Why The Emperor Kept Chaos Secret



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28 thoughts on “Why The Emperor Kept Chaos Secret”

  1. My personal headcannon is that you can either completely deny the existence of Chaos… or hyper inform the population so they know making deals with it is a horrible idea. But when you have thousands of planets, well. The first is WAY easier.

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  2. How does anything Fabius said here makes sense. He admitted he uses them, therefore they exist. Whether material or not concepts even can exist. His logic should not work unless daemons are simply hurt by words and if that's the case a do grey knights just scream "you're not real" like children denying boogiemen?

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  3. I don't fully agree Emps made the right decision. Yes, you deny the chaos gods power, by bot knowing they exist, but it would've been better if he himself didnt know about chaos. He's a smart guy, I'm sure he could've found a way to erase knowledge of the chaos gods from his mind, while not sacrificing his end goal.

    Yeah, he wouldn't know why, but he's a man of resolve, so I'd imagine instinctively he'd keep doing what he planned on doing.

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  4. The problem with The Emperor's method, is that the Imperial Truth was on outright lie. Jaghatai seemed to know this was the case from the get go, along with Magnus.

    This means he would have to keep the lie going for who knows how long, as The Imperium grew. In the setting where space magic, a warp spirit, and demons exist…it would grew increasingly difficult for people not to ask questions.

    Additionally, do you know terrible the blowback would be if the truth truly came out. How many people would distrust and turn on the Emperor?

    tl;dr – The Emperor's Plan with the Imperial Truth was at best a house of cards.

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  5. Hindsight is 20/20. People love to give the Emperor crap for keeping Chaos and his great plan to steer humanity secret, but it was the safest option at the time. Keep in mind that Horus turned traitor because of his own ambition, not because he was ignorant of Chaos. He was made fully aware by Magnus that Erebus was decieving him, and knew of warp entities by that point, and still decided "if anyone should be Emperor, it should be me". Horus has no excuse.

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  6. Funny thing, there is one human faction that let his people fully aware the existence of chaos and preparing for them, and then get wipe out of existence after imperium come.

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  7. Fabius Bile, suffering from multiple imminent organ failure due to seeing a very real fragment of Slaanesh
    Slaanesh: GoDs ARe REaL!!!
    Bile 7 seconds from a literal heart attack:
    Nuh uh!!

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  8. Also, people may say "man, I'll sell my soul for(insert miniscule object here)"
    Well in the 40k, that's a soul binding contract. Imagine all the desperate, depressed and outright bored people that would 10000% have the ability to just give up their souls unknowingly…

    Me: "I'm so hungry, I would kill for a double cheeseburger"
    Korn: (duct tapes 2 axes to my hands) "say less fam"

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  9. The state of the 40k universe prior to the indomitus crusade is irrefutable proof that big E was wrong, which is made clear by Gman and the Lion both, among a whole host of other characters.

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  10. That is by far the most counter productive reason for why he did not tell them, cause from the way this was told even if he did tell them they still would have fallen to chaos so not telling them was just his way of hoping his son would just believe in him and hope they did not fall to chaos

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  11. Fabius considers daemons how a programmer considers current-age AI. Some people actually consider that these large language model AIs to have a shred of sentience. Anyone versed in programming and computers know that your AI waifu is just a fancy word predictor

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  12. Fabius rejects the Chaos Gitz because he understands that they are the accumulated sentient emotions of sapient beings. They on their own have no real existence. They are like whirlpools at sea that seek to perpetuate themselves. A fish is not water but lives in it, but a whirlpool is water that seems alive but is nothing outside of the water itself.

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