Addons on retail are now as effective as any hacks in the other games. It gives you such a big advantage that you can't be competitive without using it. Kinda absurd concept to just 'accept' using third party software on tripple a title online game just because its been that way, when addons themselves evolved too much.
Your high as fuck if u think I'm not using voice over, details, weapon swing timer, bagnon or elvUI. I can do without weak auras which is prolly the most op shit or deadly boss mods. But I'm not gonna get rid of QoL addons
This has been a point of contention since beta. Its been proven that there is a few vocal "purist" gamers, who dont like addons, and thats fine. However, the vast majority of people having a problem with this, is because they underperform all those metrics being tracked. You can whine and moan about it all you want, but its the truth.
Sorry to say.. it's a 20 year old game. There were years of no addons when we were all new to the game in 2004. If you missed that era, too bad. It's not ever coming back, and add-ons in 2024 in WoW are not going anywhere.
Classic is like Frankenstein, 4 times now, it has been born and reborn. (Vanilla, Classic, Hardcore, SoD) The best thing we can do for WoW classic now is let it rest in peace and move on. 😅
Addons are the answer to blizzards lack of effort on the ui front, not using them cause you consider them cheating is like not using mirrors on your vehicle cause you can just turn your head around to look
The only addons that should be removed in my opinion are the addons that track dungeon and raid mechanics like DBM. I think it trivializes a lot of fights and forces blizzard to make bosses so hard that you're forced to use DBM. I think bosses particularly retail bosses wouldn't need to be so difficult if DBM wasn't a thing. They could still be difficult but simply banning the use of DBM would add a ton of difficulty without needing to artificially add more difficulty for no reason.
Did raiding once and was yelled at and kicked for not having the right packs installed. Never did it again. So a huge chunk of the gay was unplayable for me because of the social structure in the game. Horrible.
GDKP is far worse for WoW by-far. For example, notice the ridicule prices in the A.H. Thank the GDKP-ers! Secondly, the worse toxic and immature are dranw to GDKP likes flues on S**t!!!
I've seen multiple videos of you having bad takes and talking avout players should play how they want and not be forced to play how they don't want. And now you want to force the ban of add-ons? How about some consistency with your beliefs?
Wouldn't that name be the opposite of what it means to have Freedom? While I do think the idea is cool – I'd have trouble enjoying the default UI they keep reusing for Classic WoW.
lol, look how defensive all the “good” players got with that. How dare you suggest no addons. You must be a bad player to not want addons. Meanwhile they need an addon to tell them not to stand in fire.😂
Lets solve gatekeeping by gatekeeping in a different way is all I just heard.
If they want to fix this problem then they should find ways to hook players up with other players who are of similar mindset. If two people play in completely different ways and are not going to get along in any way forcing them to play together is not going to solve problems at all. If anything it will exacerbate the situation forcing the two to work together because ultimately they have different ways of playing and different objectives when going into the game.
And if there are not enough casual players or people who want to tutor to support this then there is really nothing that can reasonably be done because it will just cause division.
You don't want to use add-ons don't fucking use them. There's no gear score or io score to go by in classic. If you're not getting picked that's on you. Go get friends or get good
No. That stupid. Go watch world first kills on vanilla. They had addons. No body wants to play the game with default UI and no dmg meter and tons of QOL things
I mean people used add ons in vanilla… they aren’t new they just got more advanced and useful. Plus some addons are required for classic, like questie because people don’t fancy wandering around for an hour for 1 quest. It’ll make the boring ass leveling even more tedious and bland
People want something to measure their skill and compare it to others. Hence details. Other Addons are purely to make life easier such as gear swapping addons. Addons are here to stay.
Addons has always been around. Nothing new to see. However the log and gs hording of the community is what is keeping new players or less skilled players from progressing. Even casual guilds have and is using these metrics to pick and form rosters. I see many people struggling getting a fair shot, due to these standards. Same thing can be said about the whole class picking for rosters, where 90% of guilds just copy paste the same setup used by the best in the world, without knowing the thoughts behind it, and how to utilize it properly
Fuck you, I want my details. Can’t be having people not do shit in dungeons, raids, and PvP
Ur vids are stupid!!!!!
I only play for the damage meter nothing else. u get rid of damage meter i quit.
Lmao who would actually play this game without add-ons
If you dont parse a 95 with consumables you cant come to a standing simulator 10 man dungeon.
Addons on retail are now as effective as any hacks in the other games. It gives you such a big advantage that you can't be competitive without using it. Kinda absurd concept to just 'accept' using third party software on tripple a title online game just because its been that way, when addons themselves evolved too much.
Addons improve the game.
Ppl would stop playing without add ons lol
Just make friends and you can all troll together and i mostly pvp so i need addons
This is a terrible idea if I didn’t have questie I’d quit I ain’t spending hours looking for or trying to remember where the quests are
Your high as fuck if u think I'm not using voice over, details, weapon swing timer, bagnon or elvUI. I can do without weak auras which is prolly the most op shit or deadly boss mods. But I'm not gonna get rid of QoL addons
That be fine for those of us who know all the quests, others would struggle with out questie
“Big point of contention for a lot of players” not it’s ducking not like a few fucking neck beards
This has been a point of contention since beta. Its been proven that there is a few vocal "purist" gamers, who dont like addons, and thats fine. However, the vast majority of people having a problem with this, is because they underperform all those metrics being tracked. You can whine and moan about it all you want, but its the truth.
Sorry to say.. it's a 20 year old game. There were years of no addons when we were all new to the game in 2004. If you missed that era, too bad. It's not ever coming back, and add-ons in 2024 in WoW are not going anywhere.
Classic is like Frankenstein, 4 times now, it has been born and reborn. (Vanilla, Classic, Hardcore, SoD) The best thing we can do for WoW classic now is let it rest in peace and move on. 😅
Addons are the answer to blizzards lack of effort on the ui front, not using them cause you consider them cheating is like not using mirrors on your vehicle cause you can just turn your head around to look
Season of noobs that want participation trophies
The only addons that should be removed in my opinion are the addons that track dungeon and raid mechanics like DBM. I think it trivializes a lot of fights and forces blizzard to make bosses so hard that you're forced to use DBM. I think bosses particularly retail bosses wouldn't need to be so difficult if DBM wasn't a thing. They could still be difficult but simply banning the use of DBM would add a ton of difficulty without needing to artificially add more difficulty for no reason.
Did raiding once and was yelled at and kicked for not having the right packs installed. Never did it again. So a huge chunk of the gay was unplayable for me because of the social structure in the game. Horrible.
I have tried to avoid this channel so many times because of the bad takes and you still on my feed
GDKP is far worse for WoW by-far. For example, notice the ridicule prices in the A.H. Thank the GDKP-ers! Secondly, the worse toxic and immature are dranw to GDKP likes flues on S**t!!!
I've seen multiple videos of you having bad takes and talking avout players should play how they want and not be forced to play how they don't want. And now you want to force the ban of add-ons? How about some consistency with your beliefs?
What blizz needs to do is add the most popular add-ons as features in the game. Everyone uses Questie, stop pretending you don't
This era?😊
WE HAVE ADDONS BECAUSE BLIZZARD DOESNT ADD THE FEATURES TO THEIR GAME
Wouldn't that name be the opposite of what it means to have Freedom? While I do think the idea is cool – I'd have trouble enjoying the default UI they keep reusing for Classic WoW.
This guy is so annoying
Disagree. We used addons When classic was retail. Its fine.
People are whiny.
lol, look how defensive all the “good” players got with that. How dare you suggest no addons. You must be a bad player to not want addons. Meanwhile they need an addon to tell them not to stand in fire.😂
We had dmg meter back in vanilla.
Lets not
Phase 2 is racist against rogues
Lets solve gatekeeping by gatekeeping in a different way is all I just heard.
If they want to fix this problem then they should find ways to hook players up with other players who are of similar mindset. If two people play in completely different ways and are not going to get along in any way forcing them to play together is not going to solve problems at all. If anything it will exacerbate the situation forcing the two to work together because ultimately they have different ways of playing and different objectives when going into the game.
And if there are not enough casual players or people who want to tutor to support this then there is really nothing that can reasonably be done because it will just cause division.
You don't want to use add-ons don't fucking use them. There's no gear score or io score to go by in classic. If you're not getting picked that's on you. Go get friends or get good
Great idea!!!!!
No. That stupid. Go watch world first kills on vanilla. They had addons. No body wants to play the game with default UI and no dmg meter and tons of QOL things
Imagine being that cringe and not having add ons, kinda yikes…
Sure buddy 😂
I mean people used add ons in vanilla… they aren’t new they just got more advanced and useful. Plus some addons are required for classic, like questie because people don’t fancy wandering around for an hour for 1 quest. It’ll make the boring ass leveling even more tedious and bland
People want something to measure their skill and compare it to others. Hence details. Other Addons are purely to make life easier such as gear swapping addons. Addons are here to stay.
Dude classic is meant to be fun. Stop trying to make classic retail. Just fuck off
Addons has always been around. Nothing new to see. However the log and gs hording of the community is what is keeping new players or less skilled players from progressing. Even casual guilds have and is using these metrics to pick and form rosters. I see many people struggling getting a fair shot, due to these standards. Same thing can be said about the whole class picking for rosters, where 90% of guilds just copy paste the same setup used by the best in the world, without knowing the thoughts behind it, and how to utilize it properly
Stfu, lol I been using addons since vanilla and probably in beta