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i started playing 2 months before wrath. i have thought of this too. we can't ever go back to learning this game, to discovering new things. my first time in eversong was jaw-dropping. so so so beautiful. classic just didn't do it for me. it still didn't bring back those first time feelings.
I do think that meta-gaming ruins games. A game comes out, and the first thing people do is try and find the "best" thing in it. Then everyone runs around doing that exact same thing. It's like loading up Elden Ring on release and nearly every person I encountered was running around with Rivers of Blood or Moonveil. Two katanas, in a game that has like 250 weapons.
At the end of the day, people are allowed to play how they want to play. I do think, however, that they are min-maxing the fun out of their time, which is a terrible shame.
On the topic of re-living the past:
Back in the day (from Vanilla through Cata) I played a Night Elf Druid. I left the game in early Cata and came back at the start of Legion. When I came back, I started a new character. It just didn't feel right to continue on my old main. So my old main has been in this sort of limbo and hasn't ever progressed since then–almost like a time capsule.
About 6 months ago, I decided to hit max level on that old main of mine. To do it, I went to Chromie and set my timeline to Wrath. I then went through every zone in Wrath and completed all of the quests I never finished when I played through the content back in the day. It was honestly one of the most surreal experiences I've ever had. Unearthing memories of skipping a quest because it required a group, or quests I had abandoned due to over-leveling a zone.
It was a very somber experience. Bittersweet. At the end of it, my old main was max level. I had completed all of the old quests I had missed. I logged off and canceled my subscription. I doubt I'll be back and that is okay; I am thankful for the memories.
That was my problem with WOW Classic, players meta'd the fun out of the game and I'm a super casual player. The game was definitely more fun when I didn't know everything about it, I could see a cave and want to explore it in case there's something cool in there, or just mess around in Goldshire at the Darkmoon Faire, go to zones that really aren't worth going to from a progress perspective
I started playing at launch in November 04. It was my first semester in college and just about everyone in my dormitory were playing. It was wild.
Turtle wow is the closest to that feeling I have ever had new zones quests and dungeons but keeping the vanilla feel
I miss the old WoW with the players as they were back then. If one of the two is missing, it's not the same as back then.
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Guilty of forgetting to even try to recapture these moments! In other games I have tried looking less at the map/objectives and stop going from A to B through the shortest route without really looking at the world, but I'll admit in WoW I often forget to do that and end up following quest markers to the most efficient (boring) route.
I remember starting out as a human warrior in northshire abbey. I had no idea of the scale of the game when I looked at the map I thought the ENTIRE game took place in Elwyn Forest, and I tried to guess what towns the different races were all from. And then I zoomed out to the eastern kingdoms and was blown away, and then I zoomed out again to see the kalimdor and all of Azeroth and I was stunned
So true, but I still slow down every now and then and rediscover things, scenery, etc. With dragonriding, it makes the world that much smaller, but I still slow myself down often by using regular flying, or simply riding around to just enjoy the scenery. Plus, I am like most people, and I like routine. So, I still level alts through the same old content, at least the content I enjoy. I hope areas are explored again in the future, like The Shadowlands. I also disliked it, but there are still some great zones in it, and NPCs I would like to get updates on, should their story progress.
I had a great time in dragon flight by almost completely avoiding outside content, I never once looked at build or talent or gear guides, I didn't use DBM or any of the quest guidance related stuff, uninstalled stuff like handynotes, and avoided spoiler content. Definitely recommend. Also staying off of the forums really heightened my enjoyment by avoiding the soul sucking negativity folks spread on there – I swear no one hates WoW more than half of the official forum commenters.
Stop letting other people dictate to you how to play – if more people did that perhaps we could rediscover the sense of joy.
Wowhead ruined everything.
Turtle wow really filled the sense of wonder for WoW for me, suddenly not every quest and zone was etched in my mind, different talents.. New dungeons and new loot tables..
Nothing in any game will come close to my experience when Burning Crusade came out.
Several of my guildmates and I levelled up our alts to exactly level 57, one level too low to pass through the dark portal. We then stood behind the portal right after release and started attacking any alliance members we saw. They would run at us to retaliate and go right through the portal to outland.
This was a pretty poignant video. Now that I'm an adult with a busy job and 3 kids, I don't have time to make my own fun like that any more. The time I do spend playing video games needs to feel productive. Either progressing through the story or working on achievements. Even right now, I have a sense I should stop wasting time typing this comment and get back to working on 100%ing Baldur's Gate 3 with the precious free time I have. Still, the comment about the kid playing in the cardboard box hit really close to home. I'm glad you're still making videos Crendor.
For a while now I've wanted to step back from hardcore raiding and m+ so I can just be a casual again, go at my own pace, and have time to do what I want without stressing about my ilvl. This video definitely just reinforced that feeling.
All right man, I didn't plan on crying on a friday night…
im sure im in the minority but i always enjoyed starting new expansions and patches without flying.. we get to explore the world from the ground and see a lot more detail that way than we do by flying over it, especially when speeding past everything with dragonriding.. its a lot more immersive on the ground imo so ill try to not use flying much when leveling in tww. new expansion leveling is the closest we can get to those early wow memories. when i first started playing i went on for 10 extra levels without a mount because i hadnt even realized i can get one.. but running around slowly didnt even phase me since single player games rarely had mounts, it all felt normal. exploring the vastness of every new zone was amazing!
I kinda get looking up a build in a competitive multiplayer but otherwise it's just figuring out stuff that's the fun part
When I first started playing I was using my friends account, I was fishing as a way of making money. Fishing up “sickly fish” worth 36 copper and thinking “I’m gonna be rich in no time!” lol
When I first started in 2004 day one, I had a crap computer. I started a human paladin and my graphics card COULD NOT HANDLE MURLOCS! LOL! Anytime I would look in the direction of a murloc (even if they were like 50 yards out of vision) dozens of beams of light would shoot out in all directions from the body of the murloc and it would blind my vision and lag my game. Now theres tons of murlocs in elwynn forest but do you think this stopped me from playing this amazing game? Heck no! I just walked backwards towards my destination anytime murlocs were near! I played this way all the way through Deadmines until I eventually updated my graphics card which fixed the issue. The rest is history…
That cardboard box will always be my race car
I actually agree with you.
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There is kind of a way to "go back" if you know about meditation. Big topic short: your mind has attention and awareness. Awareness being everything around you, your neighbor cutting the grass, what's happening in the game and even in your mind (like family, rents, job). Open up your awareness to everything in the game so that your attention (the "monkey mind") dances around that instead of your busy life or other thoughts like "i've done this before". This also works in your professional life too, and requires meditation to get better at it. Though I get your point in the video.
I remember my first. It almost made me quit right then and there. I was a human warrior and I was questing in that starting zone. I think at like level three you get the quest to go to the inn in Goldshire. I didn't realize you were supposed to wait a couple more levels and I bolted out the front gate and was killed by a Dafias almost instantly. When I rezzed I went the wrong way and ended up in Stormwind. I tried to ask for directions in chat and everyone just ignored me. I left that server and tried a Undead. I think I was still a warrior. Got a little farther that time. Still didn't last to long. Finally I made a Night Elf hunter and that's what I leveled to 70 in TBC. I had an old computer and couldn't play WTLK and quit. By the time I got one that could I didn't feel like playing anymore. I've relied on Crendor's videos since then to get my fix.
we just need a wow killer game. sadly, no one will make it. I would if i had the money. Simple fact is… create game mmorpg in visual style of wow with 3 factions and moving combat, not point and click, and you have yourself a banger. Tera online combat wise was great. Imagine implementing that, with something like diablo universe angels vs demons vs earth universe with 3 factions to chose with multiple races in angelic, demonic, or sapient.
can't go back to wow, but can go back to practically every other mmo from that era that wow killed. Highly recommend you hit up some private servers for them and you can have the lost feeling.
my favorite thing to do when playing with my friends who have no experience with the game is letting them decide what they want to do in the game
don't want to quest and just want to run around and explore? fine by me, let's go
want to roleplay a little even though we aren't on a roleplay server? that's my favorite thing ever, i'm in
Great video! I recently did the Secrets of Azeroth and that really got that nostalgic exploration feeling for me. For one of the events, there was a trail to follow in Northrend. Instead of zooming through it with a guide and my max speed dragonriding, I took the Tuskarr boats and used my ground mounts. Just was a nice change of pace and I plan on being as curious and slow paced in The War Within 😀
Thank god im not big on nostalgia.
My memory is so shot that remembering when I first played WoW in a struggle. That said, there is one thing that stood out to me.
I abhor dailies, they were dull, monotonous, and I never, ever wanted to do them. I ignored every single daily grind in the game, because I didn't want to run around, doing the same group of quests over and over, for a silly number to go up, and then nothing else.
With one exception. In Un'goro Crater, there was a quest you could embark on (i think it's gone now?) where you could work to get your own Venomhide Raptor mount. But, because of the nature of the raptors (and the fact their hide is venomous), you need to slowly immunize yourself to the poison, while also raising it from a child. Which meant going back every day to do some quest to help raise your baby raptor.
And I did that. Every single day, I would log in, take care of my growing raptor, and then go do whatever else I wanted to do. It was even more special since you saw it steadily grow over time, until eventually I got the mount. And it still stands as my favorite mount, not because it looks flashy, or is super hard to get. But because I raised that raptor myself, from a hatchling, to the full-grown adult it is now.
ive missed that nostalgia moments in wow i just how challenging it is wow rn it feels to easy to me
Crendor just spoke my own thoughts back to me to a tee. Thank you for putting them out so clearly.
sometimes the Elwynn Forest music will just start playing in my head
i played wow first then played lord of the rings online which still play to this day but wows season of discovery was fun but now its too toxic too even join a group lotro is more casual
It's that old saying. "You can't go home again." It all changed. You changed. So even if the other things remain unchanged, it isn't the same.
I am going to do the same with TWW. I have been avoiding as much of the information as I can, including the QoL improvements and such. My figure it out journey is starting with the pre-patch.
My first time playing wow, wrath.
I didn't know anything about it besides its fantasy and when i went to create my first character, i was blown away by being able to play as an undead, "woah! Undead!? But those are normally enemies!" And after i made him i went to pick my class and i saw walock "demons!? Dark magic!?"
Being the edgy boy i was i made an undead warlock and i remember my first time in the starting zone, i had a sinus infection so pockets of gross musty smells invaded my nose and i listened to that zone music and it felt so surreal.
Ultimately my highest level in wrath was actually a tarren hunter, just doing quests and and farming XP to try and unlock a death knight
Imagine being able to put that feeling into a bottle…
I always thought WoW infants look halarious. Was thinking u should do a pointless top 10 wow babies. Not sure how many there are, but u seem just the right person to find out lol
Ah yeah, I remember: "ok, so I'm an undead? But a good undead vs bad undead? Nice, this is like a dark plagued place where undead are all around ah and there's a christmas tree over there… Why?" (it was Winter Veil)
That "be grateful to be living the moment" mindset is dying more and more, with the new generations of nitpickers who only play something to complain at the slightest thing.
Imagine playing Sonic 3 on Genesis and getting frustrated right away at a water level, then ragequit, throw the game to the thrash, then organize a whole protest and boycott against Sega because "they don't care about the players with those water levels, they only want to keep people retrying them for the metricssss!!".
House of the Dragon episode 5 comes out tomorrow. Did you know there is a whole faction of people that watch the show with a magnifying glass, looking and counting up each sign of "woke culture" they can find, only to then get enraged at it? That's the whole thing they do with the episodes. They pay HBO for that.
When I was about 8 my dad let me play WoW for the first time, he had me choose a realm just for me/toons I make. I made a human hunter, and just ran off because i didn't understand how accepting quests worked. I just wandered around taming or killing things. When I could, I started doing exclusively dungeons/battlegrounds. During downtime between queues I would just. Ride a horse somewhere. I once got as far as booty bay just by walking and was scared shitless the whole way. I remember dying at some point and getting lost in the spirit world because I assumed you needed to find your body to revive. Literally spent two IRL days after school looking.
You can't get back what you had, that's why I don't have nostalgia for it anymore because I understand I can never play wow like I did when I was a kid. I had a hell of a time and met friends I still talk to today.
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Started playing WoW as a kid (under my parents watchful eye) and I remember pretending my night elf was a citizen of darnassas and choosing a house and sleeping there and sitting in taverns in other cities like a patron 😂
WoW is bittersweet. I remember my first quest to enter the Undercity as an undead mage. I couldn't figure out how to get into the city, so a level 70 (tbc) came up, gave me 6g and showed me the way. Then when I had to fight Arugal and we wiped, a blood elf pally level 70 showed up and killed him, and I was like, "I want to be that guy!" My grandparents bought me tbc in a Walmart, so I could play a pally. That was the last year my grandpa was alive. Both good and sad memories. I also remember switching to a frost mage and realizing how good they were, then right after the switch I came down with the flu. I don't have any memories of other games like I do WoW.
Started WoW about 6 months after it originally launched. Had a free 2 week trial from one of the old computer magazines. Thought I would hate being in an MMO, so made a female human mage for a laugh (I'm not female) and got on with slaughtering those unfortunate kobolds in Northanger Abbey. The 2 weeks quickly ran out, so I subscribed, and here we are, many years later, as my original character and I continue the trek onwards through Dragonflight. Made many friends over the years and enjoyed almost all of the time I have spent in Azeroth. You can't go back, but you will never forget the journey. Long may it continue.