Imagine not understanding scaling after 8 expansion…. These tier list are taken too seriously in the community and it's annoying… Hey I heard outlaw bad …funny where did you hear it? Cause guess what 5 people playing it isn't enough data to compare against the sheep of players..
How are ferals A+ tier? they have 2 comps. And are Purely set up based which warriors stop every top with banner/vene. Thx for the content as always!!!
Sub rogue is not A tier. They are a stun bot in one comp, RMP. They bring close to no dmg, no healing, no peeling (cause the enemy is always on stun DR), they die in 3 seconds to any melee (not ret, ret kills them in 2 seconds). Sub is B if i am very indulgent. Ret is S 100%, ferals are A and sham is A+.
Yeah the oversaturation of holy paladins in the current 2v2 and 3v3 metas is forcing alot of those specialisations lower on the tier, just by holy paladins existing as S++++ heal. Also , monks currently are unacceptable.
"DOOOODDDDD RET IS SO GOOD !!!!11!!!eleven!!!" my ret has literally 27 keybinds aside from the usual 1-12 numerals set up and it still doesnt feel enough, the levels of AWARENESS and APM you need to perform are insane, and as soon as you meet literally 1 player that can kite its over. meanwhile on my arms im joking around with my buddy whilst drunk and barely looking at my screen whilst performing a mere 50apm…. how the fuck are these 2 even close in your tier list ????? ALSO: you NEED to be KYRIAN to have this insane dps, because if you dun fucked up and – oops how dare you- enjoy raiding (yes venthyr is way superior for that) then just go fuck yourself i guess im just walking out of this pool of yours
You are my favorite announcer. I absolutely love the way you have fun and get excited when someone is about to die. —-however—- with these tier lists, you are being a snake in the grass. Because I remember what you did during Beta parroting and then hypocritically the same classes you said no one would invite are now the best classes and you main boomkin. But back then you said no one would invite a boomkin and tunneled everyone into Sub/Priest That’s the snake stuff I’m talking about.
I mean the only meta comps for frost are TSG and WD and its a support pick, on its own it just deals 0 dmg outside of the chill streak window. The only reason its a competitive pick is because of heartstop and delirium which enhance his main melee partner drastically.
You undervalue fury way too much. Lack MS ? Just play with a DH, WW or Rogue. Generally with a caster you have enough damage to kill anyone even without MS. Also Unhinged gives you MS on a 1 minute CD, which aligns with your burst.
Trust in the process, Fury will overcome judgements!
Pls change the damage taken of death wish & reduce it by half or altogether, max 5 stacks instead of 10. New banner is actually good, I just wanna play necrolord fury pvp :')
Better honor talent options than 1 second extra on enrage,
Could add a double enrage buff for hitting 3 criticals in a row
Could buff the enhanced raging blow /bthirst talent. Seems strong but 20% more damage, along with a 5-15 % increase to dragon roar would be nice in a bursty meta.
Bloodthirst doesn't feel good at all to press. Maybe it gets better later on with higher hp. As of rn, wasted global! Give us something on par with expel harm or something.
What kind of Frost DKs you're talking about?? The frost dks I find in 3s are easily A+ or even S tier. They do tons of damage, and their setups are insanely good. Plus they increase the CD duration of defs and mobility abilities like crazy. And their magic dome decrease magical damage taken by 80% when they select the pvp talent, balance convoke and mage combusts be doing noodle damage. Thats A+ Easily.
Hey Supa!!! Love the content ^^ can you do an updated 1v1 tier list?
Hey, I think you should make it clear in the title that you are referring to 3v3, as a lot of the things do not apply to 2v2 🙂 great video 🤩
Imagine not understanding scaling after 8 expansion…. These tier list are taken too seriously in the community and it's annoying… Hey I heard outlaw bad …funny where did you hear it? Cause guess what 5 people playing it isn't enough data to compare against the sheep of players..
yeeeaaah… No. WW and Rets are wrong. WW is A+ and Ret is S++
This video could be summed up in 30s or less… all melee is S-tier as blizzard always caters the game to them.
How are ferals A+ tier? they have 2 comps. And are Purely set up based which warriors stop every top with banner/vene. Thx for the content as always!!!
Legit the best tier list video I have seen
What melee classes are S tier for Battlegrounds? Thank you.
Sub rogue is not A tier. They are a stun bot in one comp, RMP. They bring close to no dmg, no healing, no peeling (cause the enemy is always on stun DR), they die in 3 seconds to any melee (not ret, ret kills them in 2 seconds). Sub is B if i am very indulgent. Ret is S 100%, ferals are A and sham is A+.
Yeah the oversaturation of holy paladins in the current 2v2 and 3v3 metas is forcing alot of those specialisations lower on the tier, just by holy paladins existing as S++++ heal.
Also , monks currently are unacceptable.
Please put a little more mic level on your videos man 😀 ( I do enjoy them tho!)
Ww is dropped to A tier or probably even B tier. Way to squishy, warrior does everything better
"DOOOODDDDD RET IS SO GOOD !!!!11!!!eleven!!!" my ret has literally 27 keybinds aside from the usual 1-12 numerals set up and it still doesnt feel enough, the levels of AWARENESS and APM you need to perform are insane, and as soon as you meet literally 1 player that can kite its over. meanwhile on my arms im joking around with my buddy whilst drunk and barely looking at my screen whilst performing a mere 50apm…. how the fuck are these 2 even close in your tier list ????? ALSO: you NEED to be KYRIAN to have this insane dps, because if you dun fucked up and – oops how dare you- enjoy raiding (yes venthyr is way superior for that) then just go fuck yourself i guess im just walking out of this pool of yours
Cries in DH
On point, 100%
You are my favorite announcer. I absolutely love the way you have fun and get excited when someone is about to die. —-however—- with these tier lists, you are being a snake in the grass. Because I remember what you did during Beta parroting and then hypocritically the same classes you said no one would invite are now the best classes and you main boomkin. But back then you said no one would invite a boomkin and tunneled everyone into Sub/Priest That’s the snake stuff I’m talking about.
I mean the only meta comps for frost are TSG and WD and its a support pick, on its own it just deals 0 dmg outside of the chill streak window. The only reason its a competitive pick is because of heartstop and delirium which enhance his main melee partner drastically.
You undervalue fury way too much. Lack MS ? Just play with a DH, WW or Rogue. Generally with a caster you have enough damage to kill anyone even without MS.
Also Unhinged gives you MS on a 1 minute CD, which aligns with your burst.
Trust in the process, Fury will overcome judgements!
Sub-ul-tea
If Hunt was on any other class, Havoc would be 'C' tier. And what's sad is Hunt is undeniably overpowered and needs to be toned down some.
This will be why I face either windwalker or arms 20 games in a row arena… does not feel good man.
23:07 ??? Expel Harm is self only healing, you're thinking of BFA's Reverse Harm which could heal allies but doesn't exist any more.
fury warrior bottom 2, im guessing. :/
Possible Changes:
Pls change the damage taken of death wish & reduce it by half or altogether, max 5 stacks instead of 10. New banner is actually good, I just wanna play necrolord fury pvp :')
Better honor talent options than 1 second extra on enrage,
Could add a double enrage buff for hitting 3 criticals in a row
Could buff the enhanced raging blow /bthirst talent. Seems strong but 20% more damage, along with a 5-15 % increase to dragon roar would be nice in a bursty meta.
Bloodthirst doesn't feel good at all to press. Maybe it gets better later on with higher hp. As of rn, wasted global! Give us something on par with expel harm or something.
Add war banner to pvp talent options
Your adds have a video in it 😊 love the content!
Keep it up man, love your vids
What kind of Frost DKs you're talking about?? The frost dks I find in 3s are easily A+ or even S tier. They do tons of damage, and their setups are insanely good. Plus they increase the CD duration of defs and mobility abilities like crazy. And their magic dome decrease magical damage taken by 80% when they select the pvp talent, balance convoke and mage combusts be doing noodle damage. Thats A+ Easily.