Today we talk about the state of Frost DK in Shadowlands and everything that comes in between! Together with the boys from the Acherus Discord: Bicepspump, …
Have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons and really enjoyed everyone you were playing with but the Dungeon Master was sort of a self righteous ass who always thought he was clever or funny and in fact was still just an ass? IDK man, but I feel like Blizzard is that DM…
Would really enjoy a "bottom of the barrel spec" video. Comparing current bottom of the barrel and past bottom. Not just dps but looking at tanks and healers as well, and try to figure out why nothing was really done to work on those instead of just tuning the top/middle of the pack
Even though I don't personally play Frost DK I found this interesting and informative. I'm looking forward to other discussions in this series including the other DK specs. I'm more focused on the tanks myself but I do want to understand all the specs.
As frost dk main i think the spec its on point just tricking legendarys example is using frozen champion legendary with kyrian hability and PoF with glacial advance maybe not for push 20s but to farm 15s feels gucci and i think having glacial advace base line would be awesome! i really enjoy the video!
I'm sorry, what's wrong with Unholy? I feel it makes a lot of sense. You have a resource, or two, and abilities to spend in single target and AOE. I love when classes have CLEAR distinctions between single target and AOE abilities. I think Unholy works very well.
i have stopped playing wow until next patch drop but i hope blizzard will address the fact frost death knights talent tree has full of passive damage that dont interact whit the core of the spec and that glacial advance should be worth using on single target and the fact the soul binds dont interact whit other runic power spenders outside of frost strike ice cap should get the icy citadel and frost whelp baked in to it can easily be the big dragon that can be baked in to ice cap
Here's what I think a simple answer to the aoe runic power problem. Avalanche could easily be changed to a baseline ability that consumes maybe 30 runic power or even less given unholy's aoe potential. No cooldown is needed since unholy can just dump rp into aoe already. There's so much potential to weave something like avalanche into frosts kit that would hopefully make frost feel a little bit more impactful in short aoe scenarios, provided enough power is given to this "avalanche" ability to make breath a bonus for aoe, not a requirement.
I want to like Unholy DK, its lore and everything is just epic. It's what I mained in BFA, but I dropped it for a mage and then later a hunter in SL. Blizz helped streamline it a tiny bit but I still feel it has to go through too many globals to get its damage out. If I'm not in a high M+ then my rl friend who's a die hard Ret player will have 50% + of the pack dead before my ramp up's finished and actually ready to burst.
How to save frost: make breath baseline and make it cost 50 runic power instead of draining rp constantly and put it on a 30 second cd or something. Done.
I played frost in wod. I really miss the soul siphon ability because it gave frost the healing it needed to not get kited out and was perfect skill expression against melee without taking away from damage like our current sustain. I'll never play breath
Icy Talons – 5% Haste per stack (changing from 5% Attack Speed helps improve rune cooldown thus improving Runic Power generation)
Phearmones Legendary – 15% Haste and make Death and Decay become an aura surrounding the player. (So there isn't a chance your target moves from your Death and Decay)
(These changes can help extend a Breath window or enable more Obliterates to be cast inside an Obliteration window)
Additional Spell – Create a Warrior Cleave version of Obliterate that also cost 2 Runes, and be enhanced by Killing Machine procs.
As for Runic Power spending AoE enable Rime to give you an option of consuming it for a Howling Blast proc or a Frost Strike that does a Cleave.
Raise Dead – allow the ghoul to mimic the Frost Death Knights Obliterate and Frost Strike at 20% damage, to give it more value.
All these possible changes would improve Frost right now, create a new playstyle, and help them scale well late into the expansion.
Love the show guys. Thank you for making weekly content.
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You guys look so happy! Thanks you guys for them smiles!
Holy hell PLEASEEEEE do this for more specs. Like maybe Blood DK or Guardian Druid 😉
Have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons and really enjoyed everyone you were playing with but the Dungeon Master was sort of a self righteous ass who always thought he was clever or funny and in fact was still just an ass? IDK man, but I feel like Blizzard is that DM…
Cat Cast!
Thank you 🙂
I do , I click the video without know what its about xD
Yo man can we get the ele shaman? I keep out dpsing people more geared than me
can we get an unholy version of this podcast? and also great video 🙂
Would like to see this with the Arcane mage heads. I'd love to see their takes on one of my fave specs.
Would really enjoy a "bottom of the barrel spec" video. Comparing current bottom of the barrel and past bottom. Not just dps but looking at tanks and healers as well, and try to figure out why nothing was really done to work on those instead of just tuning the top/middle of the pack
Make chill streak base or put it as a talent please
Wait when the fuck did you pass 100k subs?! Fuck! Congrats guys! I remember when she was less than 30k
Even though I don't personally play Frost DK I found this interesting and informative. I'm looking forward to other discussions in this series including the other DK specs. I'm more focused on the tanks myself but I do want to understand all the specs.
So u gonna do 1 hour video for every spec in game?
Wow, this is awesome! Thanks so much for this, I love this kind of format!
As frost dk main i think the spec its on point just tricking legendarys example is using frozen champion legendary with kyrian hability and PoF with glacial advance maybe not for push 20s but to farm 15s feels gucci and i think having glacial advace base line would be awesome! i really enjoy the video!
AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm sorry, what's wrong with Unholy? I feel it makes a lot of sense. You have a resource, or two, and abilities to spend in single target and AOE. I love when classes have CLEAR distinctions between single target and AOE abilities. I think Unholy works very well.
Pls make a Podcast about Enhancement! 🙂
gathering storm should be baseline 🙂
i have stopped playing wow until next patch drop but i hope blizzard will address the fact frost death knights talent tree has full of passive damage that dont interact whit the core of the spec and that glacial advance should be worth using on single target and the fact the soul binds dont interact whit other runic power spenders outside of frost strike ice cap should get the icy citadel and frost whelp baked in to it can easily be the big dragon that can be baked in to ice cap
Icecap synergizes with obliteration they should just be in separate rows to promote synergy
LITERALLY DND SHOULD MAKE FS CLEAVE
Here's what I think a simple answer to the aoe runic power problem. Avalanche could easily be changed to a baseline ability that consumes maybe 30 runic power or even less given unholy's aoe potential. No cooldown is needed since unholy can just dump rp into aoe already. There's so much potential to weave something like avalanche into frosts kit that would hopefully make frost feel a little bit more impactful in short aoe scenarios, provided enough power is given to this "avalanche" ability to make breath a bonus for aoe, not a requirement.
Looking foward to updates on more specs, this videos are always fun, will have to check you guys in twitch some day 🙂
I want to like Unholy DK, its lore and everything is just epic. It's what I mained in BFA, but I dropped it for a mage and then later a hunter in SL. Blizz helped streamline it a tiny bit but I still feel it has to go through too many globals to get its damage out. If I'm not in a high M+ then my rl friend who's a die hard Ret player will have 50% + of the pack dead before my ramp up's finished and actually ready to burst.
Im waiting for the survival talk….like really would be interested to hear how survival pros keep surviving
You guys just might have made me stay around for patch or two. Keep the content coming bois!
the video that i've been waiting for a long time ago, ty u both <3
boys, I just left the again.. I wasnt enjoying pvp as frost dk no more, I wish u the best to all of u guys, hopefully the meta change
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i watched the whole thing and i learned a new stuff i didn't know before thank you guys for the video
Great video 👍
How to save frost: make breath baseline and make it cost 50 runic power instead of draining rp constantly and put it on a 30 second cd or something. Done.
Thank you very much <3
This is amaaaazing
I played frost in wod. I really miss the soul siphon ability because it gave frost the healing it needed to not get kited out and was perfect skill expression against melee without taking away from damage like our current sustain. I'll never play breath
You are making a video about Frost DKs and dont get Atlas on your video? wtf
Can't wait for Unholy dk 😀
I'm so glad I found your channel, you guys will be huge soon!
And what in the name of Arthas is this video that I can't watch right now (at work) but has "frost dk" at the title and is over one hour?
Damn the death knight aura is strong on this reunion.
My Ideas for small Tweaks to improve Frost.
Icy Talons – 5% Haste per stack (changing from 5% Attack Speed helps improve rune cooldown thus improving Runic Power generation)
Phearmones Legendary – 15% Haste and make Death and Decay become an aura surrounding the player. (So there isn't a chance your target moves from your Death and Decay)
(These changes can help extend a Breath window or enable more Obliterates to be cast inside an Obliteration window)
Additional Spell – Create a Warrior Cleave version of Obliterate that also cost 2 Runes, and be enhanced by Killing Machine procs.
As for Runic Power spending AoE enable Rime to give you an option of consuming it for a Howling Blast proc or a Frost Strike that does a Cleave.
Raise Dead – allow the ghoul to mimic the Frost Death Knights Obliterate and Frost Strike at 20% damage, to give it more value.
All these possible changes would improve Frost right now, create a new playstyle, and help them scale well late into the expansion.
Love the show guys.
Thank you for making weekly content.
Frost was never bad IMO. I was able to get KSM as a 2h oblit fdk, it just unfortunately lives in the shadow of unholy
Interesting to hear, I'm no frost DK fan 😉 can't love them all. I expect an invite when you do a surv hunter talk lol 😀
Just in time for the rise of frost
Pretty cool concept fo sho!
I play 2h Obliterate with Night Fae and it works great.