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Had a couple of questions come up during stream so about time for a bit of an update; Pans for the future, my opinion on the story of the Shadowlands and giving my take on the story I would have liked to have seen go down with Sylvanas Windrunner. I hope you’ll enjoy ^_^
Update 0:00 – 2:40
Opinion on Shadowlands 2:41 – 8:15
Take on Sylvanas 8:16 – 16:56
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Blizzard should fire their entire writing staff and just hire you. Your 10 minute story was more satisfying and logical than years of the crap they’ve put out. Well done and thank you.
the woke has infiltrated blizz so they cant take critisism anymore so sad imo
Here is to hoping Blizzard watches your videos.
Nobbel88 for FFXIV when ?
Agreed, they leave the story to the player's interpretation to then just prove them wrong with no logic attached to the story's direction, time and time again. Why do I have to read non-ingame content to know wtf is going on…
amazing how that one change could have saved the storyline of the last few expansions
The unnecessary destruction of Teldrassil and Undercity and also the ruination of Sylvanas was a punch in the face for every Night Elf and Forsaken player. The Idea of Sylvanas leading the fight against the Jailor would have make so much more sense. It's such a shame that I wish it just wouldn't be canon.
I definitely prefer Blizzard's version to yours. I like WHAT they wanted to tell, how they did it was the problem. I would not have liked Alliance aggression for BfA. I would not have liked Greymane going aggro. I would not have liked Tyrande not becoming Night Warrior. I actually liked the Elune cinematic, it was very powerful – I guess it resonates with different people differently.. Sylvanas went too far and she is being pulled back too suddenly, that is true.. As for Teldrassil, it never should have existed. Mount Hyjal should've been restored as the capital for WoW from the very beginning – this is in fact, what I want them to do should they make a world revamp.
The current story has also entirely abandoned the struggle of the forsaken as how marginalized they are and how they cant even reproduce to grow in number. They have to raise the dead against their will in order to. It was such a compelling idea that this was a “race” that was the most unique of all in their position. Granted they still are but Sylvanas being the leader was also the most compelling because of how she became an undead to begin with. Realistically you could have had the burning of Teldrasil for the sole purpose of raising the remaining bodies as undead and securing the continent. Or just even an assault into alliance territory as sylvanas raises whoever you kill, making Saurfang question her actions even as a retaliation for sacking the undercity.
Blizzard will never improve in this regard because 'rule of cool' and them being unwilling to set down storybeats because they should be able to be changed last minute fo benefit rule of cool. They literally did so in 9.1 with the dreadlords 'because Denatrius proved more entertaining then imagined'.
why does nobbel make it sound like the lawsuit with blizz is canon LOL I swear i could just listen to him explain that as my bedtime story
@Blizzard, perhaps you should hire Nobbel as your head writer. This story is SO much better than what happened.
It's the vagueness of the story that's the biggest problem. Each cinematic gives this huge reveal, but leaves the details vague enough, that all we can do is speculate. Elune denies Tyrande vengeance for seemingly no other reason than plot convenience, Sylvanas claims she will never "serve", after serving Zovaal the whole time, not to mention the confusion about Elune's role in the Teldrassil incident. Not only is the Night Warrior plot wasted, there are now conspiracy theories that Elune CAUSED the burning of Teldrassil, and Sylvanas is actually the misunderstood hero. No wonder these cinematics get dislike- bombed.
Your story for Sylvanas is definitely better than what we got. I never wanted another faction war, but I would have liked BfA more, if it actually was a "morally grey" war, like the intro cinematic was advertising, with no night elf genocide to divide the Horde playerbase. Then Sylvanas could have been the Illidan of Shadowlands, and she could have gotten the redemption story WE ACTUALLY WANTED. But nope, instead we got the "Genocide Waifu".
Golden and Danuser are somehow the opposite of script doctors. They take the story and punch holes in it instead of tying stuff together.
Very tiring.
Why doesn’t Blizzard hire Nobbel so review lore and story before going through with it
I think Sylvanas saw the jailer as an equal not her boss or someone she served.
the entire cosmic war nonsense is just completely uninteresting and the wrong direction for the story, as well as being filled with fantasy tropes we've seen written much better in many other media… Blizzard WASTED so many great villains in single patches so that Danuser could rush to his Sylvanus :/
Argus/army of the light/titan revival/sargeras/alleria-turalyon/illidan-tyrande-malfurion/draenei-KJ… patch 7.3 WASTED all this (and more) in a single patch that was rushed through. Legion's final patch should have been a proper KJ fight, us properly pushing back all legion forces and end with a more personal story for the draenei as a whole and Velen. Then use argus and all that for a completely new expansion, with us taking the offensive against the legion for the first time after KJ's death, have us invading legion worlds and rebuilding the army of the light fully/reviving titans/dealing with Xe'ra in more personal level/so much more
then Azshara/Nzoth are BOTH expansions unto themselves, with so much potential and ties to one another that could have been properly expanded on in a full expansion, instead of a single patch. Nzoth getting free should have lead into a full on old god invasion of the entire planet of Azeroth, not just two zones, involving the dragons, Nya, void stuff and so much more.
Instead, blizzard wasted all that in single patches and rushed to SL -_-
and Shadowlands itself should never have been fully revealed like it has been, the loss of the mystery and mystique of warcraft's afterlife is bad for the world building… yes there are some good parts to SL's story here and there, some good characters but the rest is just a mess in how poorly written it is.
u know its bad when even nobbel….. FUCKING NOBBEL is considering doing something else
Yeah, your take is fine and I would have had nothing against it had it happend in game. But can we please stop to hype up every fanfiction, no matter how shitty, because we don't like the actual story? Same shit happend with Game of Thrones where every alternate ending was treated as a nobel price candidate
Great to ear you are here, about the story for my is fantastic because is a discovery and subversion when the player is part of the process. for instance the shadowlands is the endgame of warcraft but the beginning was far to warcraft 3 rain of chaos and warcraft 1 was the iron man. remember this was a dreadlord that say to sargeras about the void and now we now for who the dreadlord work and from were they come. the original lord back then was a mess and over the top make sense from that to new audiences is hard. now every story is part of a bigger one for that reason, i love the actual warcraft every word is part of the puzzle. just need some curiosity about it; example the tally video about the grimoire of the shadowlands and chronicle. that take time planing.
Eyir still confuses me. Shes barley mentioned in chronicle, and is painted as like the valkyrie god or something but shes not that'd be helya as the first Valkyrie. Plus that shit she said about a noble force being the one who whispered to voljin and it being beyond her power to forge something like that. Buuuuut the "noble force" was just a loa who kinda seemed to be not that powerful
BTW your version is to naive and some childes and lack the gut to be call Warcraft
Maybe (in this revised storyline) in the throne room scene, Sylvanas decides to inform Genn that his deceased son (Liam) is in the Jailor's clutches and apologizes for killing him as a means of trying to get Genn against the Jailor.
Genn: If what she (Sylvanas) says is indeed true, than we might have a bigger fight on our hands than the horde.
Jaina: Genn, don't you remember who she took from you?
Genn: I do remember. But, if Liam was still here, he would tell me to hear her out and I want to honor his memory.
You know Nobbel is disappointed when he starts expressing it with "piss-poor"
The grimtotem tribe has some interesting story and Magatha is still out there
In my opinion they should've never gone to this "afterlife", like making it so that when each person "die" they are reborn in another world, it just cheapens the death of characters in a way? not to mention how long Azeroth have been around, so there should be a ton of other souls up there. Not to say having the soul-things be real couldn't be done nicely, but they could have "grounded" it more, to the world of azeroth. Hell, make the "spirit healers" be diseased priests who guide souls back to their body, if they are not entirely gone yet. It just lessens the whole story if it keeps trying to become bigger and bigger, like at some point people will stop caring.
I rather focus on rebuilding, or stuff some small scale stories in there, hell let us clean out stratholm, or restore Andohal, hell, you can even let new sects sprout up like the twillight hammer did, or deep into Ajol'nerub kingdom. There are so many other stories to go and look at, who can be just as impactful if not more, but this whole "gods fighting with other gods" I quit, because it feels so removed, so threadmilly.
i'll still hold onto that the Purge of Dalaran was one of the best storylines they did, because it at least got people invested, discuss and converse, interesting and more nuanced than "bad guy bad." but instead had several sides that made it more nuanced. And I wouldn't mind them making horde more "evil" either, but oh well, what's done is done.
Shorel'aran dalah'surfal
Wow in less than 10 mins Nobel created a more compelling story than Blizz in years
While I like your version of the story, I would like the burning of teldrassil to still be a thing because I like a character who has flaws and I could see Sylvanas losing her sanity over time when she's being treated more like a crackpot than the leader of the horde. Part of the desperation could partially be that she needs the horde in order to stand a chance against the jailer but because she's so paranoid, she ends up sabotaging her own efforts, having emotional outbursts that lead to her being dethroned as warchief.
The solitude works for her benefit though because now she's able to concentrate fully on the task at hand and go from there.
Though part of me thinks they did all this because silvana's is just an archer, with no real powers of her own aside from those of the banshee, which are what exactly? Being able to turn into a ghost and scream really loudly. Great. Kind of shit for combat though. This is why they had her ally herself with the Jailer because she needed a power boost and resources that she couldn't find on Azeroth.
Danuser is trash therefore the story is also trash. Simple.
Hey Nobbel…. Come play FFXIV as well. Would love to see you do some lore videos there too. 🙂 Also think you'd enjoy yourself as well.