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Talking about the wildly different new Plunderstorm game mode on the WoW Client, Trial of Style, new Dragonflight expansion meta achievements and more! This show includes discussion of the WoW news of the week and answering questions. If you have any questions that you’d like answered in a Saturday News, include the word ‘question’ and leave them as comments!
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Timestamps
0:00 – New Trial of Style up!
0:36 – Plunderstorm basics
2:14 – first impressions
2:47 – Why Plunderstorm is Controversial
6:33 – Fathom Pet Twitch Drop
6:53 – Meta Achievement Mania!
8:42 – what I’ve been up to
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i just quest,die,quest,die lol
In the same boat of hating plunderstorm at first go. It drops you into a new game mode with assets you're familiar with, but everything is out of place. It took me a few matches before realizing you could rebind the keys and searching for the autorun toggle. The "drop" at the start doesn't feel good because it's reminiscent of the stupid hypogryph flapping quests and how awkward that mechanic felt (especially after how fluid dragonriding feels now, vehicle movement of the past is so clunky). As a non PVPer, the anxiety of being chased and dying over and over again is never fun and not how i'd like to spend my time hunting for cosmetics.
I'm so frustrated they added all these meta achievements with mounts attached… And didn't add the mounts into the game at all! I haven't seen anyone mention it, either, besides just other players (like no word from blue posts/devs or WoWhead) so it just seems really broken to me. Right now all the hotfixes seem to be Plunderstorm related while I'm sitting here like 'hey… hey guys… I think you… Uh I think you forgot the uh… the mounts…? ;-;'
Specifically: Back from the Beyond and Que Zara(lek) mounts WORK FOR SURE. World Awoken I think works, since Taivan is in the mount journal. Into the Storm, along with all the zone metas that were added (ie Bestowed mounts) have mounts attached but don't show in the mount journal whatsoever. I have two of the zone metas, but no mount reward, despite it saying I should
Another frustrating bit (at least to me) is that, if you got any of the new meta achievements on 10.2.6 launch, they don't appear on that day for earning it. They, instead, seemingly pick a random achievement and copy that date for completion. It's super bizarre, because I have achievements in the meta I completed later than what the meta says I achieved it on. I like to track my progress via an addon calendar (from Krowi's achievement addon) but those ones basically being thrown to the wind really threw me off :S
I just wish we'd get a blue post with 'we're working on it' and I'd be satisfied lol ;-;
At the end of the day, I'm paying to enjoy the game and have a good time — while the cosmetics are cool, they're just not cool enough for me to torture myself doing this event. It sucks, but it is what it is. I am glad that they are trying different things, though. I just hope that next time it's something that I like!
It's been wild to me to see a lot of the entitlement from the PvE collectors. I think you were spot-on about expectations and it's very valid to feel upset and misled with Blizzard's handling of the game mode. But setting that aside, considering how excruciatingly limited all PvP content in WoW's entire 18+ years of development have been, it stings to see the people that have had 99.99% of all of the mounts and titles and transmogs made for them and delivered in amazing zones and raids with great storytelling complaining about having to grind out a single renown level per day for 6 weeks. PvPers rarely get new BGs or Arenas, mounts and titles are reserved for 0.1% – 0.5% of the top players, and virtually none of the story is told through PvP despite faction conflict being core to the game's themes.
From my point of view, it's easy to drop into Plunderstorm and PvE for the first few minutes and then pick a fight with the strongest looking player nearby or run into the storm a few times and get a rank of renown or two per hour. And when I tally up how many times I'm dying in Plunderstorm vs how many times I die wiping on raid progression nights, the numbers are very close. And 6-week grinds have been part of the game since Vanilla. I'm even doing some right now to collect stuff I missed from Shadowlands and WoD, and that's on top of all of the Dragonflight grinds! So the issue seems to be mostly that other players are doing the killing rather than a raid boss.
And for that, the most heated and antagonistic rhetoric I've ever seen from the WoW community is spilling out everywhere. Even in the other comments under this video, the hate is flowing.
The kicker is that they made a Gladiator mount that a tiny fraction of PvPers got a PvE completionist reward too with this same update! Imo, that's a bigger deal than PvEers having to play ~150-200 games to get the parrot mount. Some people put far more than 6 weeks of grinding into getting their glad mount, and now it's no longer exclusive. Worse, some people spent more than 6 weeks grinding and FAILED to get that glad mount, and now they have to see people that maybe have never touched PvP flying around on it, and if they want it they, as a PvPer, have to go grind tons of PvE content and achievements.
The only thing that looks more unreasonable than the hostile collectors on social to me in all of this is Blizzard. These decisions had very predictable outcomes, and they went ahead with them anyhow.
I think alot feel robbed of a patch… as there isnt any actual wow content…
I wonder if the results of plunderstorm will give them the info they are looking for. It is obvious this is consumer testing to see if a new game like this is viable. It is definitely a niche game though. People hate or are ok with it.
Not all content needs to be for PvErs, and "collectors" need to get over themselves.
Please don't ever get face tattoos. I don't need the peer pressure
As I'm 36/40 now I'm feeling better about it. Mainly cause I've almost done what I need for the mog.
I'm such that if someone puts a time limit on a pvp thing it stresses me out.
Once I hit 40 I'll not be crazy putting 4 hours after work and all day Saturday on this fluff.
Blunderstorm should be a separate game. I hated it so much, i unsubbed wow. but will resub when 11.0 launch.
It;s a blunder. 10 years too late on BR
My changing view of the game and strategy for getting plunder are the same as yours.
I'm liking the mode a bit more eaxh day and once I finish the quest, it's off to find easy plunder or PVP blaze of glory time.
PvE players seething all over the place. Mhm, those salty tears are so good, can't wait to farm you guys off for easy plunder!
Yeah – i think its good for wow. To the complainers- sorry, but our fun is not based on you wanting to collect everything, but not wanting to fight pvp ( in a game with ‘Warcraft’ in ghe title). I’m glad they’re trying new things.
It IS a boring thing. I mean if you do it 2-3 times you've seen everything to see, then it's repeat for a couple hundred times or more. But then again you're the type of person who likes mindless grinds, so…
Nobody could be already done with the DF meta because there's a new quest achi with the Fringe dailies that doesn't track your already done ones. So you need at least 7 days to do that (that's where I'm at, then I'll have the meta done).
Also, most if not all the mounts & dragon skins tied to the meta are bugged. For example, the bestowed mounts don't show up in the catalogue. The black nether drake skin doesn't show up either etc. All the things they added are pretty much bugged.
Thanks Hazel!
This made me wanna try retail again!
I had absolutely everything completed for all DF meta achievements apart from the new time gated one they put in (presumably to give them time to actually bother putting the reward mounts in the game as I've not been awarded anything so far).
Saw someone with the parrot mount on Friday I was like how the hell so fast. I haven’t even tried it yet but I definitely have fomo as a collector of mounts and mog especially when it’s limited time
i saw a ladybug this morning!
What I’m most upset about is how they put all their resources into this instead of fixing their game. They let PVP die.
Anytime a game adds MMR to it. It's not for the better. Considering the size of wow's player base would it not make sense to add an MMR setting. Any time a game has had an MMR setting it typically ruins the game. The point is to fight against people from all of wow, good, bad and so on.
F plunderstorm