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Mcconnell returns after Asmongold finds out a Twitter thread revealing a secret forum for theorycrafters to talk to WoW devs. Allegedly the Blizzard developers insulted, belittled and gaslit members of said forum when recommending changes. This doesn’t look good for the now delayed Shadowlands release and the class balance of the upcoming expansion…
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Blizzard is not listening to my feedback anymore and this makes me sad, also i don't like this person replying to me who i have never met or know their motives, but they disagree with me and i totally better than them, so here is a twitter post for publicity.
I spent 4 days writing a dissertation on how to fix "insert issue" and you dont like my idea -triggered. Also Blizz doesnt want to hear your feedback .. they want to hear their feedback in your voice.
Overall the most fun I have in the game is when I come up to a new encounter and I can think about all of the different tools I and my raid team has to deal with the problems it raises. I can think about all of the different systems out there all the talents gear essences or whatever I have at my disposal and pick which ones I want to bring in and sometimes the answer I find is a lot different than the norm. That is what makes world of warcraft enjoyable for me. so seeing all of these "meaningful choice" bullshit is really pissing me off.
"Once a class reaches a peak of "Fun" you should stop changing it.
" Totally agree. I could play Legion Shadow Priest forever!
To see shadow now makes me wanna cry, its so boring to play.
"This is the best it's going to be" …YEP can't wait for people to see THE REAL shadow rework for what it really is- They neglected the spec FOR TWO YEARS; ANY pile of crap would look good in comparison – but just wait for BFA systems to go away; I played BOTH betas and Shadowlands beta is THE SAME SHITSHOW as BFA – Shadowlands is BFA 2.0 any day of the week. And Shadow? It's great because they fixed a neglected spec; but it was rushed- cheap and hollow and it will wear off for most people in a few tiers- especially when essences go away
Ok I just realized Asmongold looks like Doyle from Slingblade.
HERE'S THE THING ASMON… I WENT TO A JEWISH FRIEND'S BIRTHDAY PARTY MY WIFE AND I WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WEREN'T JEWISH… HALF OF THE PEOPLE THERE WERE GAME DEVS… AFTER THEY SAID WHAT THEY DID I TOLD THEM I'M INTO GAME TOO…. THEY SAID OH SO WHAT DO YOU PROGRAM I SAID OH NO I JUST PLAY GAMES.. I ASKED WHAT GAMES DO YOU PLAY THEY LITERALLY SAID THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED A GAME EVER… AND THEN THEY LITERALLY ACTED LIKE I WAS COMPLETELY DUMB FOR HAVING PLAYED THE GAME AND MADE COMMENTS LEADING ME TO BELIEVE IT'S THEY THINK IT'S A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME…. TRUST ME THEY DON'T GIVE A SH.T ABOUT YOU OR ME DEV'S LITERALLY LOOK AT IT LIKE A JOB AND CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR CONVENIENCE UNLESS IT MAKES THEM MONEY WAKE UP!
DEVS LOOK DOWN ON GAMERS BCZ THEY THINK YOU ARE STUPID. THEY CREATE IT TO MAKE MONEY BUT KNOW THAT IT IS A FRUITLESS PURSUIT THEREFOR WHY WOULD THEY LISTEN TO SUCH A PERSON
"it feels like they just make changes to justify their jobs" 2020 Mconell , damn this was so fkin deep
I just want Burning Crusade 🙁
mush mouth
the height of the forum was during MoP and WoD…….. what good came out of those xpacs again?
i swear your voice is coming out of your forehead by the amount your eyebrows move when you talk
All skills should have the same dmg i think…… so everyone can play how he wants. Its always the same….Diablo, WoW….etc….If you wanne be the best, you must open google and look for the right path. Thats fcking shit, because if in the endgame only 1 skill matters. And every one should play the same to be the best……whats the matter??? Why should I play my self then? If there over hundrets and thousends of people who play exactly the same build?!!
Long story short: Why should i play a build, what allready exists on thousend of other accounts? I wanna be different. I wanna play how i want and wanna be the best……not play a build what allready exists. Thats stupid. Its like a movie. Why should i play or do a thing, whats allready been done?
chat goes "5head" when anything above small talk conversation level is spoken
Hi Guys!
As you read the blue posts around 15 min in from what was in the post it seems the DEVs feel it's a waste of time to go over inputs from the community, this may be that the devs were like hey man lets do some cool shit and the community peeps were like nah man, I like free loot so make them shitz ez Son and the Devs were like, don't you want a challenge? the the community was like hell nawz we just want to roll high and phat lootz plus PvP. You'd feel like you were wasting your time too. Look at all the extra z's I mean that's a butt load.
Well. I'm glad I got to experience WOW from pre-tbc to end-game WotLK and quit for the first time a couple of weeks after Cata launch as my mindset wasn't 100% on the raid progression at the time. Came back for MoP, because friend's guild needed a hunter for some boss at the orgrimmar raid or something. Returned and did all that and I arguably had better time in my friend's guild than in my time at an EU top-10 guild during WotLK and early Cata. Anyway. I quit week into WoD launch as I had my fill of WoW as I had gotten everything I wanted from MoP so I wasn't really eager to do it all over again on a new expansion. I suppose it is good to hear that atleast I got to experience WoW at it's "best". Played a month in Classic, but I'm too old now to enjoy it the way I did back in the day 😀 I might be willing to give WoW another chance if there was a way to enjoy the end game content at my own pace and not having to worry about the work that goes into raiding and being a member of a guild (like playing on a schedule…). Been there done that.
Shadowlands is a bigger mess than our nations fraudulent voting fraud going on right now
I don’t understand. If the players say something is bad and they have statistical evidence that it’s bad, then why not do something about it?
people hated ghostcrawler? everyone i knew loved him. he was snarky and funny, but would always give you accurate answers or info.
Twitch chat can be such a circus sometimes…
Blizzard just need to stop trying to fix the broken and start from scratch. Stop thinking why the game is bad and start to see why it was good at some point. And why classic is so popular despite existance of seemengly better retail.
U said in the other video that only 30 year olds play classic. Arent u 30 years old too? And do u rather play with 12 year olds?
Ta Magdalena to jakaś Polka?
TLDR: Don't work for game developers for free.
The obvious objection would be, "What about modders?" Well then you are working for the community and not the developers even though the developers benefit.
Blizzard goals is to make money not make a game that people have fun playing!
Thank god this company lost the rights to dota 2, they would have destroyed the game with them being the isolated blood sucking downtalking company they are.
Is it even real, some whatever forum, it's like like we can see HQ members under truth detector which still won't be a 100% chance to know, and how low is this one.
I feel like reading posts is useless, people who don't have logical-mathematical talent, let alone gamedesign experience, will only post at zero or negative value, trying to get their beloved class buffed subconsciously or on purpose and not seeing that it will just make the game even worse. Tbh, I don't know what's going on in Blizzard and all game design, are Blizzard expecting some powerful opponent to appear and yoink their all new ideas while adding own awesome ones and dethrone them, and why noone is not dethroning them and why can't people make better games when it's kinda easy to understand how to, already. Definitely some mindgames with business, I don't believe a company is just runing game and making Pepega obvious outcome experiments.
this is very much a similar situation to what happened with the Warframe Devs during 2019 and their "partner programme"
You may not like MOBAs but that doesn't mean they suck. I don't like RTS games. I played WH40K: Dawn of War, it was okay for couple of hours. I played Warcraft 3 with DLC and it was cool but mostly for the story, the gameplay was just m'kay for me. And Blizzard's Hots is actually more fun than other mobas.
Im with McCool that classes should be finished and fun without extra systems in place, and i think the missing piece that makes asmon feel like it would be boring is raid sets. That was always the exciting next step in character progression every new raid tier because it added something that would shift your playstyle enough for it to feel fresh again from tier to tier. All these new systems are trying to be replacements for that while also trying to provide build diversity which leads to these messy class designs that dont feel finished or cohesive. They literally tried to reinvent the wheel and somehow made the wheels square, sure with enough brute force they’ll turn but it doesnt mean its going to feel like a nice smooth ride.
I miss the days where a new expansion meant new dungeon, raid and quest content as well as raid tier sets to work towards. Where balancing in a class was geared around trying to make multiple talent choices viable. Simplicity is definitely a form of elegance in game design and they seem to have lost sight of that.
If it wasn’t a subscription based game, for literally 15 years now, people wouldn’t give a shit about what developers were doing… look at fortnite, and others alike, (using fortnite due to popularity in its prime), the game was absolute dog shit with literally no “real changes” except cosmetic and blew everything else out of the water… I can’t tell you the last “game” I played that I had to pay a subscription to play it, I emphasize game because I get ps4 and Xbox have to have subscriptions but not for a singular game.. WOW appealed to so many for so long because you paid to play yes, but, you also felt like they listened to you and respected gamers inputs, not corporate inputs, because you are having to pay to play the game. I think they should do away with the subscription personally but I’m not working for blizz so idk how much of a hit that would be… but at this point, they are not pulling in what they are used to and it shows
A forum where logic occurs. Better kill it.