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So with all the crazy alpha news one of the most exciting things so far are 2 new races we had just discovered that no one really saw coming. One are actual new light undead models that seem to be related to Arathi and it is a similar undead mechanism as Calia Menethil.
Even more interestingly a brand new race was discovered known as the Harronir that really seem to be a setup for a new allied race with how much customization that had gotten as well as other hints.
These are night elven ancestors the dark trolls, very likely related to Elun’Ahir the first world tree that seems to actually be in Khaz’algar and interestingly enough they might even be vampiric as well a seeing that old god blood is flowing through their zone. So what are these 2 new races, let’s get into it because there is a ton of datamined info?
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Yay… more trolls
I want a platypus or turtle race to play as.
It's possible the Lightforged Undead are the resurrected Scarlet Crusade fanatics. I could see this happening as they are entirely enthralled to the Light, but also didn't mind having some Undead on their side. Such as the Bishop you fight in the Monastery.
Nobody is asking for these so just give them to the Alliance, like the lizzard people and the dwarfs these dont fit into the Horde faction.
i saw a theroy that harronir could be related to quilboar to as they have porcupine quill customization options
They are not vampire trolls I’m almost certain they are the missing link from trolls to night elves as elves came from the dark trolls. They might be a sect that stayed behind.
I almost can't bear to have hope… I want the Harronir to be playable so bad!!! Idk, something – a lot of somethings – just click with me about them. Don't let me down Blizz 🙏🙏🙏
Sin'dorei: "This land belongs to the elves!"
Amani: "This land belong to tha trolls!"
Dark Troll-Elf ancestor: "See… they are actually the same."
peace between Silvermoon and Zul'Aman
As soon as beta launches. I will be focusing on stuff that matters to me and others who are as much wanting to know.
So Undeadadins confirmed?
those light undead look pretty menacing. my paladin is going to want to smash em good.
They look more like Elvish Trolls…..kinda like they are the missing link between the two
Those characters you describe as vampiric look like an in-between stage of the trolls developing into night elves. If they spend a major part of their development underground would answer some questions and explain why night elves have purple skin and prefer the night and shadows.
If horde can be dwarfs we better be able to be light undead or what ever.
I think the humanoid nerubians are more interesting as a playable race.
I WANT TO BE A NERUBIAN 😡
Ogre works too
Light undead joins the horde and that makes sense because of Calia Menethil is in the the horde and plus they don’t fit in the Alliance in terms of appearance… and the other race just looks to evil and barbarian 😂
I think the Arathi that we'll meet in the War Within are not, Thoradin's direct descendants but the descendants of Arathi Humans and Quel’Thalas High Elves coupling and intermarrying after the Troll Wars, which was a way to preserve the Arathi bloodline through their Half-Elf offspring due to the longevity of elves.
i wouldn’t be surprised of they were for midnight
I don't think the New looking Elves are Vampires. They look more like Dark Trolls between a Troll and a Night Elf than actual vampire.
Light undead/paladins have supporting lore since day 1, but even more so since Calia and BfA, however, porcupine-vampire-troll-elves?! WTF is Blizz thinking?! Why not just give players one of the playable races they’ve been asking for for almost 20 years?!
If they are going to be allied races, bet you the ones with claw feet will be horde, and the toe ones will be alliance lol.
Calia is unrotted because she was resurrected so close to her death. Body had no time to rot. The rest of us (forsaken) got brought back after being dead a while longer. But I guess the Light undead will have the same (body) options as normal forsaken since it's probably easier to do that (include the Chinese body options) than to split them up. I'd certainly hope so lol.
Think someone, somewhere at ActiBlizz is looking at statistics on 'most played races' and using that….
(And probably discounting 'human' since those are boring and 'problematic' nowadays lol)
Harronir for the alcance and sanlayn for the horde but with model more vampiric
I don't think those "light undead" will be an allied race but i do think they could be a cool part of the story. Judging by their looks im speculating they could be the result of the Arathi's botched attempts to infuse themselves with the Light like the Lightforged.
light undead is so dumb
Why does everyone call them trolls or dark elves, they have quills and tusks, wow literally has a race like this, it's called Quillboars, they're a humanoid race, and if the Jinyu can come from Murlocs why do people believe that this new race can't come from Quilboars. Lol
Personally I think it would be good if the light undead looked a bit more different from regular undead. Less zombified rotting flesh, maybe something more along the lines of Ethereals or Lightforged. Like obviously they're still undead, but I just feel they should look kind of sanctified or purified, like the rot has stopped and they can stand up straight again. Even if the Light is bad enough to use undead puppets like the Scourge, I think at the very least it has a better sense of style and hygiene, you know what I'm saying?
Considering all the Quills on their body, I came to the conclusion that these are not related to Night Elves or Trolls. By the features and possible exposure to Titan magic & Azeroth world soul. There is a strong possibility that these harronir are actually evolved Quillboars.
Looking at evidence in Warcraft history any race exposed to order magic tend to evolve more human like depending on the amount of magic they are exposed to. The original Dragon Aspects for example in their visage form took the appearance of either elves or human. When looking at the dark trolls they were exposed to the well of eternity that had both order & Azeroth's natural magic. So trolls with order magic ended up looking like Elves we know today.
The Jinyu, Pandaren & Hozen are another example of order magic at work considering the Vale of Eternal Blossom was a facility by Keeper Freya. However in their case they evolved from animals or really primitive humanoid creatures (The Jinyu from Murlocs). My theory is these 3 races from Pandaria were individually exposed to different levels of order magic hence their different levels of intelligence and wisdom.
The Titan Forged however is more interesting. Because they were task with monitoring and protecting Azeroth, They were exposed with both Order Magic from the Titans and Azeroth's natural magic. When the Old gods unleased the curse of flesh its possible that due to their existing order and Azeroth's magic they were able to maintain their original forms in some way after becoming flesh. The vrykul children evolving into humans my theory is Azeroth played a hand in it so that these children of the vrykul wouldn't fall prey to further corruption from the old gods.
The new region in War Within is directly under Kalimdor, so it is not impossible that a tribe of Quillboars migrated further south and went underground. Even today if we go to any Quillboar territories they live usually in the underground cave systems. They are also seen practicing nature magic as both Druids and Shamans, so the nature armour the Harronir are wearing makes sense. My theory is the Harronir are an evolved race of Quillboars who were heavily exposed to order magic from the Earthen Machines & Azeroth's nature magic from living in Hallow Fall and maybe also the magic from the light could have also physically changed them into a more elvish form. Why I think the light also could have affected them? is because the Arathi humans all have pointed ears. However you can also debate that the Arathi Humans are descendants of both human and elves considering past alliances during the troll wars.
There is still plenty of room for speculation but my theory is the Harronir are evolved Quillboars as a result of Order, Light and Azeroth's natural Magic. If people think the Harronir are primal Elf-Trolls then there is a possibility that trolls evolved from Quillboars when you consider the Tusks, long noses, Two fingered Hands, Two Toed feet and spikey hair.
Races we will never get:
Ogres
Tuskarr
Forest Trolls
Sethrak
Jinyu
Murlocs
Hozen
Quillboar
Hobgoblins
Centaur
Skeletons
Dragonspawn
Broken Draenei
Naga
Taunka
Yaungol
Mantid
Gnolls
Gorlocs
Wolvar
Drogbar
Saberon
Arakkoa
Tortollans
Dire Trolls
Thin Humans
Vrykul
And now
Light undead and vampire trolls
Just for whatever reason we cant have them. its not going to happen in retail. blizzard hates giving us more race options.
I finally want ogres or Mok'nathal (Half-ogres like Rexxar)…. and no 5th elf guy
We still haven't gotten the allied races from Pandaria and Shadowlands what makes you think any of these new races outside of factionless dwarves,or whatever we are calling them, are getting added.
I want forest trolls and ogres
I think that the light undead is not an allied race but a possible quest line for the current undead race just like the draenei with the Eradar customization quest
i just want to play a mele night elf with the zandalari troll animation and a female nightelf with a nightborn animation.
a mele humaan with a blood elf animation would be cool too.
Dumb of me to expect void elves (and blood too) to get more lore, but the new race doesn't sound that bad. Light undead have been one of those alliance long-wishes, so I hope that if they have Calia as their leader, we can get Lilian for our forsaken.
I seriously hate Nu-Blizzard.
I don't see them as trolls. They don't have the 3 toe, 3 finger thing or anything.
I would have loved playable Gnolls, Tuskarr, Ogers and Arrakoa
Heck even JInyu and Hozen.
Atleast these "Dark Trolls" look more interesting than Dwarven Barbershop skin #3 (aka Earthen)
making "the light" a thing with races and whatnot was a mistake.
making "the void" a thing with races and whatnot was a mistake.
lothar's dried blood on the floor just casually sitting there 😂.
fugley
Honestly, I find this new "light undead" design worse than Calia's. At least hers seemed to have some thought put into it: an undead that looks more "healed" and preserved due to holy magic. These new models are… just like other undead, but they emit light. Like, wow, really?
I really like the way blizzard is coming with this, there is so much potential to shake up with core warcraft lore, not that non sense shadowlands high fantasy and soft dragonflight
meh i'd rather the light forged undead look like calia instead of the normal undead with a few glow effects added. Also i think the reason you get "vampire" vibes are the tusks and the fact that the "vampires" in shadowlands were basically just grey elves
swear on my sanity if it even still exists, I would love to see "Lightborne Undead" as an allied race. I hope their race perks are wicked cool <3 Idrc what faction they're on, i just wanna play one X^D
To be honest, I do not like never ending mixing all classes, races, specs and at the end of the day you feel 0 uniqueness of the character that you play. I remember the days, when I played W2 and W3, and it was so diverse and so heroic. Every race has its own specifics, units, abilities, and this is what also made Vanilla so legendary, you need to think about the game, your way of playing, you needed to be agile based on the classes that joined your dungeon group, you built your strategy on the strengths of the classes that you had in the party. Now there is so many specs, similar spells, allied races which appeared from nowhere, almost every race has paladin or shaman.. If Metzen wants to really change the course of wow's future, I think that they should a bit more reflect their roots in the wow universe that we have all loved so much in the past.
They will mix Worgen, vampires, and elves together before giving us Ogres lmao
I think the light undead will only be a customization option for undead like the red dreanei