Palumor's 9.1 Sub Rogue guide (Shadowlands PvP)



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33 thoughts on “Palumor's 9.1 Sub Rogue guide (Shadowlands PvP)”

  1. Great Content as always: For those of us that have time for only one toon and like to play.. RBGs as well as 2s arena…maybe be able to swap to assa rogue as well.. Do you have an opinion on the best overall covenant to serve these roles?

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  2. thief's bargain+invigorating shadowdust is busted+venthyr is really strong. flaggelation on it's own keeps your burst relevant, being able to vanish every 1 minute 20 seconds gives you a lot more resets, and also reduces all your cd's by 20 seconds, making your flag available every 1min 10 secs, you can potentially blind 1 min 20 seconds if you vanish twice at the right time.

    the damage reduction on blades can be mitigated if you preblades. 5 secs is rly nothing if you think about it before setting up, not too bad at all tbh. when you're feinting or vanishing, youre not trying to damage anyways. you're stalling for a go or trying to reset.

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  3. Do you think kyrian will also be the best covanent for rbgs ? And is the burst potential a big difference between kyrian and eg night fae or venthir ?

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  4. See i wanna go kyrian, but at this point to wait 2 weeks just to be back at lvl 1 renown would hault so much. I'm just gonna stay venthyr & hope that the 15% extra vers ( just nerfed from 30 ) is actually op. If not then I guess swapping earliest would be best as then once I build that lego, I'll likely already be high rating pvp, & it wouldn't be ideal to swap again disrupting 3 weeks of pvp progression -.-

    These systems need to be looked at, we need a decently fast 1 week catchup system for cov swaps. Rogues especially since they swap us around every few months.

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  5. Great vid (and great intro), but I disagree with the crit legendary being done for having reduced duration. It's still long enough to do 1 shadowstrike and 2 evis, the only downside is to have to prepare it properly because you can't restun during it (or lose one guaranteed crit on one of the three spells). Not as easy to use but still very good.

    Try this for example (as venthyr sub with premeditation + marked for death talents) :
    – shadowblade
    – eventually duel here
    – cheap shot, to stun and debuff the armor
    – shadowdance + symbols + agi trinket, can be done all at once since there is no gcd
    – shadowstrike, it will crit thanks to symbols + should put you to 5 points
    – flagellation
    – kidney shot, 3sec stun (which is enough for 3 gcd) + 5 ticks of flagellation
    – vanish + shadowstrike, it gets the buffed damage thanks to vanish + puts you to 5 points once again instantly (2 from the strike, 2 with premed and 1 with shadowblades)
    – evi, marked for death, evi

    You get 2 shadowstrikes crits + 2 evi crits + 15 ticks of flagellation (with 10 guaranteed crits), it's enough to land a kill on most targets.

    However I agree with kyrian having great potential for burst too, I am just worried about shadow techniques procs. I think it might be a little clunky if it procs (or doesn't proc) with a bad timing. How to you intend to deal with that ? Maybe in a macro with /stopattack ?

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  6. Rolled necro in anticipation of assas being the top rogue spec and turns out it’s really not that great and sub is still better. Just don’t have the heart to regrind renown all over again 😔

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  7. sub is really strong still but dude… outlaw… i was cleaving ww/ret teams down with blade flurry, i mained it all thru bfa 8.3 when it was trash and now it has so much and feels amazing, gouge gang wya

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  8. I'm sticking to necro man! I'm strictly a rbg player, would you recommend the rotten as the leggo for sub? Pretty sure sub is still king for rbgs as far as the role of rogue in rbgs.

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  9. I can't keep swapping covenants getting real tired of doing it now. Btw how do you play against necro dk and necro rsham actually feels impossible unless we cheese the shaman with everything in opener.

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