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In this video: MeleeDPS. Investigating in what could be some sleeper OP or overhyped specs for the release of Shadowlands
0:00 Intro
1:40 Hunter
3:33 Mage
8:05 Shadow Priest
12:04 Affliction Warlock
14:24 Elemental Shaman
18:08 Outro
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Go ahead and share your boldest calls; we will revisit them in a few weeks!
memories of MM is how boring it is but Ill play it if I have to. If and only if its better.
its just simply BM can move around and MM is very stationary, maybe you do less damage but it feels better for a lot of ppl in M+ especially, just being able to move.
also exotic pets and the whole "beast master" rexxar fanboy stuff too
i enjoy my BM more cause hunter class fantasy, dunno if that stupid reason or not. i have no problem playing MM tho i just prefer BM.
The commentary flavor on your videos really makes it fun to watch and listen to. "Safe space.. No smart people here." Funny.
Elemental is in the perfect place: strong enough to be good, but not enough to be on the radar for nerfs. The future looks bright my shaman brothers and sisters, the spirits have told me.
“Idk why people are playing BM” meanwhile you have a BM player destroying an aff lock and an arcane mage on damage haha
Boomie?
I'm playing a hunter to control as many pets as possible. If I have to play melee with hunter, then I will play rogue, dk, monk instead. If I have to play petless range, then I will play lock, mage.
any1 can suggest a mouse : like razer deathadder v1 feeling , more buttons to bind , not to many like naga ?
SPriest is one of the specs I am considering but you make a very good point, there is no fallback if it gets nerfed. Locks in comparison will always have 1 viable spec at least.
Believe it or not, a lot of us dont care about max dps. A lot of us like playing what is fun to us.
Funny how I just watched a new fire mage guide from preheat (limit) telling us how fire is not dead and we should stop saying that 😅
hunters: MM is so much harder to play than BM.
Affliction s tier for mythic + are you sure?
You get cool pets as bm hunter, about it imo.
Rather than nerfing Shadow Priest, I do hope that Blizzard learns from the reception of the re-design to widen out the gameplay of each spec. Their options of dealing with different encounters is a good thing to highlight.
BM Hunter is all about class fantasy. Even though MM is better, I can't bring myself to play it because the optimal way to play it is without a pet.
No thanks, fam; I like my pets. I worked hard for them. I also liked being fully mobile at all times.
Sometimes class fantasy is just more important than spec performance.
Less than 5 mins in and you've made so many bad calls. MM is not a B tier spec in M+ it's solidly performing in the A possibly S tier. Fire is incredibly strong in M+ on the beta as well with most serious mage players trending toward it now.
Fire mages are actually on par with frost even greatly surpassing it on aoe in m+
movement. BM doesn't have to stand still. While every other ranged class is trying to squeeze in that last cast or popping movement cooldowns before they have to move out of that mechanic, BM is just bouncing around dpsing away. Not a hunter here but if I was that is why I'd play BM or marksman.
"Fire is dead" meanwhile everyone at the top is playing fire because they all agree it's fucking broken op
You have to update your tier lists dude, Fire Mage tier D and Frost tier S for M+… yikes
Pet dude the difference is pet Mm hunter has less and less RPG element to do with hunter class more and more..
Your dry humor is super good. I laughed quite a bit. Probably the best one is:
"I'll tell you why the Elemental Shaman will be the best dps spec in raid. Because if it isn't then I lose my raid spot." and
"Affliction lock will be FoTM for 2 years." Haha, nice 😀
Why the bm hunter hate? We're all in this together
BM hunters love their pets, love moving around constantly, and love how simple the spec is.
That’s fine.
But they also have a weirdly strict view of what a “hunter” is.
(Ranged + Pet) It’s dumb af and super illogical.
Also I don’t understand playing a class for years and only ever wanting to play 1 single spec for 90% of that time. I get why they like the spec, I enjoy it too, but their almost vitriolic hatred for the other specs and refusal to play them makes ZERO sense to me.
I don’t like to use the term “Huntard” but…. yeah
Which covenant would you recommend for shaman in general ? I know NL is better for ele/resto, but sucks for enha. Kyrian however, is not as good as necrolord, but its decent for all 3 specs.
BM hunters are attached to their movement keys. If they can’t press them 90% of the time they get upset. Also, exotic pets.
My strafe keys hate me so much after an hour or longer of playing BM.
Affliction has a honest rotation?!?!? Are you high?
i'm not sure what you are playing, but BM and MM have drastically different playstyles…
The reason people stick with BM is their exotic pet collections
where is BALANCE DRUID? i thought we are friends now we are enemies
That tierlist is so wrong, according to beta, fire mage is currently the strongest spec for M+ and probably for raid aswell. However I believe that this video was uploaded few days later after it was recorded (hence the outdated info) and I cant really blame it on the channel rather than on Blizzard, because they keep changing everything really, really often.
Hunter main here personally i will be playig MM ive mained MM since BC the class fantacy dose it for me MM is what a hunter is suppose to be i remember they days when steady shot ise to Proc lock and load it was amazing i use to play some SV in cata when it use.to be a dot spec that too was amazing i dont know why they changed it thats the BEST SV ever was imo. I dont mind the cast of aimed yeah its a bit too long imo should be like 2 seconds at most . I stop at cata my pc died i grow up started playing again in BFA still loved MM still smashing DPS meters never played BM not really my thing it dosent appeal to me in anyway . As for shadow lans Venthry MM i have a feeling flayed shot with dead eye talent along with lock amd load procs will be tons off proc dmg yeah its a bit of RNG but a bit of RNG is fun
1:52 That is because Blizz tries to get more people to play Marks, not by making Marks fun etc. but by nerfing Beast (This seems to be the Blizz way) make people play a certain spec by nerfing the other speccs they like 😛
Im warlock main so ill keep play even in shadowlands if we get nerf i would not be suprised and just acept it and play as it is.
#mages are so fun in sl playin frost and arkan 1 key or two 2 keys yey … -.- #not rly fun tbh
i think some of the reasons are. ( i am not a BM main )
Exotic Pets, Any hunter thats put time into pet collecting, wont wanna lose access to them via swapping to MM
BM Will always get into groups, like outlaw and assassination. it brings good utility that groups will want.
between these 2 reasons hunters never feel the requirement to swap across from BM realistically… theres prolly more reasons.. but these 2 are the major 2 i could think of.
That's because MM is an unfun turret whereas BM is a fun mobile spec.
havent played hunter for a long time. and im hyped at marksman being kinda better. I like Bm, its fine, its easy. But meh. Marksman is just a bit spicier
its because of exotic pets
Reason for people staying BM is they can just jump around and basically do the same damage while moving around.