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The Creation Catalyst in WoW Shadowlands patch 9.2 is coming very soon and lots of folks have been clamoring for it. But what does the release of this feature mean?
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0:00 The Creation Catalyst
1:55 Tangent – Mage Tower
8:28 How far have we come
21:03 The long term impact
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I look at how much gold I would need to get my legendaries if I came back – and that makes me say screw it. Not gonna bother.
why can I convert cloaks and bracers?
I would love to know the break down in numbers for casual/raiders/mythic+ would be interesting. the fans who complain are probably those same ones who go into lfr and complain about the dps/tanking/healing…the ones who have normal/heroic and i see some mythic sod people in there complaining. lol it is laughable that they come to lfr to complain abt ppl's dps. I am a semi casual who goes to lfr to enjoy some semblance of the raid.
I too am a solo player & am loving the opportunity to obtain higher tier gear.
Thank god the prices of timewalking gear for the mage tower is going down. It was gouged to crazy town. I might actually try some of my alts as the prices are reasonable.
"soloe players are not going to need tier" i beg to differ. Casual still NEEEED tier, whether we ever ever equip the gear or nah. Even if its not tied directly to player power a new piece of tmog is still progress to players that only collect. The logic that nothing outside player power matter can get so fucked!
People that get mad at casuales getting tier are weird, like why does it matter?!?!??
oh yeah that right most humans are selfish and greedy that enjoy being able to look down on others and mock them for not having x,y,x
over all I'm glad Blizz is doing this and hopefully it make it live well done blizzard now if they can make old content dungond and riad spamable for trasnmogs farming
arent you the biggest advocate for the mage tower being up forever? i dont remember you suggesting any interesting alternative to how the event occurs.
of all people, i thought you would be the most excited about it being up. irony.
I don't do dungeons, keys or raids. I spend less than an hour a day doing dailies and still make 500k gold a month (200k goes to wow sub). Im already exalted with the Enlightened, two legendary 291. Raiding holds no value to me since it resets every xpac. Raids today are way easier than past raids. No way I'm spending hours upon hours like it's a part time job for gear! Honestly, I only play this game for vanity items!
People don't want everything, they just want a good game, something which wow has not been for some time but it seems Blizzard seem incapable of grasping that, and just throwing out the odd token gesture!!
I used to be hardcore raider but changing to the casual players was something i chose later on to suit my busy work schedule.
It does seem you see the Elitist players are the only ones Blizzard pander to and/or listen to, they want to please them above anything else, hence that council thing which only has them giving feedback there.
If they give casual players equally powerful gear to acquire, then make it take longer to acquire from other sources which will give casual players more option to stay online and do other things for better gear.
Not everyone has time for raids, so alternative sources where you can take your own time to grind for it at your leisure would be more practical for casual players.
But I'll not hold my breath,
I was under the impression that all purple gear from ZM was upgradable via the catalyst. So 252 armor from world quest would be the far better way to get tier.
Honestly this only affects LFR because the 239 gear is now null and void. Sand gear is 242 and everything else can be gained via world quests and dailies. The only thing you can't get is a decent weapon/trinket. Give that time because 9.2.5 is said to have vendors 🙂
So anyone can get the better gear from raid without even doing the raid yet only pvp people can get good pvp gear?
If stuff like this is going to be done it should be done across the board.
Honestly the mage tower being up permanently gives something for solo casuals to do long term that is challenging and satisfying. Visions was this in patch 8.3. The fact that it’s up all the time means there is plenty of time to farm the gear or consumables or gold to buy them without being taken advantage of. Overall win id say.
The only people salty about it are those trying to make gold.
Thank you for supporting US “solo” players Soul’ … long time player and I would be more open to trying end game content with better gear on my back. I know allot of raiding is mostly elitist and it makes non raiders shy away from even trying. Open to it and I want to learn. Anyhow cheers my WoW peeps .
I came back to wow after years of not playing. Trying to get into PVP is a nightmare… what the hell happened? Now I have to marry a dwarf and have 4 children.
good for the 10 solo players in wow xd
I feel it will intrigue people to to be more end game, hopefully the (not high enough gear score) problem which I encounter regularly will be a hill that casual players can transform into the other form of player. I was grinding hard after a 15 year break and was a month in before the new patch. I still am not where I'd like to be where waiting on a good drop happens. The dungeon mechanics are difficult without a way to communicate. So bottom line is have a team using the ability to share the knowledge from experience to lower lvl people. I honestly think they should have a smoother voice or not grouping instead of a text box saying discord only
I am mostly solo and casual raiding. 1 big benefit to the ability to craft tier is the transmog. I don’t see this talked about enough honestly. Season 3 will be over in a few months but the tier transmogs will be ours as long as we play. It is very common for me to just not get a transmog appearance during the raid. I Never got my helm from season 1 SL and so to get that appearance I have to wait 1-2 expansions and go back to farm it solo. With season 3 if I miss 1 slot I can just get a piece of gear and use the creation catalyst to learn that missing place for my set appearance.
we got flying and imma still bitch about it. ALWAYS.
I am glad they are making it available to players of all types. Gives everyone whose playing something to look forward to..whether it's being able to have the tier set as a solo player or being able to fill in the missing pieces. Great video
Tier gear made from sandworn relics are not upgradable & will always be same iLvl. This fact alone is big enough for the big 3 fellow players to feel at ease.
As for me, I feel happy to have this change in game, even if it has a cap.
Thank you for being a voice for those enjoying the casual and/or solo content, and giving us a chance to get tier pieces. Though doing "casual" content and solo content, the numbers of gaming hours can be staggering among that crowd, equivalent and even exceeding sometimes raiders. Having raiders eg into the casual content of ZM is going to be fun: more people to down the rares, more rares spawning, etc. When you solo, being able to survive and do some real damage counts even more than if you are in a group of 20 or 40: you are "it". Plus it's feeling valued and getting the transmorg for it. Blizzard is trying and changing, and that is really exciting for us players and for the future of WoW, a game that has taken a hammering in recent years.
Still gated pvp gear via rating so STILL NO THANKS BLIZZARD!
Being a solo and being a casual are NOT synonymous. I play solo pretty much every day. I've been playing WoW since 2005 and only left dungeons and raids when the groups became too toxic for me to deal with. I think one of the greatest things in Shadowlands has been Torghast where we can have dungeon like content playing singly or with a friend or two. Hopefully the next time when similar content is available, it will offer loot and tier drops. That would be fantastic.
blizzard gives free content and you cry you wanted more stuff its there
Account wide rep or bliz can suck it
I think the argument for the mage tower being up all the time was derived from people trying to help blizzard see what would be FUN content to have in an expansion when it felt it just revolved around AP and knowledge grinds
It’s a “heeeyy you had this type of content and we loved it put it back in the game”
We have Torghast now and tbh I would rather the mage tower be exclusive content that we can attain anymore
And Instead focus an evergreen style of torghast.
I really don't like the idea of giving Casual players everything on silver plate, mostly becouse they than would yell around on Reddit or Forums that they want more and more "casual friendly" things. And even now going on Reddit and seeing 1k+ upvotes on "Catalyst needs to be out now" from like a week or two ago kills me inside, as a raider who through swet tears and blood acquired his tier in previous expacks, and Vanilla/BC Classic. There is already LFR and all the additional loot boxes for them, and raiders get's broken box of dreams and achievements that later on everyone will have (f.e. Mythic Boss ach, and mounts not just AotC/CE) while PvP and M+ players have season specific mounts/ach/mog. If you are playing casually, you should get rewarded as one. And if you want to push high M+ rating you still should Raid for items as it's still PvE content. And PvP should have their sets working only in PvP, so they don't have to bother with PvE.
Tbh, I'm glad the mage tower is up always. The challenge of the mage tower should be skill, not a time-gate. As for the crafters who are "languishing", good. – going back to it being a skill challenge, all crafted/timewalking gear/consumables should be unusable in the challenge. It's beyond ridiculous that there's such a large power difference in the challenges between using current shadowlands gear/consumables and using crafted/timewalking for gear/consumables. It completely invalidates the skill element of the challenge.
I run M+'s and occasionally raid. I love the tier system, and I love how we can get it from the Vault (even if it's super rare). but I'm very much looking forward to solo content players to be able to get more than collectables!
also, Soul, hang the picture in your background!
Great overview
What transmog appearance will the converted Sandworn gear be? LFR or Normal tier appearance?
Solo player ftw. Now we can avoid divas in the game
Soul – loving the focus on casual/solo players. As one of those folks one thing I'd stress is that I don't want to get the stuff raiders/mythic/pvpers get (not saying its bad – just I feel no sense of entitlement to it) but I just want stuff to do importantly shaped around the fact I am solo. How about 1 person raids/dungeons that can ONLY be done solo and ONLY be done using gear got doing solo – perhaps just tune existing stuff so it can be done solo and rewarded as such? Gear/skill trees/currencies for the solo player. Why do I play an MMO then – for the same reason I'm an introvert but don't live on a desert island – the auction house, the occasional low level raid, the occasional chat with a stranger, just being around but not dealing with people. What I want would cost mythics/raiders/pvpers precisely zero, if anything they gain, Im more likely to farm and make the shit they want/need.
I think the Catalyst is great. Allow more players more fun.
Yes, yes they do need to undue the dumb crap of removing content from the game that was great xmog. Like who thought this was a good idea and did they get fired? This isn't even casual content. This is old content now casual.
I don't want to do dumb stuff to have fun. My biggest issue right now with WoW is dailies are absolute trash. Rep is abused to hide stuff behind instead of being cool rewards. I'm maybe halfway through ZM and I'm bored to tears. It's booooooring. Its kill this 30 times collect that 10 times and rinse and repeat for 5-10 hours. Bleh gameplay.
I'm happy you get the gear. I personally don't care you get a lower ilvl item that you worked for. I can also upgrade my stuff there as well so smiles all around. I wish it would have come week 4 after patch.
Its much better Soul. Though they have miles to go before they can catch up to 14 in casual content. In some instances oceans are smaller than the distance between the two games.
I think if Blizzard actually thought about it they could come up with cool mini games that have nothing to do with endgame progression. Not crap put in dailies like puzzles. Not saying there shouldn't be puzzles just thats the only place they are.
My biggest question is " what have they added since WoD or Legion that was casual content that had nothing to do with endgame progression at all." The selfie cam is all I could think of that doesn't tie in to you directly getting to 60 or doing things after.
huge win imo, HUGE W, i am going to be even more active as of next reset, as i got 50 characters to cover in Tier, which will only be quicker to do as the weeks pass.
I stopped playing 2 weeks ago seems to me they made the game to dependent on other players i used to love pvp but they ruined pvp in wow i have not pvp'd for 10 years