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Lets not forget the massive statue of "The Primus" but the number of toes didn't match The actual Primus.
fun fact: In the shitty end cinematic we see all the big covenant leaders from Zovaals perspective except the Primus where he looks down on Zovaal.
Long story short the Primus is probably the real big strategist he is and playing 9D chess while he has all the sigils and access to Zerith etc cant be arsed to even type this
Man the way they try to say no this is the story is like a politician saying they didn't do the thing they just did.
I still think we might still have a reason to be suspicious of the Primus. WoWHead put out an article speculating this idea. Why the swap. Why Zovaal doesn’t fit how he is described.
Huh, ya the Primus was definitely supposed to be The Jailer, hence domination magic. Why did they flip all of this around? Zovaal in his battle armor would have been better in Maldraxxus. It does make sense, in you look at Zovaal as a pokemon, and watch him evolve from the runecarver model to the bulky shirtless model to his battle armor model, it just makes sense that way. Also remember early on, when we all were guessing who the runecarver was and we were counting fingers….
It would have been actually interesting if the true bad guy was the Primus and we learn why Zovaal and Sylvanas are doing some sus shit and that they are not just crazy but there's a good purpose to it
I just imagine a world where we didn't go the maw and the Jailer was talked about in hushed tones this expansion and next expansion was Wow: The Maw of Damnation or something like that. Because the shadowlands is literally the afterlife of wow, there is so much we could've done here. Maldraxxus could've been the new PVP zone beyond just it's lore, Revendreth could've been our chance to interact with old villains for lore or refights, Bastion could've taken us literally anywhere while picking up the newly dead (imagine seeing the dragon isles for the first time because a dragon died there, Draenei on some distant star (which Velen be interested to find out about), or even just another world that has Elune as a god), and finally Ardenweald could've been about the Drust and the Devourers with lore on Elune, the Earthmother, and the Emerald Dream sprinkled in.
Some say they the Jailer was badly understood because they were only given one expansion to build the character. Beyond comparing them to other characters only given one expansion we have to ask why didn't they just give him more expansion then? Have us learn about him while we explore the Shadowlands. Have it be a big deal that the Maw is inescapable (not it's inescapable but everyone can come and go from is as they please after 10% story progress). Give us time to learn and care about the Shadowlands and why the Jailer is so dangerous before we ever set eyes on him.
Seriously, Blizz has so many spoilers and leaks, you'd think by now they know how prevent that and bloody protect their property! But no, the PTR is still a thing, datamining is still a thing, and that picture that Pyro showed around… if it hadnt been him, it would've been someone else. And if Blizz doesnt bother to check if people in their meetings use f***ing phones and take pictures… excuse me but than they should consider an overhaul of their security procedures.
Soo the true jailor is actually the primus. He dominated zovaal to act like the jailor for us to defeat, and for him to get away clean?
They should've stuck to their original plan if the Primus was intended to be the true villain of the expansion, or at the very least flesh out the Zovaal to make him an actual character rather than the walking meme who walked in, said some generic shit about doom, domination, or fools, and then fucked off that he is.
I was convinced that the runecarver and zovaal were all the same guy for months. Everything just makes sense visually. When I first started leveling a Maldraxxus character I had a theory that the Primus was missing because Denathrius had pulled an Onyxia and split the Primus into the rune carver and zovaal, with zovaal basically be the ambitious general personality and the rune carver being the meek contemplative personality. But the Primus learned of Denathrius’ plan and so ripped out his own memories, Harry Potter style, and hid them across the Shadowlands, with the belief that the Mawwalker of legend would find the memories and give them to the Rune carver (or at the very least give them to someone in Oriobos to piece the puzzle together). Without the memories, Zovaal and Denathrius were forced to go to plan B and do everything they did in the Shadowlands to gain access to the first ones macguffin room to remake reality. In my head, Zovaal and Denathrius would be on the cusp of victory but the.on Denathrius, being a dread lord king, betrays Zovaal and absorbs his power thus becoming the end boss of the last raid.
Bruh why do all the wow content creators lose their hair? Even Barney is balding.
Well anyone who went with maldraxxus knows that blizz messed up. I mean the statue of the primus looks like the rune carver, not old man with horns.
I can’t wait for the ex-Blizzard dev tell-all about Shadowlands in like 3 years
This was the biggest fuck up in the story ever! Its like they had several different people telling a story that all could not decide what story to tell so the end result was just a jumbled mess that makes no since.
Plot twist, zoval is the primus. And that will be how blizz brings back zoval and actual makes him be a true big bad in the future.
So we have new worst expansion worse thenwarlord
I like how this was anticipated to be the best expansion yet and it ended up being one of the worst lol
Never forget: WoW's greatest mastermind supervillain died and his last spoken word was "cum"
I wonder if they had the story be the Jailer is chained up in the Maw like we see in the promo material, and then part way through the expansion we get tricked into freeing him, but then the creative team realized that's the same story they just told with N'zoth and so quickly rewrote it to have him be the previous Arbitor and added the whole thing with the sigils.
World of Amalor … FUCK this shit.
Just NOW getting around to this? c'mon m8, figgered this out lit. years ago
MAYBE ZOVAAL AND EVERYONE ELSE HAVE BEE BRAINWASHED WITH DOMINATION MAGIC,AND PRIMUS IS ACTUALLY STILL THE JAILER AND ZOVAAL IS THE PRIMUS ???!!!
Regardless if they were supposed to have swapped places, the story would be still dogshit because of the First Ones who are replacement for Titans for no reason, they literally have the same function as them.
One thing I always found interesting was the titles vs names of the Eternal Ones. We know a few things. Zovaal has had both The Jailer and the Arbiter mantles. And the Archon also has a name, Kyrestia. And we know the Sire's name is Denathrius. I think it is safe to assume that the Primus and Winter Queen also have their own names. I have a strong feeling that we weren't given the Winter Queen's name because it might've ruined her connection to Elune. My theory about this leak is that the Primus's name also would've given away the switch.
I want to point out too that the whole name vs title thing is not unique to the Eternal Ones. Characters in-game do refer to Eonar as the Life-Binder and Aman'thul as the Highfather.
They didn't know what the fuck they were doing. If they reached out to like 10-15 major content creators on Youtube/Streaming platforms they would have gotten the playerbase average response.
Pyromancer broke the cycle. LOL
The amount of fingers even change for the Runecarver lol
it's just a failure that's what it's intended to be.
Warcraft is like a condom that already been used.
My cynical guess? They hastily revamped the Jailer after the concept got leaked.
That is so strange because I just had this exact thought yesterday
They are playing the Ff14 inn music, yes? Or am I losing my mind???
The definition of BAD writing ✍️ is when you have to TELL your audience instead of SHOWING them . If you don’t understand that statement , your bad at creative writing ✍️. Blizzard writers are exceptionally bad at creative writing ✍️ and writing in general . Not my opinion the work speaks for itself.
The quest with the guy in red ridge and you defended his home I LOVED, that was genius , I thought it was a sign of things to come , how wrong and disappointed 😔 I was
Here's a question. Why is he the Jailor? Isn't he in jail? Shouldn't he be the Jailed? The fact that he turned the maw into his personal factory for metal goblins wasn't part of the plan. He was supposed to be chained up in there with everything else. He isn't keeping people in there, he wasn't supposed to get out.
maybe somebody wrote that already but did nobody notice the connection in the wording with "first ones" and "primus"="The first one"?
So I guess originally it was planed to have the Primus with the trailermodel as "the first (or mightiest) of the first ones" as the big baddy, who went bad because of some reason and was jailed by the other first ones in the maw with the eternals/pantheon of death as his jailers to keep him in check.
I can remember that in the first presentation of SL blizz said something like the Jailer is at the highest powerlevel ever established. So he must be something like an first one that were newly established as most powerful beings in SL. The jailer we got in game is more like Titan power level or without his animapowerboost like the rest of the pantheon of death who are also like titan powerlevel.
I also guess someone at blizz screwed up the wording with "jailer" and "jailed one".
Even if my theory is wrong, the whole Maldraxxus is an ally thing seemed odd to me. Nevertheless the scourge was created there, which nearly wiped azeroth. Also they stitch corpes together to create abominations. xD