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I've learned to login and have fun. Play whatever class, do whatever content. Ignore the bullshit meta and min/max crap. If it's not fun, play something else that is. The world has changed a lot since 2004 and Classic made that very clear. They gave us the OG game everyone praises so much and look how that turned out. We can blame the devs for their decisions over the years, but with the internet and players being older, shit is just different. It's not the game's fault, it's life's fault. Things change. It is what it is and for some strange reason, WoW players funnel that sad truth back towards the game. That in itself is pretty sad because that probably means they've spent quite a lot of time on WoW while life changed around them.
You have all the ability in the world to play any game you want, literally any game (except maybe some on hardware not emulated yet?) at your fingertips at any time. you can always just make a game, a game. you don't need a developer to make one. if golden eye is the best time ever like you kinda cheekily said at the beginning, get your friends and go play it. they don't have time? go play by yourself and just explore or pretend to kill people. your mind if your own, and you can relive moments like this forever. go play wow classic, don't stream it, and play until 4 in the morning and consider just trying to stay up the whole night. kids, jobs, partners, it can all be worked with if you really want it.
I miss when people could just move on off the nostalgia and realize that the games we played or things we did really weren't what was so special. It was just being a kid and doing things with your buddies with ZERO responsibilities. We're just able to continue to play the games we did back then and ultimately live in a prison of "I miss when…"
Oh wait…. that hasnt happened.
Now I can finally explain myself why beeing 38 and playing on private vanilla/tbc servers. This is where I just relax and don't play for the achievements. I am not even forced to play, as I dont need to pay subscribtions!
That anecdote about being 9, just playing games at a friends house, in anticipation of pizza being the best life was ever gonna get hit hard.
Wait where did that sister joke come from, was that just a riff off the dome
24:10 lmao
me too dude me too.. When you entered the game for the first time ( for me jan 2007) that feeling can never be replaced. The music …the memories the friends..
Played from 2005-2018. So many great memories and in-game accomplishments, so many tears from laughing my ass off about things you just had to be there for. I found real community through WoW back then. The sense of pride and release when overcoming a challenge in a team-based setting was unrivaled to me throughout many of the expansions.
One day while doing dailies/weeklies in BfA by myself as had become the norm, I realized I was on this pointless hamster wheel. I was doing the same things over and over again with no sense of adventure or accomplishment. My friends had all drifted from the game and I was clearly only going through the motions at that point.
I fell off the WoW wagon onto the Destiny 2 wagon and after several months of mastering that game I found myself in the same routine of having to log in just to do a rotation of chores to remain relevant. Sure it was fun to chase the awesome loot for a bit and the gameplay is fun but once they went to the seasonal it just became this FOMO machine.
I know, I know, this has been said by all the YouTubers before, but, I still grieve the loss of that community from WoW where we would just jump around Orgrimmar chatting about anything and everything, and had never even met in real life. I occasionally get the urge to reinstall and resubscribe but I know I'll just be getting my hopes up.
It's too bad Blizzard became enchanted with the pursuit of profit rather than the pursuit of making great games.
RIP Glory Days of WoW and the unforgettable Barrens chat🌷
also this has nothing to do with "vanilla/tbc" as i imagine many of the comments will focus on.. for me WoW was "just a game" when I joined at the very end of the WotLK expansion just before Cataclysm's release (cata is when I leveled up seriously), and back then Cata for me was "just a game" and even it's raids and dungeons still had many of those "pre-dopamine hit" empty rooms or corridors, streaming wasn't a thing yet, and i didn't even know of the existance of wowhead, guides, addons, min/maxing or things that turned the game into less of a game and instead into something akin to a job and sucked the wonder/fun or "gameness" out of it, or simply turned it into something you watch a neckbeard play.
I think alot of these systems are added to give people that don't want to Raid or Mythic+ something to do. I mean I love Mythic+ personally I think it's the best system Blizzard has ever added to the game. In this era of wow that is where I get my enjoyment. I would personally want Blizzard to spend WAY more resources fleshing out the M+ system but that's just me. Blizzard is so stuck in this mentality it has to have 1000 systems for didn't types of players. This really waters down the game. Gear should come from difficulty. The difficulty should ramp but it should come from the fights themselves. Rep grinds and barrowed power really was the dark age of wow. I think Blizzard understands this now.
The Game of Thrones joke killed me
On the bright side I got the Ragnaros mount in heroic firelands today 😅
Have you played Warframe? Their levelling system is similar to what you were describing for a hypothetical WoW expansion. It takes months to get to the highest rank and while it isn't your typical MMO, it's still fairly active, free-to-play on PC and still regularly updated.
Come play twow, but don't tell anyone
I will always argue that the main aspect of MP games should be MP content and the interactions they brought. For MMOs, interacting with the community is very important as that is one of the main tools of immersion to enhance the experience of a digital, online world. Talking with other players shouldn't be an inconvenience, it should be like what we have IRL: the potential to meet a lifelong friend(s) or start up small talk. If the MMO is being made into a SP game by the devs because the player(s) are treating it and desire SP-based content, then why play an MMO? It makes no sense. This would be different if it was a SP game with MP elements, but for MMOs one of the genre's greatest strengths is that we the community is itself a feature as it is an element to just be there.
EDIT: Another issue I find in these games is that they are now heavily story oriented. This may sound stupid but if you played an MMO with as many expansions as WoW that are story driven, then it becomes bloated in content and narrative that it intimidates new players from getting into it. There is a video by J1mmy where he made the perfect comparison where getting into WoW and its stories was like binge watching all of the Marvel movies, you're not going to get far into the journey. Also doesn't help that every other expansion has some potentially world ending threat that makes veteran players go, "Just have the world end already and put us out of our misery." Legion was the best time to let go of this trend but no, SL had to screw us over with a new (And out of no where) threat that broke the lore. Another negative about the story is that every player is the chosen one/hero, it makes the story feel less special if everyone is this uber, mega special awesome person.
I let my subscription lapse last week. I'm sure I'll be back, but I agree with most of this video, and that's why I just lapsed. Perhaps I differ on one point: I'm not a big fan of the "social" aspect of the game (anymore), but if you can call the AH "social", which it is, because it's people exchanging valuables, then I guess I'm a social player. I like to sell surplus loot or buy needed mats.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The people playing this game just aren’t capable of any sort of change. They’ve been fed highly accessible content that they’ve grown a reliance on it.
This isn’t just WoW though, many games across different genres have been dumbed down so to speak to cater to the lowest common denominator. Any semblance of difficulty or permanent choice is removed. And if it’s there, there’s a shitstorm on their forums.
I don’t think this is fixable in a sense, I think it’s the end result of many different things happening both online and off.
Idk shit sucks
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Another “I don’t wanna grow up” video. Some people don’t have the mental capacity for adulthood. They cling to the fake reality they lived as a child. You were a privileged little child living your best life while other children had to literally starve. This will be the last sob story I see in my feed from this man-child. ✌️
One of my favourite things in WoW is still just levelling a new character and running Wailing Caverns with a level-appropriate group
What a high quality reaction video, not just with your face in the corner but actual analysis clips of your own. Great work man.
honestly my biggest gripe with modern gaming is that you cant have fun if ur not winning. like 10 years ago in league you could easily get randoms in a lobby to commit to some stupid strat like 5 tanks knowing full well that theres like an 90% chance ur gonna lose cuz of it, but now even in normals you have to be playing the most optimized meta pro strats otherwise ur just gonna deal with 4 kids on ur team throwing a temper tantrum that you didnt google the best build before the match, of alternatively if u need a wow analogy even in a normal dungeon youll have one dickhead tank who pulls half the dungeon before the healers even loaded in, die, and then flame them for not being good enough.
oh my fucking god is this guy ever going to stop CRYING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT WOW JESUS CHRIST YOU ARE SO PATHETIC. GET OVER IT HOLY SHIT
Sometimes I wonder if a reboot may be the key to steer expectations, but keep the general lore in tact. I don't mean WoW2 or anything, I think that would steer expectations in the "Bigger, badder, better" which is not feasible. But relaunch the game in a new perspective, maybe a different time, or even a different era of the lore. The world and land masses can still be a framework, but go back to the basics of building the world. Make the new player a nobody existing in it, and get new characters and fresh stories that have not been over-kneaded. Then slow down how fast people can get through the content. They can make a lot of roses along the journey.
Always stop to smell the roses…
I spent 5 long years in my teens and into my 20's chasing the dragon of WoW. Like, the feeling of playing WoW again, but with other single player games and MMORPGs. Honestly only playing OSRS and grinding in that game has come close to it. And FromSoftware games, tbh. Everything else always falls short. I did get close to it again with Dragonflight but burnt myself out doing M+ with randos and I just quit playing until the next expansion. I'm never doing M+ again, learned my lesson. Getting gear was cool but not at the cost of my sanity as a Shaman healer. I also got blamed in a guild raid for being the reason we couldn't pass whatever boss lays those flame traps in heroic. Nah turns out everyone else sucked ass since me and another rando priest healed a 12 man group through the entire raid in 2 nights. It was EASY.
Fuck people, man.
I miss when WoW was just just a game too, instead of a required lifestyle to keep up on the gear treadmill. It sucks now. It's probably a large contributor to my extreme depression at 32 today.
I didn't have any friends who played WoW. My cousin introduced me during O-G Vanilla but he promptly quit due to his addiction to the game. All my friends played consoles. Friends I made in game would stop logging constantly. I have great memories but no tangible WoW friendships. A new crop of friends were made with Vanilla Classic but many ceased playing and don't log on Discord. Very sad, but great in-game memories. I stopped playing mid-Wrath Classic. I have no interest in the game any more unless Vanilla Fresh is launched. SoD or Hardcore just isn't the same.
Guild Wars 2 is the answer to all our prayers…
The Darkest Dungeon Background music was a good touch