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World of Warcraft Dragonflight introduces to a new villain in Iridikron, and he looks to be the main antagonist of the franchise heading into the upcoming World Soul Saga, probably being the big bad guy through The War Within, Midnight and Last Titan. But has he got the chops? Is he really a cut above the usual Warcraft fare and can he reach Arthas or Garrosh levels of awesome? We pit him up against the LEAST popular villain in WoW, Zovaal the Jailer from Shadowlands, and show how Blizz have made an interesting villain at last and avoided their past mistakes
Check out Flying Buttress who made the Jailer’s Plan montage for us:
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Let Me Tell You Just How Smart The Jailer Is Reddit post:
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I'm not sure how the Jailer gets 0/10 for "Are they a dumb looking robot?" – surely he nails this category, 10/10?
jailer 2/10, incarnates 4/10, garrosh 7/10
Iridikron IS a way better villain, especially so as a long term one. But….his first line is the exact same, deep gravelly voice that all the others had. So sometimes that's okay?
The jailer plan summary was gold 😂 !
i am pretty sure i ve done the whole questline and end of campaign with my main, but i havent seen malfurion's return yet? Ysera returned to Ardenweald but the portal closed behind her. Malfurion never appeared. what am i missing?
I wanted to play that polybius game. Life is full of disappointments eh? Guess tally got the last one…
I'm just a fry cook.
Iridikron still lacks a good introspective scene on his love for dragonkind and his hatred of titans, and that should have hapoened already
I mean the jailer also being "I have never failed." Puts us to think on the 9D insterdrimensional chesscheckerspoker tournament as well… if he WAS an opportunist then it should be more like "All the seeds I have sown, all the gambits made finally it all pays off in this moment." So we can at least maybe get some short story or novel optics on things he tried that DIDN'T work. not "oh I never failed ever."
"A divided cosmos will not survive what is to come.."
I believe is actually a brilliant nod and foreshadowing towards midnight and the void. Most of xal'ataths moves are COSMIC void. Zovaal was talking about the cosmos as a whole what if the first ones knew of the cosmic voids plans and knew what was eventually going to come to azeroth?
We defeat iridikron and pull off his mask revealing he’s a dumb little robot.
I dont mean to be negative but having someone better than Zovaal is not an accomplishment..
An Antagonist needs to be significantly more "dangerous" than the Protagonist to allow for there being a story to tell, where the Protagonist has to overcome that gulf between them to win.
It doesn't mean the Antagonist needs to be overpowered in all aspects. Just "better" in one that is, at the beginning of the story, too wide a gap for the "Good Guys" to see a way over.
Superman is OP as hell. Yet his greatest nemesis has always been a human. Plain old human. Who had a brain. Lex.
So us super badass Heroes of the Horde and Alliance, working together at times of crisis to save our shared world… we're OP as hell. Especially now. We've "seen to" everything from lesser Gods to First One created Construct Deities to Fruit-Loop-Insane Dragon Aspects… to trogs. Iridikron KNOWS we're tougher than he is if he went at us directly RIGHT NOW. He's just one dragon with infused Elemental powers. A danger to ONE of us heroes one on one. But not against a group. Even if all three remaining Incarnates joined up, there's STILL enough "Heroes of Azeroth" to see "right about them" with enough "mana left over to make snacks".
His "advantage" is that knowledge, and having that knowledge and self-awareness? Makes him "potentially" dangerous. He's old as hell, saw the start of the whole mess, and is patient. And since he IS a dragon (an elemental being that gained a mortal form that can then be empowered by ANY or even ALL of the Six Forms of Magic)… his potential is extreme.
The potential of any Dragon is just the same. Aspect or regular. Hell, we even saw it in a DRACTHYR, a mix of Dragon and Mortal not even Dragonkin and Drakonoids are. The POTENTIAL for Iridikron is something else… and above all else – he's wise enough to know his current limitations and what to do to get around that.
When next we meet it may mean the old 40 man Raids have to return to deal with him (kidding… but nor really. I much preferred 40 mans to 25…).
Intelligence alone is not enough. Knowledge alone is not enough. POWER alone is not enough. All you need is WISDOM in your own SELF knowledge and in how to USE what tools you have available.
That makes an Antagonist TRUELY dangerous. Sauron, Lex Luther, Skynet… the greatest "potential" evils in literature and film have had WISDOM. Not perfect wisdom, but enough to make a gulf between them and their "righteous enemies" at the beginning seem overwhelming.
tali your skin looks incredible in this video
You're so right.
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Fandaniel tho…. 🤮☠️
Ice king jailer would have been awesome. With Gunter as second to last boss where he transforms to Orgalorg in the last phase.
I LOVE your content, thank you so much for all this
The fact he had us almost waste time in abberus shows us how smart he is. Along with the sundered flame!
Honestly I love Iridikron so far. I really like that his motivation isn't some grand scheme for taking over the world or 5D chess, but rather it's downright petty. He wants revenge, and he's let it consume him to the point he's willing to hurt those that were once important to him, hurt his home and his family, just to get it. I'm also hoping we'll see more of Fyrakk (I have a theory he'll come back as an elemental and that's definitely not just wishful thinking of course ;-;) too as I really just outright enjoyed him as a villain. He has a flair that a lot of WoW villains lack and I always find any scene he's in fun. (E.g. I never skip the scene after killing Smolderon where he thanks the player because I find it so fun how in that moment it's made obvious to us we just accidentally sped up his plans. I also love how he just outright mocks two of the bosses while we fight them.)
Iridikron wins because he's willing to walk away from us. Zovaal didn't dare walk away from us because we would have seen the Primus shoulder-deep in his ass, using him like a sock puppet.
First time I saw the Jailer, I thought he was going to shove Baine in his chest hole. Which, to fair, would have been pretty cool.