World of Warcraft Journey Part 5 Triple Harbinger Reaction – Gul'dan Illidan and Khadgar

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For this Triple Trailer Tuesday we are continuing our World of Warcraft Journey with part 5. Doing a reaction to the Harbinger series for Guldan, Illidan and Khadgar before we jump into the Legion expansion. To see our complete journey along with all of our WoW reactions check out this playlist https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzMaVaJ7UYI3luBfZUeTOgDakb2b6CumN

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50 thoughts on “World of Warcraft Journey Part 5 Triple Harbinger Reaction – Gul'dan Illidan and Khadgar”

  2. My favourite is always Kadghar, he's really cool and funny character. Always like to do dad jokes and nicknamed Dadghar.

    Ok so my breakdown.

    1:55 – just as Guldan said….none of this characters are known, but the voice calling him is supposed to be Kiljaeden.
    8:04-. Kor'vas bloodthorn (girl questions the Illidian) – one of main followers if Illidian, one of 3 major demonhunters in Illidari.
    Doomlord Azgorth – he's a legion commander in charge of planning invasions.
    12:14 – Kadghar – he's arguably strongest mage alive, student of Medive. Main role in Warcraft movie backbone of wow story. He's also In WOD cinematics.
    Medive – the Guardian of the world, strongest mage ever lived. You saw him turn into a crow In Warcraft 3 cinematics.
    (The random Dreadlord) – powerful demons known for their shape shifting and manipulation abilities.

    Ok some Backstory short as possible.
    The Guardian of trisfall.
    Origin –
    1000s of years ago there was a demon Invasion, "KirinTor" (mages organisation) made a plan to channel all powers of mages to one person to fight legion. The Chosen one is "Alodi" half elf half human boy became first guardian.

    Agewynn's Story –
    A Guardian must transfer his powers to his chosen student when he's old. Or the power will die with him. At one time it's passed to first female guardian "Agewynn". KirinTor didn't agree with a women being guardian….so Agewen decided to work alone. Agewynn defeated a magical clone of the titan "Sargeras" the creater of burning legion. His plan is to possess her but she's too strong to do it, so he hide inside her. Until..

    Birth of Medive –
    For 800 years Agewynn rules as Guardian because she use her magic to not age. KirinTor keep telling her to pass down the powers. Until one day she finally agrees to. But she will never reveils the identity of the person.
    Then she found the strongest mage alive, "Neiles Aran". She disguise as normal women and married him to make perfect child. When Child born named him "Medive". She then pass her powers to Medive, tell everything to her husband and leave him with the child. They goto live in Karazan.

    Medive's Rage –
    No one knew, Medive was merged with that demon spirit when he was in womb. This lead to split personality problem,…his father loved him so much and hide everything from outside world, His father keep the spirit surprised for years but he was killed by medive's Rage… ( In game, inside Karazan, we can find Ghost of his father, begging his son not to kill him).

    KirinTor suspect – in time Medive come out as The Guardian. when orcs made Portal to this world, it is actually Medive open the portal from this side. KirinTor suspect him and send Kadghar as a student to spy on him. Medive knew this but accept him as student.

    Death of Medive – after many events, Sargeras clone finally took over Medive and fought against Kadghar and Lothar. Kadghar Vs Medive battle of spells. Medive had upperhand and absorb Kadghar's life force, that's why he have grey hair. Lothar decapitate him after a huge battle.

    Ghost of Medive. – after Medive died, his mother try to fix her mistake by ressurecting him. She was succeeded and brought him back in spectral form.

    This ghost of Medive appears in lot of Warcraft 3 cinematics. He warn king Terenas, he appeared in Thralls dreams. And finally pass to afterlife after Archimond death in Warcraft 3.

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  4. the book out there called "illidan" goes into his past in alot more detail, also highly detailing how you trully become a demon hunter which is to eat the heart of a demon to absorb its soul. they constantly are at war with the demon within to keep control of themselves and use the power to fight other demons. one of his students almost fail in overcoming the demon after it convinces him he has become exactly what slaughtered his child thousands of years ago and he tries to tear the scales that grew on him off, almost bleeding out from self harm

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  5. no no some people can not be helped – being "nice" to them is especially bad, as one can not be nice and honest at the same time (that's why those who rebel also reject the kindness, they see it for what it truly is = something to control them with). tough love is all we need in this world, yet some will still not see the right way, no matter how you act towards them.

    The Orcish family structure is a tough one because both your father and mother is supposed to be "providing", hunting, fighting all kinds of things out there, easy to fall prey to something and so it is easy to lose one of your parents. Only the "lucky" orcs grow up with good set of morals/good mindset. Gul'dan was especially "unlucky" in that his deformity made his life within a culture of strength, among the orcs hard to begin with, now add that he became power-hungry/evil as he was growing up and you will see how they had no other choice but to cast him out. He would have just been an orc to take care of and not get anything useful back.

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  6. I've stumbled across your channel in the last couple of days, and I honestly love seeing how diverse the content is, Resident Evil, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends are all special interests of mine in particular and I have so enjoyed going through watching all this content! I love seeing the surface-level reactions and dipping your toes into all kinds of stories and watching your interest grow, there's something so wholesome about it and I'd love to do the same with my partner now, so thank you!

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  7. "This dude is awesome"
    Me: oh god they are talking about Khadgar,,,,, well atleast they (I hope) didnt have to listen to all of his bad jokes during WoD and Legion,,,,, or endure the prerelease of WoD when Khadgars quests made us the players fall to our doom when his quests made us "glitch" from our flying mounts,,,, hundred of metres above ground😣😣😣.

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  8. blizzards usually isnt that good at handling these story redcons.. but back in the first expansion (burning crusade) illidan was deemed a traitor and an enemy. the starting zone of demon hunters actually is set in the time of the burning crusade, when the players attack illidans black temple. we're then shown that those demon hunters actually have good intentions for what they do and that it's reasonable to let them join our cause in legion.

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  9. Good reaction guys! Illidan love a woman that called Tyrande, but you gonna see her in the future in the Shadowlands expansion. She is realy good character too, such as illidan with sharp personality traits and patriotism.

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  14. Now please for your next step, Battle For Azeroth, please be carefull to watch the cinematics in the correct order. Saurfang's story is the only good thing that remained of this expansion and it's a shame to see people watching it in a random order and not getting anything.
    I wish you well, until next time 🙂

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  15. man i cant wait for you to do more. legion holds some amazing cinematics….and battle for azeroth has a few too
    That said, the story is so so much more hard hitting and amazing if you know the characters and potentially the novels written about them (yep theres quite a lot of em^^)
    and there is so many fantastic characters in WoW Lore that you dont see in a single cinematic =/

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  16. i can highly recommend you reading the arthas book. Arthas, while always arrogant and a bit of a prick, was not only a paladin and worthy king, but a very noble soul willing to sacrifice everything to protect his people. The true tragedy of Arthas is that he did EVERYTHING right….and THAT is why he fell. Not tragic, not drama, not weird events, no Arthas fell, because he did everything right, instead of listening to his heart. His need to protect his people became so strong, he was willing to kill them for it

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  20. The ideea behind the Ilidari is that they hunt demons and consume a part of them(heart if im not mistaken) for extra power that s why the Ilidari woman at the start says that demonic energies course through their veins and that s why the Doom Lord tells the woman she smells more demon than hunter.They are half humanoid half demon hibrids.
    Even Ilidan himself was a fully fledged Night Elf before he consumed the Skull of Gul'Dan (a dark demonic artifact ) that basically made him the 1st hibrid (growing the demon wings and horns)

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  21. Hey Definitely Not Definitive. Love your videos. You should react to the old Mortal Kombat Armageddon Trailer. It's a great trailer and it was a fun game to play as a kid growing up. I believe you guys would really enjoy the trailer.

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  23. Illidan was the main bad guy back in the burning crusade and he comes back in the legion so they had to retcon him a bit in this expanssion. While Illidan's main thing is that sacrifice is needed to fight the demons, his main problem is that sometimes he's not giving you a choice in the matter. Sacrifice everything and join his crusade and use the demon's own power against them in the fight against the burning legion. Problems arise when demonic power is a corrupting force and dying is only one of the better outcomes should you find yourself unable to harness it properly. But he sees this as a necesity in his fight against the demons and he also sees this as being the only real way to fight them and should anyone say otherwise then they are against him.

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  25. To be fair, Gul'dan's cinematic always gives me the chills, mainly because society can be so opressive when you don't meet their standards !

    Not saying Gul'dan was right to anhilate them all..especially the old shaman, however I won't lie that I both felt horror and yet satisfaction to see the Chieftain reap what he sow ! In almost all cases nothing good comes from "abusing" someone !

    One can argue that Gul wasn't "good" to his core since the elements themselves rejected him..but after all he was put through and with so few chances for success I think the final refusal was absolutely cruel !

    Last but not least: honestly I don't know If I wouldn't take the Legion's bargain and embrace the Fel (green death magic)if I were in his exact same situation! 🙁

    Edit: Illidan has always been awesome and charismatic ;D !

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  27. Really enjoyed your reactions! You two are gold and thank you for doing that 🙂 Cant wait for you to watch Warbringers series of WoW videos and all cinematics with Sylvanas!

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  28. A bit late, but perhaps who a Guardian is, should be elaborated upon.
    Guardian is a chosen mage, meant to protect Azeroth.
    All powerful mages, surge their powers into an individual so he has the power far greater than any other.
    There were many Guardians, always one at a time, once Guardian grew old, he would transfer his power to the next one, and so the cycle continued.

    This went like this for generations, until Aegwynn became the guardian, she took the power, and used it to achieve immortality.
    She served as a guardian for hundreds of years, but became selfish in the process, other mages started to fear an individual keeping guardians power indefinitely, and began to ask her to transfer the power to another.
    After a while, Aegwynn agreed, however she chose to elect next guardian herself, instead of allowing council to choose one.
    Aegwynn chose her son – Medivh.

    However, before that occurred, when she was still a Guardian, one of foes she defeated was an Avatar of Sargeras, leader of the Burning Legion.
    Avatar fell, but pieces of Sargeras's soul, struck Aegwynn, and hid within her. Soul was insignificant, and did not pose threat to Aegwynn herself, however, once she gave birth to Medivh, soul moved into the child, and warped him since the very begining.

    Fast forward many years, Medivh is a guardian, he is fulfilling his duties well, however he is also working on another project, creating the Dark Portal. A gate which would connect Azeroth and Draenor (world of Orc's)
    Medivh created pathway for Orc's to enter Azeroth on this planet, while Gul'Dan created pathway on Draenor, both of whom, were controlled by The Burning Legion.

    Medivh started losing himself into the other soul in his body more and more, until eventually Sargeras was close to completely taking over.
    Once Medivh went mad, Khadgar struck him down, putting an end to Medivh.

    Many years later, Medivh's Echo did return to the Azeroth, clear of Fel Madness he led Orc's, Humans and Night Elf, to cooperate against the Burning Legion. (Story of Warcraft 3). Extend of Medivh's power is unknown, and he chose to let mortals take care of the world. What happened to him after the invasion is unknown, but as he said himself, future of the world resided in mortal hands, and guardian was no longer needed, and then, his goodbye was: "And now, that my task is done, I will take my place, among the legends, of the past" indicating that he is gone for good.

    As such, Echo of Medivh that was seen in the cinematic, was not the one clear of corruption, but rather just a Demon pretending to be Medivh, to trick Khadgar into becoming Legion's pawn.

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  30. Can't believe it took me this long to realize that it was sargaras that was trying to manipulate khadgar into joining the legion. Gul'Dan was the first orc warlock, illidan was the first demon hunter and khadgar is a mage. These shorts don't tell the whole story.

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  44. I've been rewatching you two's reactions to all Warcraft cinematics for the fifth time now, and I never get tired of it. It already feels so amazing watching the cinematics on their own, but your reactions make it feel even more homey and nostalgic.

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  46. There's a novel called "Illidan" that takes place during Burning Crusade and is a prelude to Legion.

    It goes into HEAVY detail regarding the Illidari, who they are, how they're made, their training, and their relationship with Illidan as a leader. If you liked that second cinematic you would absolutely love that book; Illidan's Demon Hunters are some of the most badass mfs in the Warcraft canon.

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  49. I remember unleashing a monster in Dalaran ("MY city", as Khadgar introduced it when I got there) and the only thought in my mind as it had me in its claws was "oh no Khadgar will be mad!". Man was he such and impactful character

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