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There are some huge changes to talents on the dragonflight alpha, which could make things better and worse at the same time. Shadowlands patch 9.2.7 is also coming this week, with a few changes to the auction house.
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00:00 – Huge Changes to Talent Swapping
00:37 – Talent changes explained
07:37 – Shadowlands Patch 927 coming this week
07:39 – Auction house changes
10:36 – PvP changes
12:01 – This week in alpha
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Of course they need a cast time for talent changes. People would have macros set up to swap stuff based on what class was coming at them in that moment.
One thing that would be really nice is like a training dummy scenario in the hub area that you go in and can hit dummies and talk to some one to reset cds, give buffs, maybe a boss button for lust for classes without it so you can try things and not have to wait between testing things and making it an scenario should make it that it cant be abused
Rested talents take 3 seconds in a rested area? UNACCEPTABLE CONDITION!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!
Maybe they can remove or reduce the cast time in rested areas? That would be a nice QoL change to that particular aspect of the talent swap mechanic.
I agree with you. I think if you swap talents it shouldn’t have a cast time in rested areas. Otherwise, w/e, I don’t change my talents that often as I am mainly a PvP player. But I do very much like the ability to save different talent trees kinda like you can save transmog outfits. I think that is a very awesome idea. Especially for classes like Blood DK’s and Disc Priest’s who may not want to be “the tank” or “the healer” but wanna run that spec. Personally I don’t like playing my Disc Priest and having to list as dps and quickly change to healer spec once in the BG. Just because I prefer those spells over Shadow but I don’t wanna be a dedicated healer. And same idea with my Blood DK. I realize that that isn’t how it works. But it does affect which talents are used.
But this is just what I think. Let me know what you think by commenting down below. LOL
Thanx for another great video Kelani!
I would love to have both but if i have to choose, i would rather be able to change my talents everywhere… it makes it way easier and fun for me that i always change my talents.
new talents are fucking stupid and are a massive step backwards compared to the old system
Still trying to get the most from my destro lock. Xaalette on Khadgar…any thoughts kelani
So I can post a tide spray linen for 200k then Go on my alt to buy it to transfer gold to my other character. ?
Personally I laugh at the notion that a cast time is a trade off for changing talents on the fly. I have mental wounding from respecing back in classic wow to one talent point off the build i meant to go and having to sell my first born and a kidney to respec again. Good change tho
I have to disagree with you on the cast time being necessary. People would abuse it if they could change them on the fly. Especially in PVP. 5 second cast time to change a talent is far more convenient than having to hearth or fly back to town to change talents. So I dont see how its a "Negative Compromise". Its 100% necessary.
Gonna reiterate others here.. cast time for talent swaps is fine but not in rested areas. Edit: to expand though.. I tend to be a set and forget kind of player in terms of talents so.. it may not affect me much either way
Cast time makes sense-Or else it would be so fucked up in world pvp x'D nice changes over all
I think the cast time for swapping talents is so minor it shouldn't matter and it's not a big deal, to me it makes perfect sense and se no issues with it
The cast time is ok, even in rested zones. Maybe if they changed anything just make it 1.5 seconds in rested zones.
I stopped a while back, might get back into it when new expansion comes, but personally, 3 sec cast time don't bother me exactly, but if its applied in the rest area that bothers me bc i dont mind going back to a rest area etc bc you still need other things in those areas so again if its applied there id rather have it the retail old way, but if i find myself swapping more due to the new class i will find the 3sec cast highly acceptable, but once i get comfortable idt id be switching much. You put it very well with the comprise explanation.
it probly for pvp since you can exist combat and switch talent and maybe reset the cooldown
Hey, kelani, could you upload a run of the newest alpha dungeons? youre legit the only one who uploads them in 4k and i dont wanna have to watch in 1080P(easant)
I think I can speak for everyone when I say the cast time is moot. Because the alternative is a time-gated charge system lmao do you remember the covenant trees At the start of shadowlands ? Lmao
I dont care about the cast time…. But the tome is SUPER irritating.
Minmaxing in raid just got another requirement lol
5:00 basically nothing should have a cast time in rested areas, starting with mounts and teleportation spells, for instance.
Still no solo queue. I'm done with this game… Good luck everyone.
I like this change more than what we already have.
There's no point of the auction I'll spin on the app if you can't sell things on it, Like the old one.
I fully agree with you on the point of talent should be freely switched while you're in main city. I'm fine with the cast time when you're out in the world.
This change is great, 3 second to swap in rest area is fine, avoids spamming changes
way too much thought about a damn cast time… dude… it's a win.
Cute drakthir😁 well it's an improvement. We needed things to fall in place well. That's a new emproovement.
great.
so people will expect you to change your talents literally every pull now.
fantastic.
I don't care about a cast time lol Im happy with being able to change my build anywhere thats not a safezone or capital. The whole insta gratification and convenient mindset needs to back off. A 3 second cast to change x amount of abilities aint crap. Be happy we can change our build outside a safezone.
There's probably only a cast bar because the coding needs to simulate your character in a safezone which was how the devs originally wrote their scripts 🤷🏾♂️ There must be a reason why there's a cast bar when ur out in the world. But still, i don't care. Im happy with it
Dude, c'mon. You're complaining about that 3~5 second cast to change talents anywhere? Holy moly. Players will complain at the SLIGHTEST POSSIBLE INCONVENIENCE. Sheesh.
I think a cast time is a good idea, people will likely try to abuse mechanics by hot swapping to retain benifits of a buff or something
Completely understand the cast time and would even argue it to be longer or even better just no swapping in a dungeon or raid with no cast time elsewhere
I prefer without cast time, only in rested areas. Swapping on the fly seems like something which could be required and would take away the planning your build aspect.
Changing aoe to single target for mythic plus would be awesome.
I think you are absolutely right. Why is it blizzards practice to give us something nice only to make it convoluted or then immediately kick us in the metaphorical dick?
I don't see the whats the big deal about the cast time being added, it's a better system overall, and I very much doubt that a short cast time (regardless of whether I'm on a rest area or not) will have a impact on it at all, I honestly don't think it's going to be something that is noticed that much, and it will prevent weird shit happening in out world pvp, imagine a rogue vanishing and stepping out of combat just to reset its talents completely, that would be weird as hell.
The thing I'm most curious of is what the cast time triggers, is it what wipes the talent set and allows you to re spend everything and then you use one of your presets to activate your desired talents, or is it a cast time for both?
You also forgot to mention that talent swapping will remain restricted in some areas of the game as rbgs, arenas and mythic+.
Quite crying about a SMALL price to pay to be able to swap talents ANYWHERE(almost) I'm just fine with the cast time requirement. KEEP IT IN. Starting to sound like Bellular moaning about everything not being instant…
The very concept of talent swapping has always seemed ridiculous to me. However, the notion that you're limited to a specific number of talents has also seemed ridiculous. Skill advancement should be tied to use (rather than a global character level) and talent availability should be tied to a particular skill track.
As to your complaint about the timer being required in resting areas, this seems less like an imposed downside, and more like just a more simplified way of consistently handling the feature that is not based on presuppositions from its previous mode of function.
"It's going to be great", hmmm, yeah we have to see about that!
Dude, is just a 3s cast
Lol gl to Blizzard and balancing all of those talents.
as my teams insib this makes me a tad sad. not hearing "Tia do the thing" sadden me
Imagine complaining about a cast time
DH talent tree when?! 😀
Let me guess still have to go to SW or org to turn on or off warmode still also just because its useless
There is already a cast time when changing spec anyway, so it doesnt really matter.
Tbh I feel that being able to switch tjem out everywhere at no cost makes talents feel very not meaningful, I prefer the way it is now where it is easy to swap but you have to plan a bit ahead for it (plus inscription getting some importance)
Poor baby, you gotta wait an extra few seconds when switching talents. Here's a tissue to wipe your tears. Seriously, the cast timer with the talents isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.
Instead of banning boosting they give them chat channel…