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Why are the Genesaur and Magnaron on Azeroth and is Evergrowth related to Elune?
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So we are discovering Draenor mobs all over Khaz’Algar and I know this might seem like such a minor detail, just Blizzard being lazy and using placeholders but when you actually examine the lore and implications it is actually crazy. The magnaron we had seen is actually a new model, with 2 eyes and it’s not even a magnaron however the Genesaur is called the Verdant Hulk and has apparently recently crashed into Azeroth as in someone summoned him. The genesaur are Draenor demigods of the evergrowth that once threated to turn the entire planet into a wild jungle until the ‘heroic’ Aggramar the titan came in and created a construct to battle them. Recent titan lore shows us that the titans are in fact lying most of the time.
All this is happening right next to what appear to be the roots of Elun’Ahir the very first world tree of Azeroth, planted by Elune and destroyed by the titans, much like how the evergrowth was destroyed on Draenor. As we know Elune is a cosmological being could she be behind the Evergrowth from Draenor and these are her minions attempting to create a new nature hivemind on Azeroth, or could this genesaur be summoned by the botani that escaped to Barrens back in BFA and he did in fact crash in from Draneor. Let’s examine all the lore that we have.
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Quick correction as this video is from a week ago, we just learned the Genesaur is from Dalaran, however still doesn't discount the Evergrowth-Elune connection which is very likely. Also get amazing deals with my discount code 'DORON' https://gvo.deals/Doron
well the chance is there i watched the maghar allied race quest again, 2 botani and 3 saberons escaped to our azeroth
No. No Elune/Evergrowth. No need to make everything connected and make the vast universe feel smaller.
Thing is it's all about perspective of Existence and Consequences. Void is a Endless Hunger of corruption Light Is also Subjucation and expansion Life is ever growing untamed and ever Devouring as the Void Hunger can be. Titan are just Order nothing above just Stability. In the end all Cosmological Forces Void Light Life Elementals so on have each a Consequences and and the Titans evil as there Retcon is now written they are ultimately the lesser of Evils in a whole Map of Forces whom are Evil in there nature Untamed. As Titans are just Keppers of Checks and Balances for all Other Cosmological Forces whom left unchecked leads to a Extremes that Destroys Ultimately a Planets Inhabitants.
The vassal of life (Eonar) disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green. "Eyes of Green" = jealousy, but is it Elune thats jealous like in the Embrace story, or is it the Vassal whos jealous??
Powers from the First World Tree Elun'Ahir coming
Unfortunately the story is starting to get confusing again 🤔 It seems to me like the Titans and Elune are having a fight over responsibility.
I wonder if Elune was once a titan and she decided to step out on the pantheon before Sargeras.
Quest text indicates that crater in question is from the hammer Fearbreaker which slipped from Magni's hands during the fall of Dalaran and crashed down into the Ringing Deeps. Not from the Genesaur.
Im still not on the "Titans are bad" boat, trying to put morality on cosmic beings is weird to me. Doesnt exactly mean i think they're good or benevolent either, they simply are.
Could the Beladar be like the Arcatraz? Maybe all these things are escaping their stasis pods after the sword hit the planet
Blizzard have reused models from other zones that make NO sense since the beginning of the WoW!
I wonder if this is the ancient troll race we were supposed to meet in Dragonflight.
This is all over the place. For me, real Warcraft lore ended after Frozen Throne.
Short answer: no.
godzilla and bigfoot has a bastard brat lol 00:11
I hate this "The Titans are actually totally the bad guys, guys!"
No, no they're not. If they were they wouldn't give two shits about being careful with planets. Aggramar would've just split Draenor in half because of such aberrations against order. Instead they try to delegate to not damage the planets they're involved with, learning from the mistake they made with Y'shaarj in Azeroth.
Blizzard will never make me believe the only cosmical forces fighting against the Void, The Burning Legion, Elemental Lords that submit to the void, old gods, etc are "ackthually" the bad guys. It's okay to have factual good guys, Blizzard. And it's okay to not be just the players.
Like, I was laughing whenever I saw lore objects from the primalists perspective where they're trying to defend the old gods. The OLD GODS???? REALLY??? YOu're gonna try to paint the titans as bad by defending the OLD GODS??
Botani: killing all the laughing skull that survived the destruction of their village
Doran: lets hear their side of the story
Eh wow lore is so convoluted now.
Azeroth should have had MORE refugees from both Alternative Draenor and Outland imo. That it took this long to work them into the main story is kind of shocking.
I absolutely hate this "titans bad" lore. If that's the plot, then I'm definitely not playing it. Steve Denuser is the one who brought this "titans are lying, titans bad" stuff. Lore is dead.
I think you are making a mistake of assuming that Draenor is a source, rather than Draenor being a consequence of a separate source. Like….. if you are around your Aunt Gertrude, and then you find that you have a cold virus….. it is not appropriate to say that Aunt Gertrude is invading your body. Instead, you would have to admit that a separate source, the cold virus itself….. had attacked your Aunt Gertrude, and when there was proximity between Gertrude and you, that cold virus had the opportunity to spread its attack upon you as well. In the case of Draenor, Cosmic Team Life was attacking that planet and destroying it…… and regardless of whether there was any portal access later, Cosmic Team Life was also attacking the planet Azeroth many thousands of years ago, before the Black Empire.
Cosmic Team Life is the source of this problem, not draenor.
FFS, the titans were never "order only, else is abomination"! Their "ordering" was simply bring balance to an ecosystem so life could grow and the word soul could mature in peace, if the planet possesses one. All this "titans bad" and "point of view" stuff are BULLSHIT created by Steve Denuser, and anyone who is actually fine with this are accomplice with Denuser's atrocities to the lore. Fuck I wish I could delete my love for this game from my brain!
There is absolutely no evidence showing the Titans are "the bad guys" ….. that's nonsense.
Naive Doron. 😀 Blizzard 100% lazy …they just added it to lore to make it look deep. Which on other side is shame. Blizzard overall is absurdly lazy.
Botani came with Maghar orcs. Thats it.
Wasn't Eonar the one who planted the first world tree?
Blizzard just be making up lore now with dice or tarot cards or something
what about these creatures coming to Azeroth with the Mag'har story?
I like the idea that they are all fleeing from AU Dranor, the light crusade is coming to a close, as the army of the light is preparing for its next goal, Azeroth. With Teralian at the alliances primary seat of power, I would be terrified if Yurel pops up, because we all know how her last crusade went, and seeing it first hand on Azeroth, is not going to be pretty.
Warlords had a lot of trouble, but some of the lore pieces like the Genesaurs and the Evergrowth has a great deal of potential, so I was happy to see the Botani enter Azeroth and I really think it'd make perfect sense for them to summon a genesaur to Azeroth, perhaps one that had evaded the Horde on Draenor and ended up on it's own asteroid after Draenor's explosion. But yeah it seems likely that the Evergrowth will turn into generic mooks for the cosmic forces. Either way we're in for some interesting times in game.
The way I see it, The Sporemounds and Evergrowth are Life equivalent of Old Gods
i dont like this idea that we now talk about that titans are bad. cause they at the end of the day have different morality and on top of that even still arent presented as Bad Guys but in pursuit of what would be considered natural to them.
Aggramar was in the right. The Evergrowth are vicious, nature unbound. They are a potential threat to any planet. While the titans arent always in the right dont think they are evil.