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2V2 Melee PvP Tier list Season 4 Shadowlands
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Just wrong about assn. You obviously never played a rogue or one well. Any assn rogue above 1800 plays necro and surv does counter us, but we smash their healer until they trinket and they die just fine.. Afl/ Resto shammy is our hardest comp. Sub gets owned by assn, outlaws depends on healer mana usage but we win in dampening as long as our healer gets a drink.
We ownnnn fury and Dh.
I haven't seen an enh shammy above 1900 yet.
I feel like arms is better than fury against everything but hunter comps, especially against fury itself which the leaderboard is full of. Then again the ladder is full of flavor of the month fury warriors which aren't playing so good but I feel like you always have the edge on arms especially with spear of bastion
Rend and deep wounds / overpower works better against outlaw and sub. With the current state of resto sham in 2s it's lke peanut butter and jelly. You can even win against comps you shouldn't with great reflect legendary plays and banner against lets say hunters or outlaws you can just one shot resto druids in a spear if you get tranq first hand.
There's not much arms warriors but I can tell you they are something in good hands. I'm currently playing arms on 2k rating US. I played fury and saw there wasn't so many hunters queueing and swapped arms and never looked back; games started to be really easy against other warriors
I cant believe blizzard nerfed death knight abomlimp and spellwarden. Unholy is clunky with that wounds system in pvp it needs to be removed . Frost dk needs a big buff pillar needs to be 20 secondes like paladin wings . Frost dk also needs a healing reduction in there toolkit in death strike or in obilrate . We had 1 in mist of pandaria. Necrotic strike but they removed it . Since hearstop aura and necrotic aura whas removed frost is trash new pvp talents didnt do anything And it whas with trash aura what reduces the cc range . We hit like 3-4 k agianst 90 k +health pools outside of our cds
Have you seen the the outrage over Frost DKs from Flarkness lately? And the DF tree does not look much exciting either, compared to warriors or spriest. For me the spec is completely dead, because its so boring as well, not just underperforming and i never was a huge fan of that chill streak 1 shot comp with ww monk, prefered the old more tanky more sustained heavy dmg design, where you had to kite and disarm the Frost DK to stand a chance. Basicly cata, mop and WoD design. Its a clear case of: "don't fix what ain't broken"
I mean why the heck nerf DK, nerfs that hit frost dks more than unholy dks? I guess the design philosophy here is: "We rather want you not to play Frost Dks" like what happened in MoP with Demology Lock. Spellwarden was not taken anyways by unholy dks, i would take this talent only in bgs not arenas. Abo limb nerf was allright, it did indeed do too much dmg for a disruptive cd. But where is the compensation, in particular for Frost Dks? Devs dont want you to play Frost Dk, dear people!
What I find funny is everyone is saying outlaw isnt fun, but it has by far the most fun rotation and has tons of utility, I really don't think these people have tried outlaw