Choosing to main a tank for the first time has been the best thing for me. I'm constantly uncomfortable, but I'm forcing myself to take responsibility and figure out what I am doing wrong and I've had the most successful M+ season ever, I'm halfway to my portals after starting just a few weeks ago and should get it done in the next week or so.
In wow only those players are going to improve at all who wants to. There is the denial phase where they are completely comfortable with what they do at the moment and they don't look to challenge themselves. This is where these kind of players will get the most push if someone with greater knowledge of the spec on the same ilvl wastly outperforms them. Here players are getting divided and this is what's going to separate an avarage player from a highly decent player who continues to improve.
On the other note most players aren't looking into their spec or how it's played. It's a very small fraction of players who use any online resource. (Warcraft logs, Lorrgs, Archon, Murlok, Bloodmallet, mythicstats, wowhead, icyveins, youtube uploads by high ranking players observing what they do) for a well informed player these are vital when they start playing something or adapting to a newly introduced change. From experience this is pretty much only true for players already progressing Mythic raids and who were able to reach KSH fairly quick in the beginning of any season.
Yea, also good to mention that most of the player base doesn't consume any wow content besides what's in the news. So most of the things mentioned will always sound like no lifer neckbearded thing to say for them and being above avarage in a game will always be a niche thing.
very cool vid i'm new from tww and wants to tryhard things a bit, so checking my parses, trying to do better each raid runs etc etc… ( i'm playing UH DK )
it can be pretty overwhelming to really know what is the reason of not doing good parses with everyone saying boss timer is really important, or those kind of external factors that have an impact on your parses
as a new player again i'm not aware of them so i'm more blaming myself than everything else but hearing you speaking about your experiences with all of this is pretty reassuring, and made me remember that room for progression is always big, i'm pretty much in the opposite situation that u explain in your vid but its still helping for the future and to keep focus on what matters.
so thanks !
( Crawdk – Hyjal on wclogs if someone is curious or is an UH DK that wants to help me be a better parser lol )
Hey, this is a great video that a lot of players should relate to, I fully agree with you. But I'm not sure if "fully leaning in the opposite direction" is the right call, at least for me. I've long past realized I'm the issue. When I watch logs of other people, I'm not trying to diminish their success to ease my ego. When I train 10 hours a week on a dummies, I'm not doing it to be better than my pairs. I'm doing it to get better as a player. I'm well aware blaming the healer isn't going to help me improve. I guess my real issue is, even after realizing I'm the issue I don't seem to be able to improve. Maybe I just blame myself and do not put enough effort in getting better… I'm the kind of dude who used to change completely my key binds every 2 weeks just to find the perfect assignments and the easiest way to press button, because my mechanical skills, I would say are under average. I then train myself hours upon hours on dummies. I review logs during hours every week. I'm the kind of dude that can't go in a raid if I don't know every abilities and mechanics. Not going to lie at the start of a new patch, I'm quite stressed, having to learn all of this. But that motivates me, learning is fun and surpassing my fears also is. Now again we are at the end of the patch and I feel exhausted, having lost all the good will I had months ago, refuging myself on my alts, and watching more gold making videos than trying to improve. Anyways, I really think your video caters to lots of people. And I would love if you had any tips for me and players feeling like me. Keep up the good work !
I can appreciate this video because I am/was a classic andy. Never played any retail xpacs seriously. Didn't think I could handle all the mechanics/rotation in retail- all of it was daunting since the learning curve is so steep.
But learning as you've said in this video I've been able to get AOTC and 2.5k IO on arcane mage in TWW. If you're reading this- it is possible! Improve your mental and you can do it.
Some good points, but i feel like this only relevant for people raging at pugs. I’ve never really cared about people making mistakes, what annoys me is the *ssholes that ALT+ F4 in the middle of a key. That really boils my blood, especially in 10s when all I really care about is getting some return on my time investment, 5 crests and a vault slot is still better then nothing, even if you overtime by 10mins. I Honestly don’t care about taking my sub average 75% parses to 100%. I rather just not stand in shit and live the entire encounter. All the 99% bro’s taking turns blowing the raid up just to maximize their deeps is more detrimental to killing bosses then if everyone just focused on mechanic’s and parsing around 50%. You want to parse? Great are you in a top100 guild? No? Then parse on reclear.
My biggest problem I have with improving “At” wow, is getting my frame rate to a playable 60+ fps, tweaking my addons and settings is my “prep” for progress, and it’s a weekly struggle. And i’m far from the only one.
Why is parse so important to you, its a toxic thing. And sometimes you are targeted or doing mechanics or the raid is strugling. Only the performance in your current raid matter why ego drive internetsite parses.
Giving my 2 cents as I watch, somewhat new Player here, played some classic years ago but new to retail & its honestly baffling how many ppl with 2.2-2.5k rio still dont know how to play mechanics in a dungeon and then insta leave when their dying, all while using 0 defensives and 0 kicks XD I just dont get it, its just delusional
Hello, great vid. Just one thing, from my own experience class discords and wowhead guides are not always reliable source of information about your class, if you really want to minmax, just learn how to read in warcraftlogs. As a tank I always look up top 5 parses on pure ST boss and analyze their openers, buff uptimes, stats, enchants etc. Then I use my own experience and pick what is best for me currently. By doing this I'm consistently parsing in the 99-100 range, even if I'm 10 item levels behind.
And if you are not comfortable on your class as a tank, don't do this, don't int your raid group.
Honestly goated video. I have been noticing as I get more and more into this game my mental is getting shot down when I see my guildies who are a little higher ilevel than me are hit 95+ parses during our weekly heroics and it made me start to question what I’m doing wrong. We all come from another game where to get to worlds first level we had to sit infront of a dummy for hours a week to perfect our rotos, stock logs, and rewatch vods. It’s been so long since I’ve done that but after watching this I believe I have more of an incentive to do so due to the simple fact that I too have had the wrong mentality. I hope this video will get the recognition it deserves ❤
I actually have had to adopt a mindset in the opposite direction. I have a problem where I will instinctually eviscerate myself over the smallest mistakes to the point of being afraid to make them. Getting better at allowing myself to learn from mistakes instead of grilling myself for 10 minutes over slightly messing up a mechanic is making me a lot less nervous and helping me be more consistent as a player.
Wonderful analysis. I just worry that fundamentally this mindset is wasted on video games as opposed to other aspects of life far more deserving of this approach.
One of this videos that is so good inside niche (wow in this case) that should be outside niche
Never understood play to get mad instead of play to improve.
I dare you to pull 95%+ logs as a healer in a normal raid with 2/3/9 😛
Connecting bigger life lessons and philosophies with a game that I love is magical. Thank you for sharing this. ❤
Choosing to main a tank for the first time has been the best thing for me. I'm constantly uncomfortable, but I'm forcing myself to take responsibility and figure out what I am doing wrong and I've had the most successful M+ season ever, I'm halfway to my portals after starting just a few weeks ago and should get it done in the next week or so.
Great video – only question = what plater profile is that?
Pepople are people… basically.
In wow only those players are going to improve at all who wants to. There is the denial phase where they are completely comfortable with what they do at the moment and they don't look to challenge themselves.
This is where these kind of players will get the most push if someone with greater knowledge of the spec on the same ilvl wastly outperforms them. Here players are getting divided and this is what's going to separate an avarage player from a highly decent player who continues to improve.
On the other note most players aren't looking into their spec or how it's played. It's a very small fraction of players who use any online resource. (Warcraft logs, Lorrgs, Archon, Murlok, Bloodmallet, mythicstats, wowhead, icyveins, youtube uploads by high ranking players observing what they do) for a well informed player these are vital when they start playing something or adapting to a newly introduced change.
From experience this is pretty much only true for players already progressing Mythic raids and who were able to reach KSH fairly quick in the beginning of any season.
Yea, also good to mention that most of the player base doesn't consume any wow content besides what's in the news. So most of the things mentioned will always sound like no lifer neckbearded thing to say for them and being above avarage in a game will always be a niche thing.
very cool vid
i'm new from tww and wants to tryhard things a bit, so checking my parses, trying to do better each raid runs etc etc… ( i'm playing UH DK )
it can be pretty overwhelming to really know what is the reason of not doing good parses with everyone saying boss timer is really important, or those kind of external factors that have an impact on your parses
as a new player again i'm not aware of them so i'm more blaming myself than everything else but hearing you speaking about your experiences with all of this is pretty reassuring, and made me remember that room for progression is always big, i'm pretty much in the opposite situation that u explain in your vid but its still helping for the future and to keep focus on what matters.
so thanks !
( Crawdk – Hyjal on wclogs if someone is curious or is an UH DK that wants to help me be a better parser lol )
Hey, this is a great video that a lot of players should relate to, I fully agree with you. But I'm not sure if "fully leaning in the opposite direction" is the right call, at least for me. I've long past realized I'm the issue. When I watch logs of other people, I'm not trying to diminish their success to ease my ego. When I train 10 hours a week on a dummies, I'm not doing it to be better than my pairs. I'm doing it to get better as a player. I'm well aware blaming the healer isn't going to help me improve. I guess my real issue is, even after realizing I'm the issue I don't seem to be able to improve. Maybe I just blame myself and do not put enough effort in getting better…
I'm the kind of dude who used to change completely my key binds every 2 weeks just to find the perfect assignments and the easiest way to press button, because my mechanical skills, I would say are under average. I then train myself hours upon hours on dummies. I review logs during hours every week. I'm the kind of dude that can't go in a raid if I don't know every abilities and mechanics.
Not going to lie at the start of a new patch, I'm quite stressed, having to learn all of this. But that motivates me, learning is fun and surpassing my fears also is.
Now again we are at the end of the patch and I feel exhausted, having lost all the good will I had months ago, refuging myself on my alts, and watching more gold making videos than trying to improve.
Anyways, I really think your video caters to lots of people. And I would love if you had any tips for me and players feeling like me.
Keep up the good work !
Can we make a religion out of this?
I can appreciate this video because I am/was a classic andy. Never played any retail xpacs seriously. Didn't think I could handle all the mechanics/rotation in retail- all of it was daunting since the learning curve is so steep.
But learning as you've said in this video I've been able to get AOTC and 2.5k IO on arcane mage in TWW. If you're reading this- it is possible! Improve your mental and you can do it.
Good stuff!
Great video. Unfortunately, the people you're trying to reach are also the ones in the comments defending their own lackluster gameplay.
Sharing this to my wow friends!!
Some good points, but i feel like this only relevant for people raging at pugs. I’ve never really cared about people making mistakes, what annoys me is the *ssholes that ALT+ F4 in the middle of a key. That really boils my blood, especially in 10s when all I really care about is getting some return on my time investment, 5 crests and a vault slot is still better then nothing, even if you overtime by 10mins.
I Honestly don’t care about taking my sub average 75% parses to 100%. I rather just not stand in shit and live the entire encounter. All the 99% bro’s taking turns blowing the raid up just to maximize their deeps is more detrimental to killing bosses then if everyone just focused on mechanic’s and parsing around 50%. You want to parse? Great are you in a top100 guild? No? Then parse on reclear.
My biggest problem I have with improving “At” wow, is getting my frame rate to a playable 60+ fps, tweaking my addons and settings is my “prep” for progress, and it’s a weekly struggle.
And i’m far from the only one.
sounds like too much work
This video is the most accurate description of DPS copium and my own mental i've ever stumbled upon. Chapeau!
Fellow mage here! May I politely ask if your UI is available anywhere? It's so clean and seems to fit my needs.
Based video. I had been feeling like there needed to be a video like this for a very long time.
4:44 through 4:58, Jocko approved
Hey man, fantastic video – keep it up
Why is parse so important to you, its a toxic thing. And sometimes you are targeted or doing mechanics or the raid is strugling. Only the performance in your current raid matter why ego drive internetsite parses.
Giving my 2 cents as I watch, somewhat new Player here, played some classic years ago but new to retail & its honestly baffling how many ppl with 2.2-2.5k rio still dont know how to play mechanics in a dungeon and then insta leave when their dying, all while using 0 defensives and 0 kicks XD
I just dont get it, its just delusional
You are easier on yourself than what reality demands and far harder on others than what they deserve. Wow that's so good.
Just keep a hunter in your group for blaming purposes at all times. Easy.
Hello, great vid. Just one thing, from my own experience class discords and wowhead guides are not always reliable source of information about your class, if you really want to minmax, just learn how to read in warcraftlogs. As a tank I always look up top 5 parses on pure ST boss and analyze their openers, buff uptimes, stats, enchants etc. Then I use my own experience and pick what is best for me currently. By doing this I'm consistently parsing in the 99-100 range, even if I'm 10 item levels behind.
And if you are not comfortable on your class as a tank, don't do this, don't int your raid group.
Honestly goated video. I have been noticing as I get more and more into this game my mental is getting shot down when I see my guildies who are a little higher ilevel than me are hit 95+ parses during our weekly heroics and it made me start to question what I’m doing wrong. We all come from another game where to get to worlds first level we had to sit infront of a dummy for hours a week to perfect our rotos, stock logs, and rewatch vods. It’s been so long since I’ve done that but after watching this I believe I have more of an incentive to do so due to the simple fact that I too have had the wrong mentality. I hope this video will get the recognition it deserves ❤
I actually have had to adopt a mindset in the opposite direction. I have a problem where I will instinctually eviscerate myself over the smallest mistakes to the point of being afraid to make them. Getting better at allowing myself to learn from mistakes instead of grilling myself for 10 minutes over slightly messing up a mechanic is making me a lot less nervous and helping me be more consistent as a player.
Wonderful analysis. I just worry that fundamentally this mindset is wasted on video games as opposed to other aspects of life far more deserving of this approach.
Valuable message applicable to all aspects of life, great pacing, nice humor, 5/5 star
Super clean UI. Where can I find it?