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In a new interview Steve Danuser confirms Sylvanas is on the patch to redemption.
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Don't care anymore. Do what they want with her and then get her the hell out of the story.
What the fuck is wrong with Steves sick relationship with sylvanas. This is what happens when you have too many writers throughout the years the newer writers have no respect for the older ones and the newer ones just don't care about the story/lore
Yeah, terrible idea. There are certain characters that people like in FFXIV who did horrible things and they did a great job making you understand WHY they did it and made you really like the characters, but they were never redeemed and rewarded for it. It's just terrible story telling found in the worst types of animes. "Oh, you murdered millions of people, including several of my friends? That's OK, you said you're sorry!"
she has to live – they need to sell sylvanas merchandise
I just don't agree as far as it goes with viewing the situation. The whole 'splitting the soul' bit makes just absolutely no sense. Its plaid as if it splits good and evil yet clearly both Uther and Sylvanus have done good and bad things. Even more importantly, it is still HER soul, so everything that was done is because of her. It makes no sense for her to get any sort of redemption and be let off the hook because in the end the bad stuff she did is her fault.
It's like doing something bad because you are drunk. It isn't a valid excuse you you lacked inhibition wehen you do something horrible you wouldn't normally do because 'that side' that practices restraint isn't there to stop you from doing stupid things.
I think she's going to be the NEW jailer, as penance for all she has done, I think that's the only way to keep her alive but take bow out of the future story…either her or Bolvar.
I still blame Danuser mostly for wanting to turn WoW into a rip off disneyverse.
Jaina already teased Arthas presence being in Anduin's sword so next up is butchering that I guess..
I fucking hate the split soul story it steals away her agency and it diminishes her character over all
Remember their video on 9.2, with the "alien" zone, floating trees and water like no other water you ever seen before?
This Danuser interview reminded me of that. I can't take anything from that dude serious and will surely NOT resub just to see what he made of Sylvanas in the end.
I guess there will be people he get hooked with, but nah, not for me.
I just hope they don't make her the new Jailer.
9:20 ahh True how i would love that btw even saurfang Said it that she is one Who keeps blackhands and guldans blood legacy she is the True warchief ahh shame what they did to our girl
I saw some people in chat saying what if she heads up a 3rd faction for disenfranchised Horde and Alliance? I don't know if it would work but I like the idea because there could be a storyline/quest of her moving away from both factions. We then can pick up the quest where we either say no thanks, staying where I am, or take on the quest line that eventually leads us to her and pledging allegiance to the 3rd faction.
Range-General and Banshie are the same person.. different methods, approach, different experience, but the same person. the same mind… But more importantly both of them have the same goal… free will… did Sylvana's get what she wanted?? i doubt that.. she did get her soul back, but what's that good for if you are still a slave.. NO… i think Sylvana's will try to break the cycle again. don't know when or how, but that would be my best guess.. i realy doubt she will stop now and become a nun or something… she is a warrior…
also.. what happens when Sylvana's becomes whole again?? when two parts merge into one? what will ranger-general learn from the banshie i wonder.. will that knowledge change her perspective on why banshie did what she did? don't know but i can't wait to see where will they go from here…
in life she was vain and proud, i don't think she will ever be like that again.. not after everything that happend..
The theory of Sylvanas becoming the new Jailer is starting to make more sense. The ranger general side of her would realize she has to pay for the evil the banshee side is responsible for.
The redemption ark is still a complete joke, no matter on how much copium you are. Her character in 9.2 is nothing like Warrcraft 3, even before being raised by Arthas, she was a bitchy elf even among her own people, a bad apple, so seeing this soft, empathic Sylvanas is laughable, she has always been a hardass soldier, steadfast general, not this sensitive little baby crying over the deeds of her dark side. I don't see ''Sylvanas'' here at all, i see a great character being butchered, a weak, pathetic little girl due to being retconned beyond recognition.
To resub to WoW just to see the story of 9.2 is to fall for more of Ion's and Danuser's deceptive bullshit.
No Accolon, I completely disagree…By redeeming Sylvanas they did betray the Alliance. By portraying Elune like that, allowing the Horde to slaughter her children in that way, they did betray the Alliance. By denying justice and making the Horde genocide into a not-so-big deal thing, they betrayed the Alliance. By not using Tyrande in the fight with the Jailer, they betrayed the kaldorei.
Sylvanas needs to die. There is no valid point to redeem her. She needs to go.
Well, we still need a Lich King. So, does Bolvar go back to being the Lich King or is he replaced by someone? Sylvanas perhaps?
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I can tell you, few FF villains are ever redeemed, and when they are, no one trusts them initially, and even now many still have to face punishment for what they did.
“Sylvanas is going to keep staying alive at the end of this”
Still disappointed, but not surprised at all
Both factions used to have these figurehead heros that meant something to each side and i feel as time progressed the horde has lost all of its interesting leaders to the point that if they redeem sylvanas there really is no one left on horde side except thrall who is a background character at this point.
They're just going to pull off an illidan. Stick her somewhere unreachable, shes probably going to stay in the shadowlands and look for Nathanos while we go back to azeroth
Bro you are so back and forth. You want blood thirsty horde fighting the Alliance but in multiple videos and streams you mention how badly you want factions to be demolished. I just watched a video of yours about the wow player who predicted WoD Legion BFA and Shadowlands and you begged that blizzard to not do another faction war…
Wow story telling is so fucking bad
I don't understand the lengths at which they have gone to try and 'save' Sylvanas since she isn't even a character anymore. She's retroactively not responsible for anything positive or negative from her death up until this point, almost the whole fanbase dislike her for sucking up so much attention, and a chunk outright despise her for getting off scott free for all of her shit. She's just canonically and idiot for believing the Jailer, a being so cartoonishly evil he makes care bear and rainbow bright villains look deep and complex by comparison. Her legacy is losing, having all of her power GIVEN to her by her masters, and then losing again.
Also I thought they were pushing that 'it isn't good and bad sylvanas' narrative, did they just give up on that for the lie that it was? The furor of her getting a free pass because she didn't have her whole soul has faded so now they get to lean into that moral math as hard as possible and claim its character development? This is why you don't let people off with at least some version of a Mea Culpa. This should tell you all you need to know about how the writing team is going to treat the characters and lore going forward. They'll shovel shit at people, and when it doesn't stick they'll just pretend they never said what they said and it was really this whole other thing.
I wish I could say "Give Jaina a proper role again" but then something shitty will happen with her. So I guess I'll just appreciate jainas wrap up in bfa lol.
But why resub when someone is going to put it on the internet like a day after it gets released/unlocked. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it 💯
I disagree with Accolonn's take on this.
Splitting Sylvanas' soul was a copout because for some reason we just can't have Sylavanas be a warcriminal.
Denuser has effectively taken away all of her agency since WC3 and allows for people to defend Sylvanas by talking about her as if she is two people "Ranger General" and "Banshee Queen".
Imagine if we talked about a murderer with split personality like that:
No, no, you see Your Honor the man standing in court today isn't John "The Skinflayer", but John "the Accountant" and therefore he shouldn't be held responsible for "the Skinflayer's" actions.
Ihave no Trust that Blizzard will make it work.