Mythic Plus Tips I Wish I'd Learned Sooner – Lessons for KSM Shadowlands Season 1



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Mythic Plus tips and WeakAuras that I found to be the most helpful on my path to getting KSM for the first season of Shadowlands M+! Early in Shadowlands I struggled to time keys above a ten even in organized groups, and after practice, getting some WeakAuras and adjusting my build, timing every 15 became possible. Some of these lessons apply specifically to Prideful and Keystone Master Season One, but a lot of them I’ll take with me to future seasons.

In the video section on the Prideful and Mob Percentage I wrote on-screen that two WeakAuras are required- actually, it’s just one WeakAura but you also need the MDT addon for it to work. I recommend it and MDT is useful in it’s own right for planning, sharing and viewing routes.

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Mythic Dungeon Tools Addon (REQUIRED FOR ABOVE WA TO WORK) https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/mythic-dungeon-tools
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Timestamps
0:00 – Why You Should Do Keystone Master
0:29 – Push Weeks Make a Big Difference
1:18 – Specialized Builds and Legendaries for M+
2:03 – Consumables
2:38 – Gamechanging Prideful WeakAura
3:37 – Quaking WeakAura
4:11 – Sound Cues in WeakAuras for Class Mechanics
5:11 – Optimizing Sound
6:02 – Stuns and Kicks are Key
6:39 – Record Yourself
7:21 – Using CDs
7:56 – The Benefit of PUGs

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49 thoughts on “Mythic Plus Tips I Wish I'd Learned Sooner – Lessons for KSM Shadowlands Season 1”

  1. Another youtuber posted a similar video that was about movement during combat. Applicable mainly for caster specs. She pointed out that unknowingly players move more than necessary. For example moving a couple of yards to dodge a mechanic when all you need to move is a single step. This time lost could be used for casting. Mages can blink to dodge without losing casting time. And if you have to move pop a spell that allows casting while moving or instead cast your instant spells when moving.

    Best way to know is record and review your gameplay.

    Very good video.

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  2. Man, I feel, you, Hazel, I'm also terrible at using apotheosis lol Holy Word: Salvation is so cool but it's so bad on dungeons I guess i kinda not use apotheosis that often out of spite xd

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  3. Do you have a quaking wa with sound if it turns red? I swear the one I had last expansion was just like that but then the sound for it just stopped working. I hate the quiet versions as they dont grab my attention.

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  4. Very good video (as always) thank you. I find it especially cool of you, that you also show, when you have failed at something. Other Wow players that upload their content onto youtube just seem to show how they excel at everything and seem infallible. I like the way you openly admit to disliking certain mechanics. It makes you more credible and all the more likeable. Greetings from Germany.

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  5. hi hazel,
    download omnic cd addon.its shown up personnal defensive cd is good if you are healing and know what tank using big cds or smaller ones and you will know that. Its helps saving tank and not overhealing the team.

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  6. QE Dungeon Tips addon
    When you're first learning the dungeons it is super nifty. It is a small moveable text box that tells you important interrupts/priority targets just in case you need a refresher.

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  7. Something that I was also doing that I noticed in the clip, don’t run away from the tentacles when you’re trying dodge them. The closer you are, the smaller the circle you have to run becomes and you’ll get where you need to be faster 🙂

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  8. Everyone else: Keystone Masters.
    Me, a DPS: signs up to 8000 groups, declined from 7999, joins a team with a dude that wipes 9/13 times, 8/10 groups full of leavers, trolls, DC, healers that cannot sustain the dungeon, people at +13 that stand in crags or explosions and don't even try to move, flamers, homophobes, etc YES, VERY EASY TO GROUP!! :/ I'm so desperate and struggling to get any groups to the point I'll take anything at this point XD

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  9. I find learning to tank makes me understand the mechanics a lot better than just reading guides and do healings. This is especially true for important interrupts, notable mobs, and where those mobs are.

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  10. I'd highly recommend the weakaura for Mots for the maze.

    1) saves time. Even if you know how to do it properly it will still calculate it faster than you can.

    2) I've run into situations where it looks like there are 2 correct answers, for instance 2 full leafs with border 1 full flower with border 1 hollow leaf with border. Like, does the game care more about the flower or the hollow leaf?

    Stuff like that. I feel like that shouldn't happen but its happened a few times in our keys early on in the expansion and cost us a lot of time running back.

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  11. Another suggestion id give is in ToP when fighting the 1st boss is to play to your groups strengths and not go on an ego trip.

    A friend who Mythics with me is incredibly proud and does not take being anything but 1st place dps well, he generally is but he will do anything to keep it as such, for instance the 1st boss in ToP if he gets taken to the lower arena he will pop all cooldowns against his opponent so he can get the damage buff for winning the duel… Where it would have been far better to have saved CDs and just stood there dpsing each other or have the lower dps player keep sitting for the guaranteed crits to get back to the fight faster and pop CDs on boss.

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  12. I got a realy good tip i saw when you showed your items that clasic look of stats and the thing that hides your ilvl and more info is from the dejacharacterstats addon it was updated at the stat was nice but now is anoying to expand and colaps the menú learned you can turn it back to normal in ita options turning off the "classic" option

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  13. My overall recommendations to any role is Interrupt tracker, makes it easier to see who can interrupt an important spell and if no one can you have time to prepare yourself with a defensive cd and not just flatline thinking someone got that.
    To tanks overall, when making or finding a rotue look at it ahead of time and try planning out your defensive/offensive cds, this might help you using your cds and make sure you always have something to respond with.
    To dps, if possible ask the tank to share his route, look at the big packs and try to remember them this way you won't go into the harder or bigger packs without your cds available.

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  14. one great tip has a healer is, knowing that you are not GOD, you can't heal everything , triage, if you see a DPS using a CD pick other target to heal first … OmniCD Addon allows you to track "important" CDs

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  15. My biggest struggle is pugs rn, if you dont have the io you get the worst players. Also the group finder tool is outdated, and it takes around 30min to make the group, but I almost always get that one player usually tank or heals just because I'm tired of waiting I take them and they are usually the ones that do the worst and end up leaving.

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  16. a big part of m+ is planning out cd usage. by the time you are running 15 keys you should know when you are gonna need big heals or there is a big pull that you can get a lot of value out of your dps/tanking cd's.

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  17. I would do more of Mythic if it wasn't timed. Dps checks are fine. But I have no interest in racing. Sure I can appreciate not wasting time, but Mythic is just awful for me.

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  18. what do you do when your rio is low while you can complete 15+ keys with friends who you need to carry, BUT cant get into other runs because people dont invite low rio. and doing pugs with same rio is ridicilous: as a tank i usually outheal the healer and have to explain most mechanics to people. how are people so shit at this game while relying on rio? is rio 200% failure or 100%?

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  19. I would say also use defensives before the emergency happens. Pride is at 10 – 15 stacks? use dmg reduction . If you wait until its at 20 stacks and you are at 10% health and only then use it you will most likely. It's my biggest pet peeve when people sit on their dr's until the last moment or worse die without using them at all (excluding 1 shots).

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  20. Is there any tips for someone playing the worst tank per the "meta" in the game?

    I have a destro lock but my main has and will always be Warrior 🙁

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  21. i'm definitely one of those who never uses their CD's. even since vanilla, i always think "i don't need to use my aoe cd on these four mobs, i'm 120% sure i'll get in a fight in 5 seconds with 5 or more" and end up clearing the whole place without using them.

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