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World of Warcraft (WoW) Patch 9.2 Shadowlands Eternity’s End healer discussion video. This video looks at all healer tier set bonuses, double legendary power combinations and historic data to determine what is required to be META. This video looks at 9.1.5 patch data in order to see how it might change in 9.2 when approaching raids and mythic plus.
Disclaimer: Anything can change before Patch 9.2 release!
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I look at (Restoration Druid | Holy Paladin | Mistweaver Monk | Restoration Shaman | Holy Priest & Discipline Priest) in Shadowlands Patch 9.2!
00:00 Intro
00:36 Shift from Healing into DPS
02:52 Healer Raid Data
08:05 Healer Mythic Plus Data
12:50 Does Meta Matter?
16:25 Summary
External Sources
Sanctum of Domination Healer Raid Statistics: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/28#dataset=75&metric=hps
Healer Mythic Plus Statistics: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-sl-2/all/world/leaderboards-strict#role=healer:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=25:maxMythicLevel=99
Mythic+ Season Rating Cutoffs: https://raider.io/mythic-plus/cutoffs/season-sl-2/us
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What makes HEALERS Meta. Damage
Honestly, they should just halv the healing all classes do, and damage they receive by about 1/3. That way healers would actually have to focus on healing.
Quick flash concentration comment. I love flash concentration. It should totes be a talent
Wouldnt increasing mana cost of abilities or decrease mana pool, make people more careful how much they dps?
Wouldn’t be better to have support healers rather then dps need ? I can understand benthy pally but some pugs just aren’t ready to heal themselves when pally drops ashen cus that pally isn’t going to throw you a heal over doing dps
Perfect timing, right before 2x legos come xD
I don´t know what you want to say with that video but besides a very very view people every healer besides Shaman and Paladin are booming cringelords. I´ve made a lot of exp in lower and higher keys and I am sick of low dps druids afk healing holy priests and wrong utility using monks, the only way to get a good healer is to wait for a meta spec.
We need more dmg time on rdruid. Maybe a boost on mastery and less hot to let us more time in cat form. And more cat form dps.
I don’t get why they leave certain classes untouched the entire expansion. I feel to them the class is in a good spot. My poor resto Druid gets declined for everything even fully geared cause people don’t want druids…
Meanwhile the paladin and monks gets invited to everything even if they have lower ilvl. It’s so weird
i like all my 5 healers, top is for me pala, no mana problems. that´s so amazing xD than came my monk. the other healers i don´t play at the moment…
for disc priest i may have an idea with double legendary but im wondering does shadowflame prism work for disc ? never tested might be a good legendary mindbinder + boon ?
Staying with Druid. It’s what I know and what I love. Thankfully we haven’t really had any issues with groups in M+, and Raiding has never been an issue. The guild now just wants everyone to be happy. We’ve had MUCH better success when people aren’t “forced” to play things they don’t want. While Resto is my favorite spec, I’m a “Druid Main” at the end of the day. I’ve never had a problem flexing to Balance, Feral, or Guardian either for M+ or Raid.
Optimistic to think, there's still millions playing.
Gonna be sad to see blood set gone. It added so much passive dps for my holy priest that I wouldn't normally have. I loved going toe-to-toe with my hpal and disc priest in terms of dmg while playing a nonmeta healer. And hpriest is getting kind of scuffed with second legendaries, completely lackluster compared to other healers. Imagine your covenant making that much of a difference. Yeah, I can't. Because it doesn't even really matter for hpriest, you can roll any of them and it's all meh whatever.
Mained Restro Shaman at the start of SL and switched to Holy Pally and that's my current main. I'm similar in that even though Pally will likely be very meta, I might switch to try something new but who knows.
Yup, greetings from a frost DK DPS, who has done keystone hero on all 8 dungs, and still pushing for higher keys. play what you enjoy.
I will definitely main Kyrian Holy Paladin and NF Resto Druid. I have the highest M+ rating on those 2 (almost 1500). Divine Resonance sounds cool and the tier set has nice synergy with necrolord covenant.
As far as dps , I do not keep logs but to tell exact numbers but on druid I am doing around 1/3 of the paladin dps.
I am kinda newish to druid and HoT healing and it is kinda frustrating to having to swap back and forth to moonkin form.
I spam sunfire, moonfire and wrath mostly.
I also got a kyrian resto shammy at 1k rating and a holy priest as 850 rating and I started today practicing heroic dungeons on Venthyr Mist Monk.
But I think 9.2 will have huge time sinks and time gates in farming tier sets and double leggos, so I am not sure how far I will proceed with shammy ,priest or monk. Maybe I 'll abandon the priest
"Should Meta Impact your choice of Healer"? As someone who mains a resto druid, (raids mythic & 2150 IO), it impacts me negatively because I am not chasing the healer meta. The issue is lack of damage reduction and passive dps for my resto druid. Community perception is very impactful too; that cannot be understated. The declines for keys suck and the lack of damage reduction for raids suck. Blizzard needs to add DR to Druid Tranq, Holy Priest Salv, and MW Revival. I really like to play kirian resto druid, but it is not a easy clap like vesper totem.
I'm loving blasting as holy in keys with Sphere's Harmony already. 4k overall dps as a holy priest is just freaking hilarious to me. No one expects it. So fun! Double legendary is going to make it even more fun!
Personally I’m heading back to resto shaman, it was supposed to be my main but early on is S1 the group fell apart and I was salty towards the character so I went Hpala instead. Resto Druid was a fun challenge over 9.1.5 but the lack of spells like spirit link etc made it feel not as strong personally. I miss tranquility plus mushroom boom healing from WOD for resto Druid.
Blizzard just enabled 2X Legendary testing – what healer do you think is going to benefit the most from this? 🤔
Imo Blizzard should add debuff to every raid cooldown. So that if you got affected by Barrier for example, it won't be affecting you for next 3 minuter so that stacking certain healers wouldn't be that broken. Im not really upset seeing Disc Priest and HPally being almost necessary for every single Raid-tier since Legion, but 2 Priests + 2 Paladins looks super stupid. Also one of the most tilting thing to see for me as a mistweaver was when me and my guild, being 6/10 in CN, reached Council and I started searching for POVs. 3-5 different Damage Reduction Cooldowns + jumping looked ultra stupid. That shouldn't be the way to do the mechanics.
And also add SoloQ to M+. Community perception shouldn't be affecting actual gameplay. Even in games like LoL, where you don't have to level up, gear up and farm anything to change your main character, maining 'non-meta' or 'weaker' champion is much EASIER and LESS frustrating. The game is punishing players for refusing to play with anyone (leaving during draft-phase = -lp).
Now imagine maining Feral Druid for which you have spent dozens of hours to gear up and being never invited anywhere because 'iT'S nOt MEtaaaa1!1!!'. But WoW is holding on to that 'social' aspect that actually makes you see 'declined' instead of having fun playing the actual game.
After such changes I would probably become Lifetime Mistweaver main since I enjoy pretty much every aspect of its gameplay. But for 9.2 I'll probably main Disc Priest for which I swapped during that patch. For now it's second most fun healer for me and feels WAY more useful for my guildies in Raids.
Great video mate. I got KsM on holy priest but then got really disillusioned with declines as I tried to push higher. Rolled RS and now doing 20’s.
I think necro hpala is gonna be insane with the necro leggo boosting our vanq hammer, and I think the hammer of wrath leggo will be the second to go with because combine that with our tier set bonus we will be inside wings all day! Tons of dmg and fat heals from the damn near perma wings procs.
"You are Healer? You Heal? What is Healing, does it kill the boss? Do DPS you doughnut!"
I honestly hate the DPS–Healer Meta. It’s finde that healers are supposed to dps in downtimes but their dps should not be the determining factor for the Meta. It will also dictate what legendarys you’ll play in high keys, and it will become a soft requirement to go for the highest dps combo.
Also it is true that you can clear high keys on other classes then shaman or paladin, but there is no real point to bring something else. You can clear high keys in the most off meta comb there is, but by playing Guardian, Holy Pally, Frost Mage, WW and Sub, you’ll have a much easier time by numbers alone.
and there comes the holy priest, not top HPS, not DR, worst dmg, something else to mention? thx blizzard for making hpriest the worst healer atm
So insightful aobut the meta and the amount of players that are like in the top 10% . I play casually and im in the top 10%. mind boggoling
I cannot see mythic plus Resto Shaman going live (or staying how it is live) with Vesper AND EQ Earth Ele lego damage. They absolutely be able to get to 9k dps from overall next tier with double legos.