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With all the buffs, nerfs and changes, we need to check out how the new 11.0.5 melee tier list looks like in dungeons because you can bet there are some changes compared to our previous war within melee dps tier list 🙂
As shown in the video, we take our data from warcraft logs, raider.io and archon.gg to try to differentiate the specs and make an objective war within melee tier list so by no means is this a personal dps tier list!
00:00 Intro
00:31 Arms Warrior
03:30 Assassination Rogue
04:15 Outlaw Rogue
05:00 Survival Hunter
05:50 Enhancement Shaman
06:49 Feral Druid
08:01 Frost DK
09:10 Fury Warrior
10:17 Havoc DH
10:58 Ret paladin
11:45 Sub Rogue
13:27 Unholy DK
14:55 Windwalker Monk
15:37 Conclusions & Evolution in Rankings
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Ret is definitely A tier 😂😂
These tier lists are only viable for keys above +12-13 . For every key under 8-10 , 90% of this isn't accurate . And i think this is a huge misslead to the player base who don't know that because i'm sick of +6 – +8 pug keys asking only for the classes they saw " meta" in youtube tier lists. Correct title : " 11.0.5 Melee Tier List in M+ for High end content only " .
I don’t get ret in B, it outdoes every single class by miles it seems in every group I’m in. Also windwalker in c, it also outdoes almost every other spec in my experience, anybody else notice this too?
Let's see how they nerf warrior somehow again
The tier list is in!
Thank you 🙂
Are 10s doable by every spec? Yes. Is it worlds easier if you bring a DK, Shaman, and Aug? Yes. Don’t hate ppl for wanting to find the best classes for their keys. If you play a spec that brings less than DK or Sham, push your own key and bring what you want or find a static team. 🤷♂️
Have we ever seen Feral being top tier in M+ and Raid?
Unholy for me, cant stand breath spec.
Lol arctic says not available for purchase..wtf are they even advertising for?
Why is Frost so high despite paladin existing ?
For the ppl who r saying tier lists don't matter since everyone can do +15s clearly don't play pug u simply won't find a group and when u make ur own group ull get the meta spec assuming same rio and logs cuz there's just a higher chance of beating the key with meta specs so yeah it does matter and honestly just play the meta specs it's just more fun to top the dps meters to know u r valuable unless of course u absolutely hate what's meta now
Only thing thats rough about Unholy is you lose so much damage to small pulls. On big pulls its crazy. My 604 was keeping up with a 622 ass rogue on pulls with 10+ adds.
As usual
Shit balance game
As always you are dumb af and no one gives a fuck about +16 +17, no one. zero percent of your viewers.
tier list should end at 10. and while all classes CAN do 10s, not all classes do it as easily and this list does NOT reflect who can do 10s easiest.
S tier are the ones that are going to be used in competitive scenarios, or are at the first page of raider io ladderboards= enhancement shamans and Frost Dk.
A tier are the ones that are very good, and they start to appear on the next pages of the ladder board = assassination rogues and Ret paladin.
Yoy can fill B, C and D with the rest.
How many times are you guys gonna remake the same video?
I don’t care what anyone says, Unholy Rider playing the Superstrain disease build is by far the most fun and comfy way to play melee this season.
The vast majority playing mythic+ are not in organized groups, where Frost DK would be generally better. They certainly aren’t doing keys above +10 either so these tier lists seem a bit niche.
Good! My weekly dose of tier. Thanks for the hard work, gentleman
Survival hunter behind arms warrior is cap. Hunter has a 13 second int, lust, a knock up, an aoe stun if used correctly, tranq shot, hunters mark and does INSANE aoe and st dmg.
You should bring up band wagon players in your videos on tier lists, people need to know all because you see a decent meta class sign up for your key doesn't mean they are a good player, meta classes are mental traps for people who just want to do top damage but don't even know what the class actually brings to the table. I can't even tell you how many meta class players I've played with, with over 2200+ io that don't even use poison cleanse totem, or even use grips…..sure you can top the meter but zero interrupts and no cc or utility is annoying. A great player is someone who can top damage or come close to, while being one of the top on interrupts, with them most cc, least amount of avoidable damage taken and least deaths
oh yeah another video about tier list for 13+ keys that 0.1% loosers without jobs do … lolllllllllll
I remember playing my Frost DK in dragonflight with a high item level still getting denied from groups and now it's meta this is why I just play what I like now
Ret is definitely not B tier but A.
Did you make that graph @17:05 or can I look it up somewhere?
Ret is in the same place as arms? xD
Stop doing meta lists and teach people how to play their class better.
I'm having fun with Festering Scythe UHDK, it crits for quite a bit and my crit rating isn't very high either
Unholy OVERALL pumps more than frost
i play windwalker and is a trash dps. fun to play i love it but the dps is way to.low when you do keys 10+
i stopped playing the game because of this. afther i done all the keys 10 and a few 11 i didn't see the need to struggle to paly amd push keys
so i deleted the game
maybe if they do significant buff on ww i will come back but is very unlikely that will ever happen
Unpopular opinion: These videos suck. (pretty well edited, info is good and Flame is great, i really like this channel been here since it was a pvp channel) But most players are lame and the video can be very misleading. People pugging 10's ( even 5-8 lol) actually believe that dungeons CAN'T be done without a group full of meta classes. It's just stupid and this issue is going to kill casual (pugging scene) M+ someday.
Not saying is Flame or Marcelian fault. But players are wild dude. I hope Blizzard do something soon. I'm actually very tired at this point and it's just season 1. Playing with friends and discord makes M+ a pretty fun experience (imagine having friends in wow in 2024). But pugging can actually kill the will to play at some point and it's not acceptable.
Please continue to put survival low on tier lists to make sure it doesn't get nerfed cause it's one of the strongest dps right now after enhancement
A tierlist based on what players did on a certain class is not accurate at all.
Even high end players have very biased oppinions on classes and only play the ones with the best dmg, even when another specc is just slightly behind.
For example sub rogue: Yeah ok the highest sub only timed 14+ so far. But not because it's dmg is not good enough for 15+. There are only very few people playing 15+ and above anyways and those minmax everything. I bet 100k gold a sub rogue could time a 15, maybe even a 16+ key if one of the high end assas would play it.
Crazy that dh hasn’t seen almost anything in a year.
Theres no reason why both dk specs are doing more damage than both warrior specs, with tons of better utility on top. Make it make sense Blizzard
Idk man arms warr shouldnt be that high especially above outlaw, outlaw does more aoe and more ST than arms and has more utility so arms shouldn’t be infront
Bro, best explanation of the fluid exponential difference in difficulty-to-class ever. I'm a manufacturing engineer in RL and this kind of metrics breakdown is exactly what finally makes the average person understand what's really going on. I've explained this concept to no end playing wow, and it just doesn't sink in with people. Very well done!
I always look forward to the Friday videos 🙌🏼
Im really confused as to how feral went into C tier while havoc is in the middle of B tier. Looking at archon in the 7-18 range feral has a score of 2773 while havoc has 2745, at "high keys" feral is 3074 while havoc is 3040. It also shows feral doing more dps than havoc in both groups, which can also be seen from mythicstats which shows that for +12 and higher keys havoc is only above MM and aug for end of dungeon DPS on average. At top 5% dps only spriest and WW get added below it according to mythicstats. I mean hearing you say that havoc "is cranking" only to cut to Jedith in his 2 minute burst finishing the pack below the ret pally, while also being able to see overall, just felt very disconnected. I will admit that im not an expert on looking into how each site gets their data or processes it, which is why i looked at multiple, but im really not seeing how havoc is better than feral in m+ right now. Both just have 1 dude doing a couple 16s, the difference is feral looks to be statistically higher in both io and damage when you look at all of the 12s-15s.