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If they cut Shadowlands short, abandon it really, to try to rush out the next expansion then they may as well shut down the servers because it's over. It'll be on a downhill slide they'll never recover from if they do that again.
What do you mean, 9.3 is when it all gets fixed, and the expansion is finally perfect. Right? Every .3 patch is guaranteed the best state of the game with no imbalances or issues.
9:05 That's all well and good, but they tried that with BfA. That was designed to pull the reigns back a bit, but they couldn't help but cock everything up by throwing N'zoth in like a throwaway boss.
I have zero faith in this writing team to produce anything engaging as either an intimate little high fantasy story or a grandiose spectacle without being mired by their stupid decisions.
You all have too much faith in the people behind this game to actually bring what you want Warcraft to what you think it could be. All the creativity has moved on.
It would be aesthetically better if you guys could angle your desks towards the camera, while having a discussion with each other, because it makes the viewer feel like they're included. The way it looks now, the viewer sees the sides of your faces, and we're watching 2 guys talking at each other, making us feel like we're invading the room here. Include the viewing audience a bit more with your discussion, instead of just having what feels and looks like a private discussion between 2 guys. Just my 2 cents.
Getting out will remove us from the bad(imo) story, but then the legacy will still be there. The lore is still there. It's still already been explained, the fantasticalness has already gone. The main benefit is that it'll mean blizzard will add new systems (because theyre stupid and love systems). So since we already have this content in existence, I think they should probably do another patch that tidies things up and wraps bits up nicely.
what wow really needs, is a hard reset, aka wow 2. with new engine & updated combat, mostly action combat, but ranged classes can get tab targeting as optional for a bit easier time. after shadowlands that's pretty perfect time actually too. since SL time flow, is a lot slower… so when we get bk to azeroth, 100 years might have passed & Turalyon screwed up whole world, with his holy crusade
it's crazy because this game could be amazing, they simply chose to put systems in place that make in repetitive and boring, imagine playing right now, without torghast spam, renown grind, strict covenants. I dont know why they think grind is content
THIS! This was so on point! I really can't understand Blizz's resistance to what players want… all their competition is doing it and having success while they go down more and more… Give us Warcraft!
If WOW expansions / patches were not soo linear in terms of content / progression and heavily story driven they could get away with longer expansion periods and not have to sacrifice cutting major patches that end up jarring and making the story worse.
Maybe do like Final Fantasy does and make an entire story line filled with many dungeons with your core system, with the ending already made, and that be your #.0? Then tie up loose ends in the future patches, while adding to the world?
Hope they cut Shadowlands short and just work on next expansion as that kind of extra time is what allowed Legion to be so damn good. All of the new good will they earned during Legion is dissipating and they need something good again. For those that do play Classic, at least they have BC to tide them over some.
I recommend picking up the ME remastered trilogy in the meantime to keep you busy. What is everyone else playing?
If they screw up the next expansion, they probably will actually suffer finally financially big time. Players have got burned by beta BFA, and what seems to be beta Shadowlands. FFXIV has a great expansion coming out, and is still going strong with Shadowbringers. Actiblizz needs to step it up. The reason they suck so bad is Ion and the big Boob are pocketing too much money. Money that they should be trying to use to help cover expenses for the game. Instead they’d rather line their own deep pockets, and suck off the investors. Look at the interviews. They show time and time again they don’t care about the players. Everything the players say gets ignored for the most part. Actiblizz does not care about WoW anymore. Actihell wants to push for mobile games over PC games. They want the extra money off micro transactions, so the big Boob and Ion can pocket more money, and cheat the workers and players as always.
They can never be as good as the workers for FFXIV. Ever. It’s over for WoW soon at this rate. People get burned one more time on a bad expansion, and it’s over. That’s three bad expansions back to back. It’s not something they can afford to let happen. They need a legion good expansion to truly save this game.
Shadowlands feels like fanfiction. Can't stand the lore of this expansion.
If they cut Shadowlands short, abandon it really, to try to rush out the next expansion then they may as well shut down the servers because it's over. It'll be on a downhill slide they'll never recover from if they do that again.
What do you mean, 9.3 is when it all gets fixed, and the expansion is finally perfect. Right? Every .3 patch is guaranteed the best state of the game with no imbalances or issues.
The next Expansion will remove the HORDE and ALLIANCE, it will be a huge expansion and they will do 9.3 to buy time for that.
9:05
That's all well and good, but they tried that with BfA. That was designed to pull the reigns back a bit, but they couldn't help but cock everything up by throwing N'zoth in like a throwaway boss.
I have zero faith in this writing team to produce anything engaging as either an intimate little high fantasy story or a grandiose spectacle without being mired by their stupid decisions.
You all have too much faith in the people behind this game to actually bring what you want Warcraft to what you think it could be. All the creativity has moved on.
Hope you're enjoying FFXIV as much as I am 🙂
It would be aesthetically better if you guys could angle your desks towards the camera, while having a discussion with each other, because it makes the viewer feel like they're included. The way it looks now, the viewer sees the sides of your faces, and we're watching 2 guys talking at each other, making us feel like we're invading the room here. Include the viewing audience a bit more with your discussion, instead of just having what feels and looks like a private discussion between 2 guys. Just my 2 cents.
Getting out will remove us from the bad(imo) story, but then the legacy will still be there. The lore is still there. It's still already been explained, the fantasticalness has already gone. The main benefit is that it'll mean blizzard will add new systems (because theyre stupid and love systems).
So since we already have this content in existence, I think they should probably do another patch that tidies things up and wraps bits up nicely.
Normally I'd be angry about a shorter expansion but…. Fuck shadowlands.
I want these legendaries gone
I want these covenants gone
I'm TIRED of this BS borrowed power.
For once if an expansion launches with borrowed power I simply won't buy it, thankfully I have BC and then Wrath I could enjoy.
what wow really needs, is a hard reset, aka wow 2.
with new engine & updated combat, mostly action combat, but ranged classes can get tab targeting as optional for a bit easier time.
after shadowlands that's pretty perfect time actually too.
since SL time flow, is a lot slower… so when we get bk to azeroth, 100 years might have passed & Turalyon screwed up whole world, with his holy crusade
it's crazy because this game could be amazing, they simply chose to put systems in place that make in repetitive and boring, imagine playing right now, without torghast spam, renown grind, strict covenants. I dont know why they think grind is content
YES, the Cannon needs to be Fired.
Just let it die ffs. Played for 15 years and have absolutely no urge to log in anymore.
THIS! This was so on point! I really can't understand Blizz's resistance to what players want… all their competition is doing it and having success while they go down more and more… Give us Warcraft!
If WOW expansions / patches were not soo linear in terms of content / progression and heavily story driven they could get away with longer expansion periods and not have to sacrifice cutting major patches that end up jarring and making the story worse.
WoW, "Literalizing the metaphor since WoD."
Maybe do like Final Fantasy does and make an entire story line filled with many dungeons with your core system, with the ending already made, and that be your #.0? Then tie up loose ends in the future patches, while adding to the world?
Hope they cut Shadowlands short and just work on next expansion as that kind of extra time is what allowed Legion to be so damn good. All of the new good will they earned during Legion is dissipating and they need something good again. For those that do play Classic, at least they have BC to tide them over some.
I recommend picking up the ME remastered trilogy in the meantime to keep you busy. What is everyone else playing?
If it wasn't for HS' bgs i don't think i'd be caring anymore about Blizzard after 10+ years
'The worst of Zack Snyder' is a funny description, when people usually say garbage like Man of Steel is his best.
If they screw up the next expansion, they probably will actually suffer finally financially big time. Players have got burned by beta BFA, and what seems to be beta Shadowlands.
FFXIV has a great expansion coming out, and is still going strong with Shadowbringers. Actiblizz needs to step it up.
The reason they suck so bad is Ion and the big Boob are pocketing too much money. Money that they should be trying to use to help cover expenses for the game. Instead they’d rather line their own deep pockets, and suck off the investors.
Look at the interviews. They show time and time again they don’t care about the players. Everything the players say gets ignored for the most part.
Actiblizz does not care about WoW anymore. Actihell wants to push for mobile games over PC games. They want the extra money off micro transactions, so the big Boob and Ion can pocket more money, and cheat the workers and players as always.
They can never be as good as the workers for FFXIV. Ever. It’s over for WoW soon at this rate.
People get burned one more time on a bad expansion, and it’s over. That’s three bad expansions back to back. It’s not something they can afford to let happen. They need a legion good expansion to truly save this game.