I have no interest in replaying the same shit using over used affix bs , idk tbh I am so tired of seasonal shit, is kill for wow to move away from this seasonal system
Personally not a huge fan of fated raids, but I'm also not really against it. It's one of those things that would be nice to actually get another raid with new gear and models, but I'm not about to lose sleep over it. There are bigger more important matters and issues to address than "timewalking" current expansion raids for a season.
what if, and hear me on this.. you made a fated raid where no one knows who the next boss or how many bosses there are…. So hear me out on this… Let's say they made fated raid where you THINK you are doing Castle Nathria, you kill the bat, and then you get teleported into Nyalotha and fight soccer boss, and then when you kill it you teleport to Nighthold and fight Tichondrius, and then you teleport to Firelands and fight the spinning giant and then… well you get the point. But the beauty is, there is no raid guide, and no one knows who the next boss is until, well, someone else finished it ofc, and you also don't know how many bosses in total until, well, someone finishes it
Not a wow player. If WoW is becoming more of a dungeon game, are you getting more dungeons? More zones to explore with the smaller but more frequent updates?
"We're gonna have to cancel 9.3 to make way for dragonflight", "we're gonna have to can 10.3 to make way for TWW", "we're gonna have to do without 11.3 to make way for midnight"…. They're charging the same price for expansions they have no intention of fully delivering. They knew exactly what they were doing when they released the 2023 roadmap and we all said "oh it's okay we'll get 10.3 in 2024, it'll be on that roadmap".
They could LITERALLY just use the bronze dragons and be like "Yo, thanks for your help with the timeways and all….. the infinite dragons are fucking with the result of the nighthold, go there and make sure it goes the way it went!"
I have so little faith in blizzard to do NEW endgame shit, that i BET that "Time running Pandamoneum" is just gonna be a repeatable side activity you can do where its just that quest where you run with the bronze tauren dragon through time periods in the style of an endless runner or some stupid dumb shit like that.
Didn't like it in Shadowlands and I refuse to support it now. I unsubbed last month, so runs out end of this month. Our mythic guild is done till prepatch as others agreed in the guild are burnt out and don't like the idea of Fated raids and reused M+ shouldn't be supported as the month we pay per month shows improper expansion planning and a lazy way out. Peace out peeps till prepatch expansion. Grats to those who like this, personally I wont change my mind on this kind of content, I only hope our guild survives this "mid" dry spell…
@19:20 All good lads, but There´s something very important a lot of people forget about overall /total m+ participation numbers…
That being that there are a lot of raiders that run m+, not because they enjoy it so much that they´d rather spend 8hrs a week in there as opposed to 6 hrs a week in the raid. It´s entirely because after the raid ic cleared, the only source left for wryms and aspect crests is M+.
When did Blizzard say they wanted to do away with people being forded to run content they don´t enjoyagain? Sometime arounf 9.2.5 IIRC, so over 2 years now and raiders are still getting funneled into other content… my 25 man raid team alone is 350 "dead" chars in the m+ statistic that only exist because of crest farming, and finding a few ten or hundred thousand people with similar viewpoints and play profiles shouldnt be all that hard.
But I think Blizzard doesn´t want to risk the potential bad press for m+ by halving it´s playercount or worse by giving us double or triple weekly lockouts… Because I have a sneaky suspicion that without raiders being forced to spend more time in M+ than they do in the raid the M+ scene might suddenly make Pet battles look popular.. 🤣
Not trying to say M+ is dead without raiders by any stretch, but the number is massively inflated as a result of how the upgrade system is currently set up, "heavily incentivising" raiders to run M+ whether they want to or not. But one should also consider that many of the <1500 characters (not accounts btw, so quite possibly teh same player 2-3-4 times) that will get the .1% title are also RWF raiders with Orgs backing them….
But as a result of al of this, how many "normal" players are engaginging with m+ because they actually enjoy m+ is actually a huge question mark… all we know is that in a perfect world without alts, raiders and other factors it´s 3,7 million people, and that in our objective reality where those things do matter the real number is going to be nowhere near that high, and quite possibly in the sub-1 million player range, bacause math.
A whopping three raids… Y'know, at this point just copy the raid structure from XIV; Add in a 10-man queueable version of the normal raid, then give people heroic/mythic. Then next patch add in the LFR. Or something.. i don't know.. whatever they're doing isn't working anymore; so copy the homework from someone that has stuff going on.
I mean its the end of an expansion, go hog wild like with corruptions, make everyone stupidly overpowered for the last bit, shuffle some old raids back in, just scale them up, give use Molten core 1 week then ICC another, make it so you can get a time lost legendary from raid that have them that only work for the season. Make it so some stupid choatic timey wimey stuff happens like fighting lei shen and deathwing randomly does a straffing run mid fight. Make it so random bloodlust happens during bosses, just make it bat shit insane but fun.
If its costing us a raid tier, at least make it worth it
I was fine with season 4, until they announced the Mythic plus dungeons being Dragonflight.
I've levelled 11 characters 60-70 from dungeons, so for me, it's going to be a big no, and I will see what the war within has to offer upon release before i decide what I'm doing.
if you didnt play for most of the expansion, having the raids come back as fated lets more people at least see the content. you cant even get an LFR group for the first couple raids
Yes.
It's a good idea but as always the execution might end up not being great.
I have no interest in replaying the same shit using over used affix bs , idk tbh I am so tired of seasonal shit, is kill for wow to move away from this seasonal system
Personally not a huge fan of fated raids, but I'm also not really against it. It's one of those things that would be nice to actually get another raid with new gear and models, but I'm not about to lose sleep over it. There are bigger more important matters and issues to address than "timewalking" current expansion raids for a season.
Obvious answer is that for season 4 they should do a gnomeregan or bfd raid
what if, and hear me on this.. you made a fated raid where no one knows who the next boss or how many bosses there are….
So hear me out on this… Let's say they made fated raid where you THINK you are doing Castle Nathria, you kill the bat, and then you get teleported into Nyalotha and fight soccer boss, and then when you kill it you teleport to Nighthold and fight Tichondrius, and then you teleport to Firelands and fight the spinning giant and then… well you get the point.
But the beauty is, there is no raid guide, and no one knows who the next boss is until, well, someone else finished it ofc, and you also don't know how many bosses in total until, well, someone finishes it
Fated replacing a raid tier compared to legion/bfa is just bad.
It was fine the first time. It was unique and new.
But the second time just feels lazy. And you can't use the excuse that you're looking forward to TWW because it's getting the same treatment.
fyrakk is just a scalie solval
The only thing ill blame holly for. Is putting onher best Kathleen kennedy impression during blizcon
Yes they are.
That's all
As a casual I like fated raids.
Im not 100% against fated raids but…. they should not be the most recent expansions raid…. and should be modified to flow into the next expansion.
Fated raids are good for 1-2 months before the pre-patch for the next expansion, not for 6 months content droughts.
Not a wow player. If WoW is becoming more of a dungeon game, are you getting more dungeons? More zones to explore with the smaller but more frequent updates?
"We're gonna have to cancel 9.3 to make way for dragonflight", "we're gonna have to can 10.3 to make way for TWW", "we're gonna have to do without 11.3 to make way for midnight"….
They're charging the same price for expansions they have no intention of fully delivering. They knew exactly what they were doing when they released the 2023 roadmap and we all said "oh it's okay we'll get 10.3 in 2024, it'll be on that roadmap".
They could LITERALLY just use the bronze dragons and be like "Yo, thanks for your help with the timeways and all….. the infinite dragons are fucking with the result of the nighthold, go there and make sure it goes the way it went!"
Thats ALL
I have so little faith in blizzard to do NEW endgame shit, that i BET that "Time running Pandamoneum" is just gonna be a repeatable side activity you can do where its just that quest where you run with the bronze tauren dragon through time periods in the style of an endless runner or some stupid dumb shit like that.
Didn't like it in Shadowlands and I refuse to support it now. I unsubbed last month, so runs out end of this month. Our mythic guild is done till prepatch as others agreed in the guild are burnt out and don't like the idea of Fated raids and reused M+ shouldn't be supported as the month we pay per month shows improper expansion planning and a lazy way out. Peace out peeps till prepatch expansion. Grats to those who like this, personally I wont change my mind on this kind of content, I only hope our guild survives this "mid" dry spell…
@19:20 All good lads, but There´s something very important a lot of people forget about overall /total m+ participation numbers…
That being that there are a lot of raiders that run m+, not because they enjoy it so much that they´d rather spend 8hrs a week in there as opposed to 6 hrs a week in the raid. It´s entirely because after the raid ic cleared, the only source left for wryms and aspect crests is M+.
When did Blizzard say they wanted to do away with people being forded to run content they don´t enjoyagain? Sometime arounf 9.2.5 IIRC, so over 2 years now and raiders are still getting funneled into other content… my 25 man raid team alone is 350 "dead" chars in the m+ statistic that only exist because of crest farming, and finding a few ten or hundred thousand people with similar viewpoints and play profiles shouldnt be all that hard.
But I think Blizzard doesn´t want to risk the potential bad press for m+ by halving it´s playercount or worse by giving us double or triple weekly lockouts… Because I have a sneaky suspicion that without raiders being forced to spend more time in M+ than they do in the raid the M+ scene might suddenly make Pet battles look popular.. 🤣
Not trying to say M+ is dead without raiders by any stretch, but the number is massively inflated as a result of how the upgrade system is currently set up, "heavily incentivising" raiders to run M+ whether they want to or not. But one should also consider that many of the <1500 characters (not accounts btw, so quite possibly teh same player 2-3-4 times) that will get the .1% title are also RWF raiders with Orgs backing them….
But as a result of al of this, how many "normal" players are engaginging with m+ because they actually enjoy m+ is actually a huge question mark… all we know is that in a perfect world without alts, raiders and other factors it´s 3,7 million people, and that in our objective reality where those things do matter the real number is going to be nowhere near that high, and quite possibly in the sub-1 million player range, bacause math.
Upside down raids, a la upside down castle from Castlevania: Symphony of the Nighy
I am definitely not playing beside the start of the expansion anymore
A whopping three raids… Y'know, at this point just copy the raid structure from XIV; Add in a 10-man queueable version of the normal raid, then give people heroic/mythic. Then next patch add in the LFR.
Or something.. i don't know.. whatever they're doing isn't working anymore; so copy the homework from someone that has stuff going on.
I mean its the end of an expansion, go hog wild like with corruptions, make everyone stupidly overpowered for the last bit, shuffle some old raids back in, just scale them up, give use Molten core 1 week then ICC another, make it so you can get a time lost legendary from raid that have them that only work for the season. Make it so some stupid choatic timey wimey stuff happens like fighting lei shen and deathwing randomly does a straffing run mid fight. Make it so random bloodlust happens during bosses, just make it bat shit insane but fun.
If its costing us a raid tier, at least make it worth it
I was fine with season 4, until they announced the Mythic plus dungeons being Dragonflight.
I've levelled 11 characters 60-70 from dungeons, so for me, it's going to be a big no, and I will see what the war within has to offer upon release before i decide what I'm doing.
Technically Legion also had 4,5 raids. You guys forgot Trials of Valor, the 3 boss mini-raid they dropped before Nighthold.
if you didnt play for most of the expansion, having the raids come back as fated lets more people at least see the content. you cant even get an LFR group for the first couple raids
And will there be upgraded Legendaries if they scale things up? Is Fyrlath and the Dracthyr legendary getting an upgraded version?