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the reason people are leaving classic wow is the community plain and simple….theres too many games out there that dont require you to deal with toxic people that require metagaming as a requirement….people are just literal pieces of shit that play the game right now and have made so many excuses for just bad community behavior that people just said fuck it, ill play 50 other games that dont canabalize their playerbase.
I don’t think classic wow is easy at all
Wow isn't wow after wrath. Cata was a meme.
All we need is fresh vanilla server untill then I'll be playing retail
Vanilla Classic was peak design, and the expansions are just retreading the mistakes that lead to retail.
SOD itself is also just taking retails design philosiphies and putting it into classic WOW, patches based around a single instance, a world gimmick of some kind, ect. What classic+ should have been is classic with new content, not classic redesigned like retail FOMO
It just lacks that MMO sandbox that classic WOW was, where items had niche uses and were desireable for it. For example remaking tier 1 for all specs wasn't a good idea, but instead making a new raid with new tier 1 sets at the same power level but also designed for other specs would be great. Having new tools to play with is fantastic, but without new content and new context its just going to lead into the same mistakes as retail.
Cause classic is brain dead easy and boring, and offers no challenge except for trying to avoid bots and the RMT gold-selling to lot-buying pipeline. It mostly showed people how much better retail is, except for the hipster classic andies who are mostly 50 years old and just too bad at the game to do heroic raids on retail. Most players knew this and didn't even touch any of the classics, as shown by the number data that was made public. The classic launch dates don't make a dent in the numbers.
playing Solocraft private server for the past month
Bored of content, too many bots, toxic community, people more interested in parsing than having fun. Having more fun playing POE, would be interested in real classic +.
0:40 been that way since TBC. Only difference in Vanilla was the step before raiding "aquire world buffs"
I tried cata as an OG that quit in cata times back in the day and im kinda having fun spamming LFG, just casually playing and tanking. The world, cities and everything else is dead tho.
Think wow is just dead
I genuinly believe mop will be huge in numbers. Theres challenge modes, pet battles, fun dungeons and raids, loads of collectables for the collectors and more. I really think mop will bring a lot of people back to classic..
I moved to vanilla private servers
Classic is not hard, is slow. Auto atack simulator. 1 spell spam. Same content non stop. Some classes literally do not work. and the true that NO ONE ever talks is…..maybe most ppl actually dont like classic, thats why population is low :/
Cata is so much better than vanilla, TBC and Wrath which were all painful as hell to play! Cata was way better than all 3 put together, the people that love those three only like it because their tiny brains can't handle having to think, I am a pvp and arena player so I suppose I have a different view. SOD was probably my worst experience with wow I have ever had and it single handidly made me almost quit completely until cata released although now 1st season of Cata is over and we are forced to do raids for pvp gear I will be quitting that also, retail just keeps getting worse so i honestly think it's time to just let this game die, I only started playing wow around 2019 and very rarely played, I started getting serious over past 2 yrs and I have no idea how boring your life can be that could play this miserable game for so many years it's just sad. The past 2 yrs trying to force myself to play the game telling myself it will get good was the biggest waste of my life and that was all it was, waiting thinking one day it will get good, then going back to classic thinking maybe it was better then but nope way worse! The way they made the gameplay was awesome with abilities and cc but now I have realized they had a great idea they just never once executed it to make a good game
I Quit cuz of cata
Blizzard refuses to address the real problems with the game like botting, goldbuying and the game getting less and less social with every xpac. Instead they decided o turn Classic+ into retail with lazy content like MC's last boss and other features. Thankfully we got a few Pservers that retained the classic feel while still expanding on vanilla content.
I want Fresh Classic WoW
SoD ain’t bad. Best to date since legion. Sod is better than legion.
For me the amount of min maxing and gatekeeping killed the game. It was no longer about an adventure and the freedom of creating your own character. You had to play x class in x way with x gear or you were playing wrong. Had great fun leveling but when i hit 60 that was the reality.
Bro stop with the click bait. The only clasic worth talking about… the only wow worth talking about it vanilla. The original, the best. When are blizzard gonna wake up? Announce fresh!
And many classic era players went to Private servers like Turtle WoW..
I quit because of PayPal warriors, gdkp and constantly being asked to sign up to discord.
Ive been playing private servers again. 🐢 Better comminity and somewhat evergreen
I spent a lot of time in P2 & P3. I haven't played P4 for a few reasons:
1). I've only joined two guilds, but they didn't work out (demoralizing)
2). P3 was not very engaging
3). PVP was terribly unbalanced. They would trial nerfs every weekend in P3, and it just broke my interest as I did well or poorly based on the trial nerfs
4). P4 my guild collapsed day 1, so I cancelled my sub and decided to enjoy my summer outside.
Too many versions and splitting their player base. Causes guild collapse and friends to vanish. Almost no one wanted CATA. Would have been better leaving WOTLK in place longer. SoD lost its shiny luster until a new phase comes out then dies again. Rampant botting, GDKP/MRT/boosting on classic era has turned a lot of people away.
That 40% are waiting for Classic+ , the rest is shit
First of all cata is not classic.
Second, they are not quitting classic. They are quitting blizzard classic. With the gdkp system and the botting. The one classic plus server has seen a boost in population averaging + 3.5 k players
I wouldnt consider classic purists to even be 'gamers'. They are just aging adults that want to relive their childhood over, and over, and over. If they just re-looped classic fresh over and over it would be enough for 90 percent of the playerbase.
For me personally, ive enjoyed classic, retail, and the spinoffs like the battle royale and mop remix.
That no changes crowd literally just operates off of a pretty much chemical dependency to reliving their youth. Like the same way our boomer parents refused to listen to our 90-00s rock and kept their 60s nostalgia.
Classic is just our version of our parents looping CCR over and over and over remembering that concert they went to when they were young.
Tbc was the start of retail. Anybody saying different is coping. U literally log in shattrah and zoom around on flying😴.
People realised Retail is better than sod and cata classic that's why, also the classic enjoyers who dont want to play retail went to era instead.
Classic wow players, just go play other games ffs. Stop riding Blizzards pp
Cata is boring all playing sod
Duh, if people quit way back on cata how will it be any different this time around. Blizz is so stupid, since 2019 that is 5yrs that they could have deblvelopes classic plus by adding new raids for vanilla, but what did they do?
Cata drop off was to be expected… that's just history repeating itself. SoD, on the other hand, just lost all of its momentum.
Had they left it alone in the first place it would have been fine, I think they lost a lot of people's faith when they added that store mount for TBC along with charging for a copy of your character to stay on classic.
That was the first mistake of many
My main issues with classic wow at lvl 60(SOD):
1) Geting old runes is complete crap and not fun
2) Its not alt friendly, lvling sucks for old content, no groups, and see #1
3) Too much to do in phase 4; my guild rushed into MC …. it was the middle of summer people were on vacation; didn't have time get reps up; dailies, too much pvp in brm, didn't have time to get their FR gear up; didn't have time to get better gear, back to running around the world for buffs…..uggg. Everone bitcheing that people aren't putting int he effort. its very very not casual friendly right now.
4) I already quit because after two weeks, its just not fun.
sexy boy i almost spit out my drink with that donald trump bit
It’s not true to say retail wow isn’t growing and hasn’t in years. It is growing and has been for the past couple of years. Retail wow is a much more stable, dynamic playerbase than classic is and it’s because retail is a much more popular game. I like classic too, but facts are facts.
Good i hope blizzard goes under.
No TBC / Wrath servers no me
Ffxiv expac and gw2 expac upcoming eso expac out for a bit alrdy. Other mmos are giving us fixes
Cata is trash, SoD is trash, people come and go from Era as they please. I for one have zero interest in Cata again or SoD since Phase 3 (2 was pretty lame as well). I play Era every once in a while but I have 8 fully BiS characters. I was loving hardcore but it’s not very busy anymore
Everyone went back to private servers
Simplified :People love turtlewow .Turtlewow knows what people want .''blizzard '' have no idea what ppl actually want . I cant enjoy enough the fall of blizzard .We should not even call them blizzard .
Great content as always, for me Blizzard should invest more in guilds. The audience of classic WoW is 30+ in their majority. We need a garrison system but guild wise. Something we can all build, trade with other guilds and raid other garrisons for pvp. For pve adding new conted without relentless gear hunting would be ideal.
Simple stuff.
Breaking the leveling up into phases while releasing new content that outshines the old turned era from a broad appeal game to a tight, railroaded and singular shared experience in SoD. SoD added all this new stuff that ironically made the game smaller in practice.
I jumped off the classic train when WoTLK Classic launched. I have been playing retail ever since. I am Thoroughly enjoying it and very excited for TWW.
When classic+ launches it'll compete head to head vs gta6online2