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They should move the early start to all pre-orders, otherwise this is a bad look imo.
TLDR: Bell predicts an 18 month expansion schedule so you get more content per sub time frame.
and the boost itself for just one character now days costs 60 euro's on eu, that's more than the entire expansion. That is insane. By that logic if they include a boost in pre-order, the expansion itself is for free and you are just buying the boost, at least on base edition
Tbh i dont care about the price. I play this game since 14 years and spend so much time in it. Like its still a few cents per hour maximum. Its always gonna be one of the cheapest hobbys you can have.
I really only think the early access is a big problem because it's a live service, multiplayer game. In the cases of single player games, like when people were upset about the Hogwarts Legacy early access, I don't think it matters very much.
At this point blizzard should pay the players who still play this garbage.
I'm very happy with WoW right now.
there is no way the early access wont be a boost in progression. if someone hits max level before it goes live they will be getting gear, etc before anyone.
The most cost effective way they could improve retail and draw in more players would simply be to implement Hardcore servers on retail.
I am making this comment 9 minutes in.
"Is WoW more expensive?" No, it isn't.
The real question is: "Is WoW expensive?" Yes, absolutely.
WoW, much like a lot of other hobbies out there, expensive and are just time and money sinks. The game might be fun and the story entertaining, but it is still just a money and time sink at the end of the day. Given how the video game market is and the direction it is going, the game will more than likely grow to be overall more expensive but having even more little things to make the price feel worth it. The little gizmos and toys you get with each edition of the game may round out to being somewhat reasonable to the hardcore collectors; however, with this recent trend of major gaming industries capitalizing on the player's want to get into the game "early" (quotes around early as this is not really them saying the initial release date is on one day, but rather the game will release but have normal players have to wait three days to actually play it) the game and several other notable games will just keep having this happen. I doubt anything will change from this. We are all gonna be mad and remain mad, but we are still the suckers who shovel a lot of money to our corporates overlords that feeds us shovelware and keeps the cogs of the economy going.
Oh great, even more content. Pity I have no interest in playing retail.
I’m really so sick of this doomsaying shit from all the players
Dream patch is waay too small and too grindy. Shadowlands all over again.. Sigh
I bought the cheap one for the boost and gear.
Are you guys ever gonna talk about Season of Discovery?
never coming back. I feel physically sick hearing any wow content.
2021: 500 pound failed grad student eating an entire XL pizza while arguing about Power Infusion targets with my guild
2023: almost 300 pound, 3x lift strength, working on compsci internships, still thinking of mom that passed in 2022 while I was raiding sepulcher for 10month/250 hours of prog
Would you go back? lol. What a shitshow.
'there is… a rumbling'
Steady now Eren
Dragonflight was such a letdown I won’t even consider buying another expac
Man im so glad wow is still Alive had so much memories When i did alot of cocaine and played it 🙂
Just play FF14 you poor, abused Wow players.
Dragonflight content are one time events, worthless content. Dragonflight is terrible for value😢
But But But in 10.1, contents dried out less than a month and 10.2 seem to be the same. So assume most ppl login on every major patch day and spend only $15 to play the whole patch content but now ppl have to pay $49.99+$15 for every major patch. How is this cheaper than before?
we have no choice my as dont listen to this solld out guy you have the only saying in thins matter, if a dev want to increase or make stupid changes then they can play therir money grabing game alone
The three day head start is complete garbage. Shame on you blizzard. There are no reasonable excuses for this behavior.
Is that music nerd wink wink @7:23? Wasn't expecting Adam Neely bass sound.
I will decide whether all this is worth it or not when Microsoft fully shows what they plan to do with Blizzard franchises, with WoW in particular. I think Microsoft has a very big shot to make this game very appealing to the masses, they should also adjust the prices of this game for all the regions because just like how you min/max content per expansion timeframe based on USD we pay, not everyone pays the same money for the same thing in EU or NA. Microsoft adjusts their prices vey fairly and recently Blizzard has been very aggressive with their pricing. Final Fantasy 14 didn't update their prices but with inflation alone, since you pay with USD, the monthly fee basically changes evey few weeks and it always gets worse. I think Microsoft should act swiftly and explain to playerbase what they want to do with WoW before the Worldsoul Saga starts.
I'm not a fan of this new business model, not for pure monitory reasons though. It's this break neck speed they want you to consume the game with now is extremely unhealthy. The value proposition sounds good on paper but in practice you are going to have to spend all you free time playing wow to get through the content you are buying. They don't want people to come up for air. The slow bleed isn't enough for them any more they are trying to bleed the retail players faster and faster instead of encouraging new players to join the game, it really just whaling at this point.
The entire design cycle produces less and less evergreen content and at some points in retails history straight up removed it either outright or stripping it of it's replayability. The new direction at least acknowledges this is the case with more and more account wise stuff but the problem is now you're basically pre paying for frequent mini games instead of true expansions.
Time is money, friend!
The three days is a pretty moot point to me, it really only makes a difference to the hardest of hardcore players…and they want those people to buy the fanciest edition.
That being said, to me it’s a near useless perk…i much rather have a unique mount or transmog and not get the early access.
with blizz.. early access means you will be constantly D/C and dealing with server shut downs, and impromptu maintenance. DONT buy it lol.. teach them a lesson AND save yourself the frustration.
The shill is strong with this one. Don’t know how you even sleep at night. Assuming it’s on a pillow made of whatever money the Bliz marketing department is paying you.
The state of m+ is an absolute joke. There is zero Challenge to it. If you cant get to atleast +19 you are literally just stupid. We need more affixes and in general it needs to scale harder the higher the key lvl goes.
I've only ever played one expansion day one. Because it was Warlords I gave it another try when Classic launched. Logged out after 10 minutes and waited few days for number of people in starting zone to drop to managable levels. I'm not paying extra to participate in day one experience.
the video is missing the fact that you pay a faster rate of expansion $$$ so it isnt a better deal because the subscription money gets cancels out with more expansion money .. I am sure its less value no?
more crying about a completly optional thing that gives you absolutely no advantage at all. just dont buy it and stop complaining. it isnt going away. just ignore it and do your own thing. its not that hard. gamers are a bunch of crybabies these days
Adam Neely unlocked.
I think it’s okay. I’m happy if they can earn more money from it so they can keep improving the game and offer other adventures in WoW universe as classic or classic +… the worst for MMORPG loosing players… more players more fun… For upper casual player as myself, it’s good… monetise on players who are willing to pay and let others who don’t care about mounts and transmogs enjoy a good game 😉
I want to see Vale restored again, but not just, oh it's fixed, but through story questing with cool rewards.
I think that it's an interesting turnaround I think that what they're going to do is instead of milking the cow dry now they're trying to get blood from a stone after squandering years of player trust and then brand name now for them to come back around and talk about how they were mistaken for not investing more in World of Warcraft I think that it's going to now be even worse because they're openly monetizing in such a aggressive manner
early access in a game like this is a very dificult thing to do, since it's only gatekeeping content, look at the professions atm, people who come and start playing now barely can compete with anyone in professions, with a 3 day start it's making professions dead on arrival, as an example.
They always fail Launches, it's too much people in the servers at the same time.
For me, at least, the Epic edition should only be cosmetic, boost in the base game? why? they are throwing a "new player" right into the latest content without any clue about their classes/spec, if they made the boost to heroic+ only, it already value but if they really want to keep the boost in the basegame make the epic with instead of 30day bonus make it 60 days
The thing that bothers me the most with editions, is that the basic edition doesn't come with game time. I think every edition should come with 30 days game time and not only heroic or epic or whatever.
Because you need the gametime either way. The fact that it isn't in there is costing them people who are on the fence about an expansion.
leveling boost is useless in a 20 year old game.
It's only a good value if I would receive all the content after BFA (when I left). If not, then it is a complete rip-off.
If they’d just said, our top end packs are going to be more expensive to support our increased staffing for design and patch development I think people would not actually have a problem with that
It's rather simple to explain:
When they lack playerbase and detect another downwards trends, they add the Boost on the base edt. to get more player in.
I don't like the Early Access addition to the Epic Edition, but I do take some umbrage with the idea that it's selling you the "true" launch date. For one, they haven't made the Epic Edition more expensive in order to facilitate this, so it really is an additional perk added to the Dragonflight bundle at no extra cost, therefor it does add value to the Epic Edition. The release date is the same, those that buy the Epic Edition are now just getting earlier access as a new perk for their money. The problem is that it's clearly a marketing plot designed to get more people to buy the most expensive edition for FOMO reasons.