A great resource you have been supatease. I am a light pvp player but I still enjoy your videos and they have helped massively in the little pvp I have been getting into
For warrior, which covenant do you recommend? I’m leaning toward Venthyr for the consistent damage over Kyrian (I tend to really dislike everything being tied to one ability as in the Kyrian spear set up)
yeah ret is fun as double dps. as healer/dps u want to just rip your eyes out… id say S maybe even A just because youre limited to double dps pretty much beyond 2k+ but it is insanely fun double dps
I was able to hit 2300 playing resto this season with both a frost dk and an enhance Shaman. I think at the end of the day, a good player can make most melee specializations work. Enhance was so much fun to play with.
Assa in A-tier seems low. They do insane amounts of damage and have a freaking 9 second sharpen on top of already having kidney shot every 20s. I could see it being there cause of lack of comp diversity though. In regards to popularity, I think most know how much pressure they can do, and skillcapped ranked them in the trinity of s+ 2s dps alongside warriors and bm hunters.
I've also heard many high-rated claim ret suck in 2s, and outlaw and survival are s+
Assa is S-tier, but sub is S+. That’s why you don’t see that many. 20 sec CD kidney, giga sharpen blade, disarm, insane damage. All rogues are broken in 2v2 atm.
When A is meh-ish and "you'll have a tougher time climbing" you've got your ranking system in a weird place from the get go. A should be like, this is near perfect, with A+ or S being perfect or as close as can be.
Weird thing to complain about but…. Well, yeah. Love your videos though brah
us peasants may not be able to understand the highest highest of highest level of play (lol?) and i understand this is your opinion. my opinion is, this list is shit
In EU at the top of the ladder for melee I'd say it is very clear that warrior, feral and survival hunter are S+ tier and then it's debatable if sub rogues are S+ or S tier too. After that I'd say the only specs that come even remotely close are windwalkers and outlaw rogues. The rest is pretty far behind. The most misplaced spec here is ret paladin (and no I don't play ret) But rets have some clear weaknesss that makes them unable to compete at the top of the ladder.
how is survival not s+, it just beats bm hunter every time the only reason to go bm is that it's super easy to get almost skillcapped
rest of the list is ok, would personally place dh one spot higher because of dh/protpala combo and place ret a bit lower, cause it has pretty clear weaknesses
I actually don't believe u put survival hunters in A rolf Survival/rd is just the best comp on 2v2 rn its the best dps spec for 2s and even u can play it with all the healers above 2.5k+ CR and its works aswell with Feral or Rouge at 2.8k+ CR u can see Satana/bicmex playing its just insane
Thx for the list ! Me and my bro are playing Holy priest Warrior and were doing pretty good. We are gonna swap role soon, ima be dps for the first time and i dont know wich class to pick. Having lot of fun with frost DK and WindWalker. He is gonna be Holy Paly, do you have a recommandation for us ? I could lvl a DH too… What do you think ? Thx and have a nice day !
fury warrior cannot kill only the feral druid and vv monk … and you put him in the с tier. in 2s and 3s fury warrior is easy to play on 2600+
So many people jumping monk bandwagon and being hardstuck on 1.6-1.8. Funniest thing ever. It actually requires some skill
Hey there I’m an orc fury and I beat you in 2s!
I would swap ret and sub personally but thats just from my experience as an ele shaman around 2k-2100, love these tier lists
A great resource you have been supatease. I am a light pvp player but I still enjoy your videos and they have helped massively in the little pvp I have been getting into
to much offheal
For warrior, which covenant do you recommend? I’m leaning toward Venthyr for the consistent damage over Kyrian (I tend to really dislike everything being tied to one ability as in the Kyrian spear set up)
Survival is definitely S+ if you was loooking as EU it’s the top in rating
Survival is easily S++
Survival hunter has too be S+, EU 2v2 ladder top 10 players are legit only Rdruids + survival hunters
yeah ret is fun as double dps. as healer/dps u want to just rip your eyes out… id say S maybe even A just because youre limited to double dps pretty much beyond 2k+ but it is insanely fun double dps
I was able to hit 2300 playing resto this season with both a frost dk and an enhance Shaman. I think at the end of the day, a good player can make most melee specializations work. Enhance was so much fun to play with.
Can anyone give me any advice for beating feral as a ret?
They just bleed run and I can't keep up.
I'm only 1.6k, yes I'm aware I'm shit.
SURV S+
RET A
WW S
ASSA S
I disagree with this list a bit.
Assa in A-tier seems low. They do insane amounts of damage and have a freaking 9 second sharpen on top of already having kidney shot every 20s. I could see it being there cause of lack of comp diversity though. In regards to popularity, I think most know how much pressure they can do, and skillcapped ranked them in the trinity of s+ 2s dps alongside warriors and bm hunters.
I've also heard many high-rated claim ret suck in 2s, and outlaw and survival are s+
People are still playing shadowlands?!? Bwahahahaa
Ass rog would have to be s tier at least
Assa is S-tier, but sub is S+. That’s why you don’t see that many. 20 sec CD kidney, giga sharpen blade, disarm, insane damage. All rogues are broken in 2v2 atm.
Thx
Kinda not a good list and mostly not accurate. Assa in A and Surv hunt in A? lol
Having S and S+ is overkill
When A is meh-ish and "you'll have a tougher time climbing" you've got your ranking system in a weird place from the get go. A should be like, this is near perfect, with A+ or S being perfect or as close as can be.
Weird thing to complain about but…. Well, yeah. Love your videos though brah
us peasants may not be able to understand the highest highest of highest level of play (lol?) and i understand this is your opinion. my opinion is, this list is shit
Me hoping this patch will bring a better frost dk. Also me after this video: F U C K!
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In EU at the top of the ladder for melee I'd say it is very clear that warrior, feral and survival hunter are S+ tier and then it's debatable if sub rogues are S+ or S tier too. After that I'd say the only specs that come even remotely close are windwalkers and outlaw rogues. The rest is pretty far behind. The most misplaced spec here is ret paladin (and no I don't play ret) But rets have some clear weaknesss that makes them unable to compete at the top of the ladder.
Outlaw is way stronger than assassination in 2vs2. It somewhat counters the massive amount of BM hunters so it has less clear counters.
how is survival not s+, it just beats bm hunter every time
the only reason to go bm is that it's super easy to get almost skillcapped
rest of the list is ok, would personally place dh one spot higher because of dh/protpala combo and place ret a bit lower, cause it has pretty clear weaknesses
I actually don't believe u put survival hunters in A rolf Survival/rd is just the best comp on 2v2 rn its the best dps spec for 2s and even u can play it with all the healers above 2.5k+ CR and its works aswell with Feral or Rouge at 2.8k+ CR u can see Satana/bicmex playing its just insane
And ret its not s+ at 2s maybe s or a
Thx for the list ! Me and my bro are playing Holy priest Warrior and were doing pretty good. We are gonna swap role soon, ima be dps for the first time and i dont know wich class to pick. Having lot of fun with frost DK and WindWalker. He is gonna be Holy Paly, do you have a recommandation for us ? I could lvl a DH too… What do you think ? Thx and have a nice day !
ret in S+? wtf and survival in A? that's so backwards
The top 10 in 2v2 in the world. Is 4x SV hunters and 6x Resto Druids…
(List Edit) Survival should be on S+
funny how sub made its way back above assassin. interesting