22 thoughts on “Why there are so many DPS in Warcraft”
Good points. You just have to ignore when someone is toxic. I literally /ignore them rest of run. And if the person who has the key is the one being toxic, I'll just quick HS and join another group. The upside of being a tank is that I get accepted into any key I sign up for. I normally sign up for one key and then close the window and wait for the invite.
On top of class imbalances, you'll even get pre-judged or outright avoided while playing certain classes/specializations for mythics. I'm finding myself burning out already and thinking about hanging up the towel. Mages ruined PVP until you're nearly BiS. The raid system is stupid now as a lot of people require 620+ while still having people unaware of what to do. So, making a new class to try a different tank/healer almost seems pointless rn as you can't get into any decent groups. I'm burnt out on farming gold and mounts. Everything combined makes me not even want to log in anymore. Started my druid, got it decently geared first, then made a monk, and now it's sitting at 616 ilvl, and I also have restro shaman sitting at 608. That many characters, while I still don't necessarily feel like I'm playing the right one. The shaman and druid are now considered undergeared, and it's hard to get into good soild raid groups. The community is toxic; Lord help you if your heals/dps is 100k less than the next person. Monks have a horrible aggro issue, depending on the swap time with cds they can easily lose aggro without a way to get it back until taunt is off CD which is 8 long seconds. Plus they're trash while tanking high mythics.
In keys up to +8, dps don't have to be all that good. Just do big numbers and occasionally cc. In that same key range, the tank/heals need to know the route, pull correctly, and be competent enough to not die. It's intimidating and since your average player has never done that, they just assumes it's easy. Your average player is also just bad at the game and egotistical.
The gap between a regular good healer and an amazing healer is way too large. You join a pug and have a healer that's constantly oom but make it. Then next pug you have a gg healer that's shaming your group's dps, keeps everyone alive effortlesly and never breaks for a drink…
lol as these comments. Do better people if you don’t brick a key you will not get flamed. If you are not capable there are delves and lfr for you, don’t jump in the ring with the big boys
In my experience everyone is treated badly even in 5 man normal runs. I have the expectation that if I’m pugging 5 man normals players are not going to know tactics, it’s going to be messy and players will die. I’d expect heroics to be a bit better but still messy. The attitude of some players were so bad that It stopped me from doing dungeon runs in DragonFlight as it got so bad. You are right though in that tanks and healers are treated extremely badly and it’s such an unnecessary experience to go through.
i havent tanked or healed anything crazy since wotlk when i had an amaazing guild and group of friends from vanilla through tbc and wotlk, they encouraged me to tank and heal and also use a mic, as a disabled kid with cerebral palsy i never thought id be on vent tanking raids every week and doing arenas as a hybrid healer dps druid lol fun times! my life got fked up big time at the end of wotlk and i lost my home and family the day after my 15th bday and when i finally got back to wow after my uncle gave me a laptop to watch him stream and play a game he liked, i checked back in on wow after like… 5 years or so maybe 6 and sadly only a few people i knew still played, guild split up and a lot of people quit after the guild had a few big loses, our healers were a married couple and the one, bionicbetty had passed away from cancer and her husband couldnt play without crying as all of the guild, she was amazing, everyone in the guild was amazing people. lot quit and some just moved to other realms to get into serious guilds to push for world firsts and other stuff, before battle net was a thing so if they werent friends on facebook or we lost touch lol havent found a good guild since, but this xpac i have made toons on other servers and am pushing mythic, raiding and pvp and hoping to find a good group but just pugging now, a lot harder to form friendships and find a guild now i think, ones like we had during vanilla, tbc and wotlk. lol i will tell you what dude, pugging rbgs during sl and df was crazy. so toxic. being called a r tard and hearing go kys and being kicked before ever even playing a match was a nightly occurrence lmao they hear my voice and boom its on xD but ive met a lot of good people that way too, but not many seem to be playing this xpac, weird lol
I love healing but I'm just having so much problems with tanks. They pull wall to wall and once they touch the mobs they don't touch again to keep aggro on them, DPS never interrupt, and tanks blame the healer for dying because they don't pop CDs in trash. Got kicked for telling the tank to pull in smaller packs if he can't handle it
I've been told I sucks and been kicked from dungeons and raids as a new player. It hurts and makes me want to stop playing. I've had a few players reach out and offer help but they are far in between.
Buff tanks and healers to the point that more people want to play them. No one wants to learn a harder spec, have more responsibility, AND get more hate from other players for 0 gain.
Having mained a holy priest since January 2008, can confirm. I hate pugging as a healer. I’d rather just wait and group with my friends and farm mounts and transmogs, or level alts in the mean time.
It’s also because playing DPS is much more fun. I’ve mained a tank since WOTLK.. every expac.. and this is the first I’ve also focused on my rogue. and I am having a BLAST!
Tanks have to know the mechanics more than dps who typically can just watch to not stand in stuff. Healers have to play a mini game where they aren’t looking at their character but bars on a screen.
Good points. You just have to ignore when someone is toxic. I literally /ignore them rest of run. And if the person who has the key is the one being toxic, I'll just quick HS and join another group. The upside of being a tank is that I get accepted into any key I sign up for. I normally sign up for one key and then close the window and wait for the invite.
On top of class imbalances, you'll even get pre-judged or outright avoided while playing certain classes/specializations for mythics. I'm finding myself burning out already and thinking about hanging up the towel. Mages ruined PVP until you're nearly BiS. The raid system is stupid now as a lot of people require 620+ while still having people unaware of what to do. So, making a new class to try a different tank/healer almost seems pointless rn as you can't get into any decent groups. I'm burnt out on farming gold and mounts. Everything combined makes me not even want to log in anymore. Started my druid, got it decently geared first, then made a monk, and now it's sitting at 616 ilvl, and I also have restro shaman sitting at 608. That many characters, while I still don't necessarily feel like I'm playing the right one. The shaman and druid are now considered undergeared, and it's hard to get into good soild raid groups. The community is toxic; Lord help you if your heals/dps is 100k less than the next person. Monks have a horrible aggro issue, depending on the swap time with cds they can easily lose aggro without a way to get it back until taunt is off CD which is 8 long seconds. Plus they're trash while tanking high mythics.
In keys up to +8, dps don't have to be all that good. Just do big numbers and occasionally cc. In that same key range, the tank/heals need to know the route, pull correctly, and be competent enough to not die. It's intimidating and since your average player has never done that, they just assumes it's easy. Your average player is also just bad at the game and egotistical.
The gap between a regular good healer and an amazing healer is way too large.
You join a pug and have a healer that's constantly oom but make it.
Then next pug you have a gg healer that's shaming your group's dps, keeps everyone alive effortlesly and never breaks for a drink…
lol as these comments. Do better people if you don’t brick a key you will not get flamed. If you are not capable there are delves and lfr for you, don’t jump in the ring with the big boys
I stay out of mythic plus fuck all that
Tank players are true chads, and they are allowed to make mistakes bc tanking is hard. Im not even being sarcastic. I mean it! 😂❤
In my experience everyone is treated badly even in 5 man normal runs. I have the expectation that if I’m pugging 5 man normals players are not going to know tactics, it’s going to be messy and players will die. I’d expect heroics to be a bit better but still messy. The attitude of some players were so bad that It stopped me from doing dungeon runs in DragonFlight as it got so bad. You are right though in that tanks and healers are treated extremely badly and it’s such an unnecessary experience to go through.
i havent tanked or healed anything crazy since wotlk when i had an amaazing guild and group of friends from vanilla through tbc and wotlk, they encouraged me to tank and heal and also use a mic, as a disabled kid with cerebral palsy i never thought id be on vent tanking raids every week and doing arenas as a hybrid healer dps druid lol fun times! my life got fked up big time at the end of wotlk and i lost my home and family the day after my 15th bday and when i finally got back to wow after my uncle gave me a laptop to watch him stream and play a game he liked, i checked back in on wow after like… 5 years or so maybe 6 and sadly only a few people i knew still played, guild split up and a lot of people quit after the guild had a few big loses, our healers were a married couple and the one, bionicbetty had passed away from cancer and her husband couldnt play without crying as all of the guild, she was amazing, everyone in the guild was amazing people. lot quit and some just moved to other realms to get into serious guilds to push for world firsts and other stuff, before battle net was a thing so if they werent friends on facebook or we lost touch lol havent found a good guild since, but this xpac i have made toons on other servers and am pushing mythic, raiding and pvp and hoping to find a good group but just pugging now, a lot harder to form friendships and find a guild now i think, ones like we had during vanilla, tbc and wotlk. lol i will tell you what dude, pugging rbgs during sl and df was crazy. so toxic. being called a r tard and hearing go kys and being kicked before ever even playing a match was a nightly occurrence lmao they hear my voice and boom its on xD but ive met a lot of good people that way too, but not many seem to be playing this xpac, weird lol
Dps get just as much abuse lol. Its because people dont want their mistakes to be visible, which is hard when youre a tank or healer
just be good and dont suck
I think if you main a healer or tank class you should get a 15% discount on your monthly sub. I see the flaws but the fallacy is nice.
I love healing but I'm just having so much problems with tanks. They pull wall to wall and once they touch the mobs they don't touch again to keep aggro on them, DPS never interrupt, and tanks blame the healer for dying because they don't pop CDs in trash. Got kicked for telling the tank to pull in smaller packs if he can't handle it
I've been told I sucks and been kicked from dungeons and raids as a new player. It hurts and makes me want to stop playing. I've had a few players reach out and offer help but they are far in between.
Of course the healer fault was it
Wow sucks that's why , buch of patatos
Buff tanks and healers to the point that more people want to play them. No one wants to learn a harder spec, have more responsibility, AND get more hate from other players for 0 gain.
Having mained a holy priest since January 2008, can confirm. I hate pugging as a healer. I’d rather just wait and group with my friends and farm mounts and transmogs, or level alts in the mean time.
It’s also because playing DPS is much more fun. I’ve mained a tank since WOTLK.. every expac.. and this is the first I’ve also focused on my rogue. and I am having a BLAST!
Imagine paying 15$ a month AND SUCKING xD
Tanks have to know the mechanics more than dps who typically can just watch to not stand in stuff. Healers have to play a mini game where they aren’t looking at their character but bars on a screen.
People are bad at the game and will blame every mistake on you. The telling me i suck thing doesnt bother me