23 thoughts on “How hard is it to pug a Mythic+ Key in World of Warcraft?”
Oh man tell me about it I have spent hours and I mean HOURS as a Fury Warrior trying to get into 18’s and I’m 2400 RiO and 475ilvl and then when I get in I get kicked when/if they find a higher ilvl fury like WTF man it’s sad so I play other games
Main thing that makes loads of people quitting after the first month of every season. Same for me too even though I got a 4-5 man group with friends, its just not fun when all you can do is raid once a week and then have to wait for each other every night to finally be able to do a key because its next to impossible to get into a pug group even with good gear and rio score. Not sure how could they solve this issue but its simply unplaybale. Right now even the hardcore retail friends gone and playing classic sod and saying they are having more fun than what they had in retail long time ago.
It's all dependent on what you play and how hard you make it for yourself. If you play tank or healer it's not that bad, I main healer and have pugged keys to +23. When I play my DPS hunter alt it's abit worse but I just aim to not be picky in what groups I sign up too
I just had this problem trying to get into heroic raid.. I’ve done everything on normal and learned the mechanics but since I haven’t done it before and am only 465 I can’t get in one and I’m like basically stuck cause I can’t do anything except keys to gear and I’m having this problem
I don’t think so, you can to some extent blame the M+ rating system also. Yes you can use it to track your own personal best but it’s used more as a gate to stop new or learning players from getting into your keys
It's both player base and the games fault. The more punishing you make something, the more players will start to eliminate that potential punishment. Hence, the strictness of requirements.
If you aren't about that PUG life then join a guild or community that is M+ centric. Pugging could be difficult at times but for the most part I don't run into any issues. Run your own keys/groups, get your IO up (run ALL the dungeons, this shows that you have experience), and consider running lower keys then you would like to get gear and IO. There are issues with the system but don''t let it deter or frustrate you, be patient.
You can blame WoW for the key system. If it wasn't timed, if it wasn't limited, if it didn't punish for failure, you wouldn't have these same problems.
PGF Addon (Premade Group Filter) — Will make finding your pugs 10,000x easier. I only ever see keys with a tank and heal already inside. Or without one depending on the class I am playing.
Never hurts to put a little confidence in the note too. "Gamer dps, knows mechs" — can go a long way.
90% of the players I run into couldn't tell you what interrupts are mandatory, let alone details of boss fights. Yet you find these noobs trying to hop into a +15 constantly. They don't adjust to the scaling the same way a healer or tank does. Realizing "Everyone dies if I don't start doing this better".
My stun and fear game as a holy priest has skyrocketed from pug experiences. I don't even have an actual interrupt; but will get more out than some dps in higher keys. While dealing with both affliction at the same time. Cause lets face it. Those 90% are too incompetent to google what they can do for a weekly affix to be helpful.
M+ was never designed to be easy Pug content, puging can work, but is so damn ineffectiv for playing the game. I got super Lucky and was playing dps DH for DF and have uber Meta Status RN. But for the love of all that is good, get yourself a guild!
All they need to do to solve this is make it so a clear ups your key by 1-3 depending on performance. A fail lowers your key by 1-5 depending on performance. You always keep your key and it floats and changes based on your skill level…..
Oh man tell me about it I have spent hours and I mean HOURS as a Fury Warrior trying to get into 18’s and I’m 2400 RiO and 475ilvl and then when I get in I get kicked when/if they find a higher ilvl fury like WTF man it’s sad so I play other games
Cry
Main thing that makes loads of people quitting after the first month of every season. Same for me too even though I got a 4-5 man group with friends, its just not fun when all you can do is raid once a week and then have to wait for each other every night to finally be able to do a key because its next to impossible to get into a pug group even with good gear and rio score.
Not sure how could they solve this issue but its simply unplaybale. Right now even the hardcore retail friends gone and playing classic sod and saying they are having more fun than what they had in retail long time ago.
When I join lower keys the lead takes forever to get more and I normally tell them get whoever as long as they have a pulse.
It's all dependent on what you play and how hard you make it for yourself. If you play tank or healer it's not that bad, I main healer and have pugged keys to +23. When I play my DPS hunter alt it's abit worse but I just aim to not be picky in what groups I sign up too
You keep on saying its a player issue.. its not. its a COMMUNITY issue. Get those two facts straight
I spent 3 hours trying to get into a 10-14 w 500 io rating. Q-Q GAMES BAD COMMUNITY IS SHIT.
I just had this problem trying to get into heroic raid.. I’ve done everything on normal and learned the mechanics but since I haven’t done it before and am only 465 I can’t get in one and I’m like basically stuck cause I can’t do anything except keys to gear and I’m having this problem
Because people’s don’t want play he want get carry so hard…..
It's because guild leaders don't run keys for people. And you're wrong you're very wrong. The time for learning is not when you're doing a 16 or 17
I don’t think so, you can to some extent blame the M+ rating system also. Yes you can use it to track your own personal best but it’s used more as a gate to stop new or learning players from getting into your keys
Lol this online public multiplayer game.. play it solo or only with your irl friend 😂😂
Wow has come so far.
It's both player base and the games fault. The more punishing you make something, the more players will start to eliminate that potential punishment. Hence, the strictness of requirements.
And supposedly this is coming to Cata classic.
If you aren't about that PUG life then join a guild or community that is M+ centric. Pugging could be difficult at times but for the most part I don't run into any issues. Run your own keys/groups, get your IO up (run ALL the dungeons, this shows that you have experience), and consider running lower keys then you would like to get gear and IO. There are issues with the system but don''t let it deter or frustrate you, be patient.
You can blame WoW for the key system. If it wasn't timed, if it wasn't limited, if it didn't punish for failure, you wouldn't have these same problems.
Bro it has been like this since the day it started.
I have bo issues getting into keys but i also main either tank or healer. Raidierio is hit or miss on dps and tbeyre just si many more dps players
PGF Addon (Premade Group Filter) — Will make finding your pugs 10,000x easier. I only ever see keys with a tank and heal already inside. Or without one depending on the class I am playing.
Never hurts to put a little confidence in the note too. "Gamer dps, knows mechs" — can go a long way.
90% of the players I run into couldn't tell you what interrupts are mandatory, let alone details of boss fights. Yet you find these noobs trying to hop into a +15 constantly. They don't adjust to the scaling the same way a healer or tank does. Realizing "Everyone dies if I don't start doing this better".
My stun and fear game as a holy priest has skyrocketed from pug experiences. I don't even have an actual interrupt; but will get more out than some dps in higher keys. While dealing with both affliction at the same time. Cause lets face it. Those 90% are too incompetent to google what they can do for a weekly affix to be helpful.
Definitely does not take 3 hours to find a 10 to 14 key 467ilvl 2038 raider io and i get into groups just fine maybe 5 to 10 minutes the most.
So its definitely a you problem if you cannot find a group for a 10 in 3 hours
M+ was never designed to be easy Pug content, puging can work, but is so damn ineffectiv for playing the game.
I got super Lucky and was playing dps DH for DF and have uber Meta Status RN.
But for the love of all that is good, get yourself a guild!
All they need to do to solve this is make it so a clear ups your key by 1-3 depending on performance. A fail lowers your key by 1-5 depending on performance. You always keep your key and it floats and changes based on your skill level…..