This Is Why PvP Is Dying In World Of Warcraft



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50 thoughts on “This Is Why PvP Is Dying In World Of Warcraft”

  1. Miss the Cataclysm era where Honor gear was more than enough to compete well in PVP (was the time era where Reckful made the War Glaives video to prove this point). At the same time Arena gear felt really rewarding if you managed to get the full set and was more incentive to do ranked pvp weekly. The elite sets felt even more exclusive since they weren't just mythic recolors, but were actual unique sets visually. Right now I feel like it's better to just cancel my subscription and come back in a couple of months.

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  2. I started the season doing PVP on 5 characters.
    I already quit it, its just unbalanced classes, bad systems, 30min-1h queue time (with more ~20 min of playing for 0 rating). It just feels really bad. And i just feel punished to started the season with PVP, should just go PVE, i'd be so much better geared now. PVE is so much better, fun and you don't stress so much.

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  3. kinda wish they would not show the solo shuffle win loss ratio. these elitest fucks that have been playing the game since it was release and have multiple gladiator tittles use it to try and shit on you. you have to learn the game somehow and that really shouldnt reflect on your progress.

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  4. 17:12….Damn dis is soo tru. And trolls is big problem. In my pre last shuff in lobby was 2 heals ( Sham and Monk ) both got 1.9, in 1st round i cc mr.monk sap-resap-trink-blind-cheap so we win…Next 5 rounds he or she cuz nickname was somthing like "Anya", mr.Monk just afk. Ill text "yo cmon we can win just dont b afk" and mr.Monk answer was: "ill eat ma ice-cream and den gonna heal"….So 0/6 monk, 33 all de dps, 6/0 Sham

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  5. As a newer player that started in SL, i could literally rant for 30 minutes about everything wrong with pvp in this game lol. At the end of the day it will never grow simply because there is absolutely zero new blood being introduced

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  6. I’m at 1724 as a warlock and I just started maiming warlock as a melee player normally and it’s been rough lol … all my passed lobbies were blades edge cs 3 melee and I struggled to even get the 3-3 … 4 times in a row for 0 rating only to go up against triple dh go 2-4 and lose 30 rating lmao

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  7. I couldn't agree more. I love wow I've been playing since vanilla. My favorite expansion was wrath, but I've not played the reloaded wrath. I loved it, but I want to play retail with everyone else. Fk sake blizzard focus on retail. I want hydra snutz and all the greats to stop playing these and play retail. blizzard make retail good.

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  8. Mmr inflation fix. Delete mmr. Every solo shuffle round won you gain 30 rating, a loss equals minus 15(quit early removes 500 rating and doesnt affect anyone else in the match). 2s and 3s win +100 lose -50, all RBGs win +200 loss -100. Make good players avance enough to not be able fighting low players, if you gain 1800+ rating you cannot be in any games with sub 1500 players.

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  9. WoW PVP will always be shit, if classes, that utilize pets for DMG or classes like ele shaman, destro lock etc that actively press less than 5 buttons and have pretty much no rotation will be better than classes that requires proper rotation to max dmg or setup… If you go 3v3, 80% of combs 1800+ are ele + lock + rdruid healer… ridiculous

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  10. I agree. Feels bad to solo shuffle queue. Makes it hard to feel motivated to play after I've unlocked my vault slots. Gaining rating is frustrating and waiting 30+ minutes just to go 3-3 and gain nothing feels terrible.

    Also there is too much dps and cc to enjoy playing a healer even with short queue times. Very stress inducing.

    I hope they introduce rated bg frenzy soon to give us a faster option for rated solo PvP.

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  11. Lfg takes 5 min to put together and once you've gotten out of placement you're getting 20 plus points for one win. Solo is trash, it's for gearing which is why there aren't rewards but an ass ton of griefing.

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  12. I work in a game development company and I know how this works. It's a vicious circle because due to their bad game design, people don't play PvP that much, which results in no interest for them to invest money to correct the design to attract more people and round and round. The first mistake was from their side tho. It's all about money and statistics. They see less and less people doing PvP and say "hmm, why would I invest that much money to revamp the PvP system if nobody plays it anyways?", and it stops there. They have other sources of income from Classic, Classic SoD, and many others that people plays regularly and create content from them and attract more people to play that. On the other side, we have people from Retail that complain a lot (fair complains), making other people to think twice before going to play Retail.

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  13. I came back to the game 2 months ago and honestly it was pretty fun for me. Able to gear so fast like never before ,play alts , but I start to feel bored already like quitting the game again. All my friends play either classic or other games so there's barely anyone to que with so you get stuck just playing shuffle and bg's. Sitting at que for 30 minutes to barely get any rewards meanwhile just dueling in front of Stormwind. Feels like you waste so many hours of just waiting around and not actually playing the game , feels horrible.

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  14. Im at a point where I'm literally just looking for any other MMO that has a decent PVP scene. Hoping Riot's new IP will be good since they're pretty good at pvp balancing in League. WoW atm is literally just logging on and sitting in queue, which in turn is demoralising because by the time the queue actually pops I can't really be bothered/not in the mood to PVP, especially if your first shuffle you play really well and you're feeling it. PVPers have always been second class in WoW, Blizzard would rather satisfy the people fighting literal bots.

    WoW is just dead, it'll never be restored back to what it once was. So bored of these constant cycles of x class getting hyper buffed & watching these people that have never played said class before just skyrocket in rating, whilst other classes just sit in the dumps for ages with 0 changes.

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  15. The people that are 2400+ are not queueing all day every day, they had high MMR from previous season and actually only queued under 200 rounds to get 2400 in the first week. E.g. the #1 Disc priest who is 2432 has 57-45 W/L (total rounds of shuffle) with only 55.9% win rate.

    If you didn't have an MMR 2400+ last season or season 1 (it carries over if you skipped season 2 but played season 1), you are wasting your time trying to climb to 2400.

    The only people above 2400 spammed queues in the first days of the season with a preset high mmr. Blizzard PVP devs are basically intentionally trolling this season.

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  16. Every healer, every caster has so many defensives now. I miss the good ol' days, when rock, scissor, paper was actually a thing. You need like 6 people to take down a healer now wich is insane, i used to solo healers myself, but no more.

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  17. This is fu***g nosense.. im about to quit healing because every comp has average 10sec cc chain and you actually need 2-4 sec to kill someone…… And how often this happens? Every 1min. And after 1min of round start i dont have much left.. im not skilled but i know pvp hasnt been like this before. And whose fault is it if dps dies? Healers ofc. Almosy every solo suffle i get to know how bad i am..
    Just sad..

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  18. Just won 4. 16 rating…..Next 2 shuffles 3 3 so 0 rating….then won 2 and lost 56 points….what is the point. This is with overall 16 more wins than losses. It is a waste of time playing solo. Especially with 25mins avg waits.

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  19. Casualizing pvp is the worst thing that ever happened to wow. Now we have a lot of players with 1800 in Solo Shuffle without having played 2v2 or 3v3.

    They come in, pound on the keyboard like monkeys and then cry on the forum if a rogue deletes you from an opener without even using trinket….

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  20. idk if you ever played LOL before, idk if you have ever played LOL mobile version before. Yes, this is now MMR works, it will drain you energy and time for carrying players not supposed to be in some kind elo. Because system knows you gonna play, system knows you gonna spend time on this no matter what.

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  21. I think something that hurts the game a lot is all the influencers constantly talking bad and complaining about the game being dead etc when it's not really that bad, but people watch it and decide to just not even play.. causing it to be bad because nobody is playing

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