46 thoughts on “Warcraft has a HUGE Controversy with Delves”
Well whats a shock, almost like i commented this on your video some weeks ago… Delves are NOT hard at tier 8 even solo. Some content just isnt meany for bad players
Youtube really needs to fix that. Idk if you saw those two comments i made. But it was meant for a short that i had pulled up and somehow the comments came to this one. Super fckn stupid
As a long time wow player it sounds silly to hear the modern game explained.. "Why do a mythic zero when you can do a tier 8 that's that's heroic level raid gear why mess with mythic zeros." Like what..it
I loved Delvs but since they changed the scaling is just nuts, mobs with like 100M hp, i do them solo now its much easier, but kinda loses the coolness and flexibility of delves, that you can do with 3 or 4 friends
My only issue with delves being “hard” is usually dealing with a mechanic that just fucking one shots you unless you can heal through which for me, as a hunter, I can’t really do that consistently
My friend and I just had that conversation. He’s over here struggling to get groups for mythic 0s and I’m just spamming tier 8 delves until I run out of keys, and then I get more keys.
I never understood this gearing bullcrap coming from raiders , raiders kind of ruined gearing in wow , i remember 1st season of shadowlands , i was playing DH and Outlaw rogue and i could play both pvp and pve with my versa gear that i grinded in pvp and i was literally getting shitted on by raiders cause omagad you just buy your gear with arena points and its already bis while we have to farm it for weeks to actually get what we want , its not fair they should make arena gearing harder, and i was like why not make raid gearing easier lol ? raiders back when i was still raiding were like a masochist cult for me , they could wipe on a boss for literally 8 hours a day and be proud of that XD
Ive been doing Delves 11 all day solo at 599 ilvl. I really dont see the issue with them being too hard. Great solo content with a slight challange and higher tiers rewards better players. 🤷♀️
Tier 8 delves give you equivalent of normal gear, not heroic, is only the maps that gives hero, the choice is there for the players to do what they enjoy
Issue is doing tier 8 delves gives you 616 vault items doing mythic 0 gives you 603 vault items. You can get champion and if find map hero gear from delve where mythic you get veteran 593 gear?? You can do a mythic and get no loot your guarantee loot from a delve. It’s also easier than a mythic I solo them on my warrior and ret paladin tier 8 since ilv 590 and even easier now at 602ilv. It’s faster it takes less time and effort. And you get better rewards.. harder content should reward you better it’s that simple and currently the easiest content is giving the best loot atm that is the issue
wow the singleplayer game… raids shud always provide the best gear in the game and after m+ provided the same gear raids in just ran like 2 times now ,1 time for the clear and 1 time for all the achievements, and then you farm m+ and now delves for gear, ruined the game
Got my prot warrior from 584 to 601 in 1 day doing delves. (Before and after reset for bountiful) did those and unlocked a full row of 616 vault. Then just spammed 7s for 4 crests per run for upgrades to 606. Stupid fast as a prot warrior doing them solo- can do a T7 in under 10 minutes most of the time.. m0 I have to rely on others who half the time don’t know mechanics etc. honestly might even just spam 8s when all my gear is 606 to upgrade to 616 instead of doing +4 keys lol
Got my prot warrior from 584 to 601 in 1 day doing delves. (Before and after reset for bountiful) did those and unlocked a full row of 616 vault. Then just spammed 7s for 4 crests per run for upgrades to 606. Stupid fast as a prot warrior doing them solo- can do a T7 in under 10 minutes most of the time.. m0 I have to rely on others who half the time don’t know mechanics etc. honestly might even just spam 8s when all my gear is 606 to upgrade to 616 instead of doing +4 keys lol
Games dead. Stop giving blizzard money. I storngly belive 2 things. 1. People are legit addicted like drugs to world of warcraft and you should sue. 2. You play the game for a living for content and without said content your channel would not longer be relevant because the addicted players are your whole fan base. Maybe a 3. Your new to the gsme and have never played. Blizzard feeds yall shit ass content and jokes you bu dropeding a mount for 60$ and watch yall eat it up
Why do people take it this way? I'm a mythic andy and i appreciate delves so much. I myself dont do mythic dungeon grindings for just ' gears ', i play for the ratings and the loot is just a bonus. Youre take on this is questionable acc to me, L take in fact. Mythic dungeon progression is all about that rating and nothing else. Most people wont even be as good as me with the same ilvl gear, they'll be stuck at ksm and hover around 2.8k ish ratings and that's it.
It’s easy some ppl like to play in groups others like to play solo also some ppl hate trying to find groups that actually no what to do in M0 it’s not a hat concept to follow
This is the most stupidest take I've ever heard and this dude has no idea what he is talking about. Yes you can get heroic level but only if you have used a map, have a key, and you completed a bountiful lvl 8. Without the map its only champion and without the key maybe adventure gear. That's why you do mythic 0. Always a venturing drop and more options for tier in vault. Don't listen to this guy. Just amazing stupidity.
I’d say delves are in a fine state. You can get only champ level gear from delves except if you get a rare map drop. So delves are at best right now roughly same to normal raid and low mythic plus. Delves immediately are less valuable once you get to heroic raid and 7+ mythic plus. It’s more in my opinion a way for people to do content by themselves that gives them good gear if they don’t wanna do the “stressful” environments of m+ or raid
I love wow, but gatekeeping gear is such an outdated model. Final Fantasy does this perfectly; which I believe is one of the larger reasons it has surpassed wow and stats ahead. Feels more rewarding for the player.
Well whats a shock, almost like i commented this on your video some weeks ago… Delves are NOT hard at tier 8 even solo. Some content just isnt meany for bad players
Youtube really needs to fix that. Idk if you saw those two comments i made. But it was meant for a short that i had pulled up and somehow the comments came to this one. Super fckn stupid
As a long time wow player it sounds silly to hear the modern game explained.. "Why do a mythic zero when you can do a tier 8 that's that's heroic level raid gear why mess with mythic zeros." Like what..it
Wow is dead
Lol its solo content that cant really be soloed an now its harder in groups AND STILL just as hard solo amazing hotfix
F mythics
I loved Delvs but since they changed the scaling is just nuts, mobs with like 100M hp, i do them solo now its much easier, but kinda loses the coolness and flexibility of delves, that you can do with 3 or 4 friends
All I get from delves are necks and rings plus there are some stat specific gear in mythics. ilevel isn’t always king
Delves should be easier then the recent hotfix and the drops should be less then m0 imo
I thought of M0s as "yeah the gear's a little worse but theyre practice for next week when you get your teeth kicked in by +5 Nerub Lords
My only issue with delves being “hard” is usually dealing with a mechanic that just fucking one shots you unless you can heal through which for me, as a hunter, I can’t really do that consistently
Delves were fun, but blizz detected that fun and ssid…..NO
It's inherently balanced against mythics by being limited to Bountiful Chests and with limited crest drops. The mythic crowd will still do mythics.
It's wow retail wtf did u expect. Jus quit already
My friend and I just had that conversation. He’s over here struggling to get groups for mythic 0s and I’m just spamming tier 8 delves until I run out of keys, and then I get more keys.
I love the delvs
The problem is if they make Delves to easy raiders and m+ players will complain that casuals and solo types have a way to get gear.
T7 is tolerable. T8 is not.
Delves and follower dungeons should be expanded upon. Feels like the way moving forward for anyone casual or looking to play on their own time.
I never understood this gearing bullcrap coming from raiders , raiders kind of ruined gearing in wow , i remember 1st season of shadowlands , i was playing DH and Outlaw rogue and i could play both pvp and pve with my versa gear that i grinded in pvp and i was literally getting shitted on by raiders cause omagad you just buy your gear with arena points and its already bis while we have to farm it for weeks to actually get what we want , its not fair they should make arena gearing harder, and i was like why not make raid gearing easier lol ? raiders back when i was still raiding were like a masochist cult for me , they could wipe on a boss for literally 8 hours a day and be proud of that XD
Ive been doing Delves 11 all day solo at 599 ilvl. I really dont see the issue with them being too hard. Great solo content with a slight challange and higher tiers rewards better players. 🤷♀️
The m0's are for practice. Getting to know the dungeons before the m+ content comes out
Good, fuck mythic 0s. We need options
The concept was for solo players.
Tier 8 delves give you equivalent of normal gear, not heroic, is only the maps that gives hero, the choice is there for the players to do what they enjoy
Issue is doing tier 8 delves gives you 616 vault items doing mythic 0 gives you 603 vault items. You can get champion and if find map hero gear from delve where mythic you get veteran 593 gear?? You can do a mythic and get no loot your guarantee loot from a delve. It’s also easier than a mythic I solo them on my warrior and ret paladin tier 8 since ilv 590 and even easier now at 602ilv. It’s faster it takes less time and effort. And you get better rewards.. harder content should reward you better it’s that simple and currently the easiest content is giving the best loot atm that is the issue
wow the singleplayer game… raids shud always provide the best gear in the game and after m+ provided the same gear raids in just ran like 2 times now ,1 time for the clear and 1 time for all the achievements, and then you farm m+ and now delves for gear, ruined the game
lmao git gud, i soloed this t8 ez no hotfix or with hotfix use heal bran with pots is op.
Tell us what you think is communicating. Wtf. If the morons testing dont say anything….
I just spec swap to tank and clear the delves on 8 all day. I couldn’t do it on dps spec though.
Why would you do a delve when you can do mythic +4-5
Got my prot warrior from 584 to 601 in 1 day doing delves. (Before and after reset for bountiful) did those and unlocked a full row of 616 vault. Then just spammed 7s for 4 crests per run for upgrades to 606. Stupid fast as a prot warrior doing them solo- can do a T7 in under 10 minutes most of the time.. m0 I have to rely on others who half the time don’t know mechanics etc. honestly might even just spam 8s when all my gear is 606 to upgrade to 616 instead of doing +4 keys lol
Got my prot warrior from 584 to 601 in 1 day doing delves. (Before and after reset for bountiful) did those and unlocked a full row of 616 vault. Then just spammed 7s for 4 crests per run for upgrades to 606. Stupid fast as a prot warrior doing them solo- can do a T7 in under 10 minutes most of the time.. m0 I have to rely on others who half the time don’t know mechanics etc. honestly might even just spam 8s when all my gear is 606 to upgrade to 616 instead of doing +4 keys lol
Completed T8 and got 616 from vault was i not suppose to?
Blizzard doesn't give a flying fk about what players want, trash game quit years ago
Games dead. Stop giving blizzard money. I storngly belive 2 things. 1. People are legit addicted like drugs to world of warcraft and you should sue. 2. You play the game for a living for content and without said content your channel would not longer be relevant because the addicted players are your whole fan base. Maybe a 3. Your new to the gsme and have never played. Blizzard feeds yall shit ass content and jokes you bu dropeding a mount for 60$ and watch yall eat it up
Why do people take it this way? I'm a mythic andy and i appreciate delves so much. I myself dont do mythic dungeon grindings for just ' gears ', i play for the ratings and the loot is just a bonus. Youre take on this is questionable acc to me, L take in fact. Mythic dungeon progression is all about that rating and nothing else. Most people wont even be as good as me with the same ilvl gear, they'll be stuck at ksm and hover around 2.8k ish ratings and that's it.
It’s easy some ppl like to play in groups others like to play solo also some ppl hate trying to find groups that actually no what to do in M0 it’s not a hat concept to follow
They need to remove this difficulty shit
This is the most stupidest take I've ever heard and this dude has no idea what he is talking about. Yes you can get heroic level but only if you have used a map, have a key, and you completed a bountiful lvl 8. Without the map its only champion and without the key maybe adventure gear. That's why you do mythic 0. Always a venturing drop and more options for tier in vault. Don't listen to this guy. Just amazing stupidity.
Why do mythics and deal with the toxic playerbase, when i can do delves solo or with a friend or two
I’d say delves are in a fine state. You can get only champ level gear from delves except if you get a rare map drop. So delves are at best right now roughly same to normal raid and low mythic plus. Delves immediately are less valuable once you get to heroic raid and 7+ mythic plus. It’s more in my opinion a way for people to do content by themselves that gives them good gear if they don’t wanna do the “stressful” environments of m+ or raid
I love wow, but gatekeeping gear is such an outdated model. Final Fantasy does this perfectly; which I believe is one of the larger reasons it has surpassed wow and stats ahead. Feels more rewarding for the player.
Community is toxic. Why do M0 when you can avoid it and actually enjoy the game for a change. Imagine that
it’s because they don’t give a fuck what you think about it nor have they ever in the history of the game
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