38 thoughts on “Why is all the best Warcraft Gear Gated behind M+ and Raids”
Thats not a fantastic spot. Thats bottom of the barrel with no upgrade path without doing the other content. This means 2 months ago, you were done with the season. With many alts. You missed the point of the question by diverting the answer towards what blizzard set for us but not what the people want now. If someone chooses to play solo, they should make the gear attainable. Thats the point.
What you have to do is Press I and go to the Mythic tab. Now go to the dungeon tab, all the way to the bottom do each dungeon from 0 to as high as you can go. You need an I.O. score to be noticed unless you are a meta class doing big peen damage. If you can solo delves do so, get all champion tier gear. Do LFR to see if you have any luck, do world quests, do the weekly's, Upgrade 4 pieces to tier, would be best if the piece is Hero tier or higher, but nothing lower than Champion, in my opinion. I have played the game for about 18 years, I prefer casual content like gold making, using gold to pay for my sub since WoD is fun to me.
It’s definitely a good spot imo. I just beat tier 2 Zekvir with a 610 shadow priest. It took about 9 minutes on the successful run, but I thought I wouldn’t beat him unless I do mythic and get higher gear. I’ve only been doing delves for gearing at this point, so I feel satisfied and feel like I’ve beaten the single player experience. Now I’m off to make more alts.
It’s almost like they give better stuff for harder Content that’s such a new concept people get over yourselves. You don’t get stuff for free. You get what you earn and you don’t pitch a fit with what you have.
Why do you need the best gear to do a content that doesn't require the best gear at all ? Works both ways. People want free loot at this point i don't get it…
I have a real question for you I have been aware of what you just said but my delema is like what a recent video of yours talked about is guilds I played sod with a guild and enjoyed it then I joined late with them in tww and allready commited to the guild but they said I can't heroic raid with them bc there allready 4/8 on mythic please give me your opinions should i leave and join a heroic guild should i stay puging and have a horrible experience until next season what should I do and im 606 ilvl
Hot take: Wow sets the bar too high in terms of difficulty. Imagine if you could get max level gear from doing +6 keys and Heroic raids. It would be pretty accessible. But locking mythic track gear behind 10 keys and mythic raid? That's not accessible.
Wow is not an esport. We don't need to be rewarding only the top 5% of players.
I got in to a guild the leader came to me he said we are not elite but he keep pushing me wanted to give me gold to get better gear I just did not like that. Every thing takes times you gotta to low ones have people talk you through it and test things before you go on the big things. Nothing can be rushed or pushed all gotta go slow work up to it.
Why would you want end level geear if you are only doing mid level content, or even lower. You get gear according to the level you play at, its a good system. I enjoy mythic raiding and im geared like crazy on that char, And i enjoy my delve geared character that just keeps that current content interresting. It wouldnt be fun outgearing content constantly. Takes the fun out of it.
I think casual it’s more fun. I get to farm and with delves and vault and solo content I’m 8 heroic pieces up. I get to farm gold and now I bought me the $90 dollar mount with gold. Now that is awesome.
This is why I quit WoW. In the past you secured PvP gear by doing battle grounds and arenas. It was EASY. And ai adores battlegrounds which is the only reason I played. They changed where the top gear is acquired through PVE
This pretty much ignores the fact that most people at that item level will have to pug. They won't have friends at that ilvl who are capable of progressing in a timely manner. Yet they won't get accepted into groups. It's going to be a tough slog for them, something a lot of people are deciding isn't worth endlessly beating your head against the wall.
I got PvP gear. I'm going to be farming old content. I feel sorry for people who are stuck in that hellscape.
I've been playing vanilla for a while and I've never had so much fun. Sure, a lot of things are more tedious, but leveling feels like an adventure and gear feels meaningful. When you get that first blue helnet you cum not once but twice.
I’m mostly a solo player, I do DGs and Raids only to fill up my vault slots and even then I’m not hard pressed to fully max out all nine slots. Casually playing and honor farming because I enjoy PvP got me to 605, can solo most T8 delves (Korabyss one’s a bit tough) but it’s great because now they drop pretty decent ilvl gear that is warband bound, making it easier for my other toons to catch up. I recognize there’s only so much higher my ilvl can raise before max and without doing a single Mythic I think 605 isn’t too bad.
One tip I would suggest is the Conquest PvP armor, the last three seasons that’s what helps me catch up with the rest of the content
Thats not a fantastic spot. Thats bottom of the barrel with no upgrade path without doing the other content. This means 2 months ago, you were done with the season. With many alts. You missed the point of the question by diverting the answer towards what blizzard set for us but not what the people want now. If someone chooses to play solo, they should make the gear attainable. Thats the point.
What you have to do is Press I and go to the Mythic tab. Now go to the dungeon tab, all the way to the bottom do each dungeon from 0 to as high as you can go. You need an I.O. score to be noticed unless you are a meta class doing big peen damage. If you can solo delves do so, get all champion tier gear. Do LFR to see if you have any luck, do world quests, do the weekly's, Upgrade 4 pieces to tier, would be best if the piece is Hero tier or higher, but nothing lower than Champion, in my opinion. I have played the game for about 18 years, I prefer casual content like gold making, using gold to pay for my sub since WoD is fun to me.
It’s definitely a good spot imo. I just beat tier 2 Zekvir with a 610 shadow priest. It took about 9 minutes on the successful run, but I thought I wouldn’t beat him unless I do mythic and get higher gear. I’ve only been doing delves for gearing at this point, so I feel satisfied and feel like I’ve beaten the single player experience. Now I’m off to make more alts.
and that is exactly where I am
u can get 619 without touching m+ or raiding at all
It's a grind baby u do lil u get lil you do the most u get it
Sionz what is your favourite raid of all time
Next patch takes you out from the game because you’ll not be meta anymore. 😁 I go even further…next expansion becomes worthless 🤣
I speak from experience. 😒
I agree with you. What i don't agree with are all the addons needed 😭
It does suck that im at 2.5k in bgb and dont get anything
It’s almost like they give better stuff for harder Content that’s such a new concept people get over yourselves. You don’t get stuff for free. You get what you earn and you don’t pitch a fit with what you have.
Why do you need the best gear to do a content that doesn't require the best gear at all ? Works both ways. People want free loot at this point i don't get it…
Disagree it's full of toxic scum. Raiding is way more social.
why do u need better gear if u don't want to play harder content? or why do u deserve better things when you only want to do easy things
I have a real question for you I have been aware of what you just said but my delema is like what a recent video of yours talked about is guilds I played sod with a guild and enjoyed it then I joined late with them in tww and allready commited to the guild but they said I can't heroic raid with them bc there allready 4/8 on mythic please give me your opinions should i leave and join a heroic guild should i stay puging and have a horrible experience until next season what should I do and im 606 ilvl
It's simple, you want the best gear? Work for it, quit whining and being lazy.
Hot take: Wow sets the bar too high in terms of difficulty. Imagine if you could get max level gear from doing +6 keys and Heroic raids. It would be pretty accessible. But locking mythic track gear behind 10 keys and mythic raid? That's not accessible.
Wow is not an esport. We don't need to be rewarding only the top 5% of players.
I got in to a guild the leader came to me he said we are not elite but he keep pushing me wanted to give me gold to get better gear I just did not like that. Every thing takes times you gotta to low ones have people talk you through it and test things before you go on the big things. Nothing can be rushed or pushed all gotta go slow work up to it.
The question we need to be asking is why do I need to do mythic raiding to do m+ but never do m+ to do mythic raiding 💀
Main is 619 and current alt is 609, i barely do anything.
ilevel gear ruined WoW. You guys lost touch with what WoW was about
Nowadays I just get to an item level between normal and heroic and I’m happy
Why would you want end level geear if you are only doing mid level content, or even lower.
You get gear according to the level you play at, its a good system.
I enjoy mythic raiding and im geared like crazy on that char, And i enjoy my delve geared character that just keeps that current content interresting.
It wouldnt be fun outgearing content constantly. Takes the fun out of it.
I agree want power work for it
I think casual it’s more fun. I get to farm and with delves and vault and solo content I’m 8 heroic pieces up. I get to farm gold and now I bought me the $90 dollar mount with gold. Now that is awesome.
I quit wow bc tanking people r so mean lol screw em if im not wanted ill go back to cod
There is just to much going on in retail… classic all the way
This is why I quit WoW. In the past you secured PvP gear by doing battle grounds and arenas. It was EASY. And ai adores battlegrounds which is the only reason I played. They changed where the top gear is acquired through PVE
Except how wow makes grinding fucking miserable. Tiny drop rates for items EVERYONE fights over. End game content sucks ass
This pretty much ignores the fact that most people at that item level will have to pug. They won't have friends at that ilvl who are capable of progressing in a timely manner. Yet they won't get accepted into groups. It's going to be a tough slog for them, something a lot of people are deciding isn't worth endlessly beating your head against the wall.
I got PvP gear. I'm going to be farming old content. I feel sorry for people who are stuck in that hellscape.
The problem is it’s a major gamble. At least in old wow we got a currency we could buy gear with the stats we wanted.
I remember when i used to raid all the time. Today, I like to do quest and just level my toons up.
“Why do I have to do the hardest stuff for the best gear”
The fact that your actually answering this question which screams lack of common sense and lack of a brain, shows the same qualities with you 😂
This is like asking why do I have to be the last man alive or team alive to win in a battle Royale.
Why do I have to push the gas pedal to make my care move?
Why do I have to eat to sustain myself?
You shouldn’t be supporting brain rot questions, unless you yourself have brain rot obviously.
" why do I have to play the game to get rewards" lmao what an absurd question
I never do mythic cause the hassle finding a group as a starting player (617) feels really shut-off….
615 and no raiding or M+
I've been playing vanilla for a while and I've never had so much fun. Sure, a lot of things are more tedious, but leveling feels like an adventure and gear feels meaningful. When you get that first blue helnet you cum not once but twice.
I’m mostly a solo player, I do DGs and Raids only to fill up my vault slots and even then I’m not hard pressed to fully max out all nine slots. Casually playing and honor farming because I enjoy PvP got me to 605, can solo most T8 delves (Korabyss one’s a bit tough) but it’s great because now they drop pretty decent ilvl gear that is warband bound, making it easier for my other toons to catch up. I recognize there’s only so much higher my ilvl can raise before max and without doing a single Mythic I think 605 isn’t too bad.
One tip I would suggest is the Conquest PvP armor, the last three seasons that’s what helps me catch up with the rest of the content