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Frost DK Rework is finally here! This has been long overdue and with the latest build of the War Within alpha we got to test both the spec talents and the frost dk hero talents. Needless to say, there is very much to be excited about here!
War within frost dk is going to have to choose between rider of the apocalypse or the much anticipated deathbringer frost dk and let me tell you, the gameplay is freaking amazing. We finally got frostscythe redesigned, got buffs to auto attack damage and a big buff to breath of sindragosa. A lot to cover here, so let’s dive in!
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glacial advance needs to go, obliterate cleave needs to be baked into pillar, breath should be available for both 2h and 1h. otherwise dk still sux
Much better than the Unholy one. Amazing they are actually incorporating more of the FROST stuff into FROST DK finally. I started main'ing frost DK in BFA because of that dual wield machine gun build or whatever, this looks to piggy back on that with more frost strike / scythe. But maybe I missed the part where they get rid of button bloat openers, seems like that literally just added more? DnD NEEDS TO BE A GOD DAMN AURA ALREADY dare i say to even have 3 aura's (blood is life draining – unholy is some disease amping plague or something – frost could keep the cleave, maybe reduce vision to maybe help out your casters. Let breath die, I ain't mad about it. lol
Coming back to WoW after almost 10yrs I missed my frost DK but I hate how they played in Dragon flight hopefully I find something I like this expansion.
I know some people like it but I hate the Bias mini game. I am going to be so freaking disappointed if BoS continues to outclass other builds for frost DK.
Do we know how Reaper’s Mark is performing with racials like Entropic Embrace and Zandalari+Bwonsamdi?
As much as i would love to pick up frost as main spec for my Dk i still feel there are quite a bit of QoL changes that could be made. BoS is pretty much a dead/wasted talent imo and should have been done away with. Im glad to see some new changes in the talent trees however, its a good start at improving the spec. The main issue for Dk in general would be DnD though, at least make it to where it can move with us instead of the 4's cleaving strikes buff after leaving DnD. Overall great video as always dude, just like how ill always play unholy!
Stupid idea, Just make BoS the dk/chilly version of wake of ashes. Pop it for some burst and have it refill your runes and obliterate away!😂
MAKE CHILL STREAK GREAT!
I think a cool idea would be to have Breath of Sindragosa be a toggle abiltiy with no cooldown and take down the damage. 2 minutes is way too long to synergize with other buffs and cd's. As a frost DK main since WOTLK i like the idea of the 2 playstyles but they need to change also in my opinion the KM to Frost Strike and not Obliteration. The spender ability needs to the strong point and not the filler.
Some nice changes but… Is this it? Not a rework, this is a bandage to a broken specc.
Who came up with, lets do a capstone based on AUTO-ATTACKS?? Seems very boring.
We still have the issue of not getting KM proccs, you don't do any damage.
Please bring back the base damage to oblitirate without KM procc. Please.
Because this feels like a lot of RNG is involved. Either stars align and you deal great dps, or you hit like a noddle.
You can't really say that "no dk wants to dw with obliterate". There are quite a lot of current oblit players that do enjoy dw, but are shoehorned into 2h (with some enjoying 2h more and some not). Looking back, the biggest reason talent 2e icecap was mostly not played (and dw oblit in SL and talent 3e in DF) was not because of the "fun factor" but largely due to lack of competitive dps. If these TWW talent changes enable dw oblit to become competitive with 2h oblit and dw BoS, then I predict that oblit players will be split somewhere between 70/30 and 60/40 between 2h/dw.
I hope Soul Reaper gets some kind of spec flavour for each spec, its a very underwhelming button to press.
I think that Breath is what makes this spec unique, and I hope it will be improved
Imagine if GM hunter dark ranger was your main and you've seen almost every class and then you see what they planned for you… Nothing says ephue to the most played class (hunter) like the love they spent on everyone except the hunter.
Class looks fun
Nothing odd that some Talents are dead when you want to spec into Breath of Stupidgosa.
Those talents are meant for fun builds that do not take BoS.
I really wonder how the two new middle capstone talents and their preceding ones work for 2h obliteration as they definitely favor dual wield.
I really hope they make it able to dual wield or two hand with two distinct choices and not be forced to do one the entire time. Each playstyle within 5-10% of each other
So we’re still using Death and Decay to AoE….
Why. Seriously.
Playing death knight for this long I'm basically dead inside, so I'll wait to see just how much damage DKs do exactly, since balancing this complexity is something no one on this earth could do.
For me it feels almost the same. The problems are still there. Pilar of frost is still BORING. kinda disappointing tbh.
I am hyped to use DW Oblit
Been playing frost DK for few years now , i kinda really know this class and specc but still getting owned by UH DK's , even tried to to Unholy but this specc is kinda not for me since most of Your dmg is from Your pets , really happy about Frost DK in TWW , i hope it is gonna be good finally.
The problem with frost DK is that by the time you pop pillar of frost then Chill Streak, abomination limb, remorseless winter and then death and decay for cleave and then howling blast for a killing machine proc you have only 4-5 seconds of pillar of frost left and it feels super bad. Switching talents around only fixes half of the specs issues. Also i wish they would scrap runes. Its dated and it sucks. BUT i am glad its getting some attention because i have always loved the spec but its been left behind for a long time.
Hey outlaw rogue video coming?
Unless 2H Obli is good I won't play it TBH. The other specs and playstyles aren't my cup of tea.
does this actually count as a rework?
I'm so sick of BoS..i just want to 2h oblit
meh
Remove death and decaaayyy
You’re telling me one of the hero specs grants a corpse explosion?! New main. Locked in
Inst there any rework for Blood so far? i started playing Frost DK and now am surely coming back to it and play both specs (Frost and Blood), man i can almost see the team getting all this cool ideas, using old stuff from Legion and covenant stuff that worked out, reading the feedback and putting it all together with so much passion and love, so much effort well done… Same for palas, mages and looks like also for chaman
And then there is Jorge, being drunk and half a sleep as the only guy working on the hunter.