Soo…. was any of this built up? Throughout the expansion… or even throughout this patch? Varian and Saurfang just turning up out of nowhere? Arthas used as a prop and then making him go the way of Garrosh?
Also, Syvlannas being a hypocrite and victim-blaming the man who was controlled in the same way Anduin was… YEP, Blizzard storytelling still sucks, glad I didn't come back.
The biggest issue with this isn't that Arthas was underused. Because the idea that Arthus is nothing but a tiny flicker of nothingness kind of works perfectly. His soul was ruined by domination and at the end of ICC we see that last fragment of him die. And here he is. Literally just a fragment of an already fragmented soul. The issue, at least to me is the fact that Jaina is right fucking there. Jaina, Bolvar, Uther all have huge connections to Arthas but instead we just get Sylvanas comparing herself to him. Because they both did evil things while under the control of domination? Except Sylvanas wasn't really under the control of Domination magic. She just kind of sided with the Jailer. It isn't some thematic mirror of their characters. They aren't really alike, even if they've been teasing the Lich Queen idea since Cata. Shadowlands has really fell flat from a writing standpoint as well as a gameplay standpoint.
1. I hope Zovaal says this line. Zovaal: Finish….what we started…..Sargeras. 2. Arthas being forgotten is similar to how Bolvar wanted to be forgotten. However, the execution of the storyline was bad 3. Next Expansion Theories: Dragon Expansion -> Light Expansion -> Azeroth (Titan) Expansion -> Light vs Void Expansion 4. Being Dominated sometimes make you desire or wish to dominate others. Zovaal, Ner'zhul, Arthas, Sylvanas
This would've been better if Arthas' (good guy) spirit showed up and had a final staredown with every character… and then having a word of guidance towards Anduin, a final goodbye to Jaina and an apology to Uther and Sylvanas for his acts.
They literally ripped everything from Arthas and gave it to Anduin to make people like him and then at the very end they do this to Arthas. Like I'mlegit done with Warcraft
Well this explained nothing and resolved almost nothing. So at the very least it's better than the Sanctum of Domination cutscene that also explained nothing but resolved nothing as well.
That is by far the laziest send off of a character like arthas I have ever seen. Not even his model, resolution to the parties affected such as jaina or uther. Not even a voice line.
Wanna see Saurfang, Varian, and Arthas have a storyline in the Shadowlands? Too bad! They only show up in a cinematic at the end of the expansion! Wanna see Jaina and Uther say goodbye to Arthas? Too bad! It's all Sylvanas!
WotLk was the best expansion, so much fun, so accessible, so many friends playing – oh well, been 4 years since I left, just came here out of curiosity to see what they did to Arthas….sad.
They retconned Arthas Menetihil’s ending at the end of Wrath in the service of propping up the worst villain of all time. Blizzard traded “I see only darkness for me” for “Hi kids, my name’s Mr. Nipples!
The crime wasn't that Sylvanas got the monologue, but that they didn't prepare for it in the right way. She represents the entire people abused and ruined by his choice… but they didn't lay the groundwork to explain that nearly enough. Jaina found her closure in BFA, Uther found his closure last patch… but because of the catastrophe of Sylvanas's arc, we don't feel like she needed that closure, when the OG Sylv would have.
Blizz is just not the same Blizz and they just do not have the magic they once had. That pretty much sums up what we have just seen. Rest in Peace Blizzard. Microsoft paid a lot of money for an empty shell:P
Lmao it's literally "Kill the past." No thanks. You're corporate leeches who built nothing; your only relevance is stringing out the corpse of what talented people built around Arthas. Piss on the past all you like, you'll never drag it down to your level and you'll never be anything without it.
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Rubbish
Lame
Soo…. was any of this built up? Throughout the expansion… or even throughout this patch?
Varian and Saurfang just turning up out of nowhere?
Arthas used as a prop and then making him go the way of Garrosh?
Also, Syvlannas being a hypocrite and victim-blaming the man who was controlled in the same way Anduin was… YEP, Blizzard storytelling still sucks, glad I didn't come back.
The biggest issue with this isn't that Arthas was underused. Because the idea that Arthus is nothing but a tiny flicker of nothingness kind of works perfectly. His soul was ruined by domination and at the end of ICC we see that last fragment of him die. And here he is. Literally just a fragment of an already fragmented soul. The issue, at least to me is the fact that Jaina is right fucking there. Jaina, Bolvar, Uther all have huge connections to Arthas but instead we just get Sylvanas comparing herself to him. Because they both did evil things while under the control of domination? Except Sylvanas wasn't really under the control of Domination magic. She just kind of sided with the Jailer. It isn't some thematic mirror of their characters. They aren't really alike, even if they've been teasing the Lich Queen idea since Cata. Shadowlands has really fell flat from a writing standpoint as well as a gameplay standpoint.
sadge
Arthas finally gone forever though I wanted to hear his side of story but not sadly 😒
1. I hope Zovaal says this line. Zovaal: Finish….what we started…..Sargeras.
2. Arthas being forgotten is similar to how Bolvar wanted to be forgotten. However, the execution of the storyline was bad
3. Next Expansion Theories: Dragon Expansion -> Light Expansion -> Azeroth (Titan) Expansion -> Light vs Void Expansion
4. Being Dominated sometimes make you desire or wish to dominate others. Zovaal, Ner'zhul, Arthas, Sylvanas
Next expansion when
They just shit on one of their best iconic and legacy characters..
Am i just old or does the entire writing since at least bfa just feel lazy? Damn, at least let Jaina get a word in before the dudes 'soul' is 'gone.'
This would've been better if Arthas' (good guy) spirit showed up and had a final staredown with every character… and then having a word of guidance towards Anduin, a final goodbye to Jaina and an apology to Uther and Sylvanas for his acts.
A lot better like this with the whole context. Thanks a lot Leyst! ^^
They literally ripped everything from Arthas and gave it to Anduin to make people like him and then at the very end they do this to Arthas. Like I'mlegit done with Warcraft
In the end it was sylvanas who was reading arthas final farewell….very poetic if u ask me
Damn… I liked it…
dang all the hype for arthas just for him to poof away and get a back hand eulogy from sylvanas. sad
Well this explained nothing and resolved almost nothing. So at the very least it's better than the Sanctum of Domination cutscene that also explained nothing but resolved nothing as well.
Sylvannas gets redemption but not Arthas?…. ***k this game
Last time we see Arthas, we never forget him.
when i heard varian i shit myself
varian and saurfang. i literally bawled my eyes out seeing that. halp.
lol this dogshit game is dead, dragon isles, etc, nothing can save you WoW,
I surprisingly enjoyed this
God Blizzard always write dick cheese dialogue.
Arthas was the best part of WoW. The Wisp = The end of WoW that went out like a whipper.
That is by far the laziest send off of a character like arthas I have ever seen. Not even his model, resolution to the parties affected such as jaina or uther. Not even a voice line.
Poor Jaina… didn't get to say "i love you" for the last time to Arthas before he farted away… 😥
Sorry sylvanas but he will never be forgotten.
I guess blizzard really like to disenchant carismatic character like garrosh and arthas
Wanna see Saurfang, Varian, and Arthas have a storyline in the Shadowlands? Too bad! They only show up in a cinematic at the end of the expansion!
Wanna see Jaina and Uther say goodbye to Arthas? Too bad! It's all Sylvanas!
way better than the last one lmao
That’s it? Arthas gets cucked but Sylvanas gets to live?
WotLk was the best expansion, so much fun, so accessible, so many friends playing – oh well, been 4 years since I left, just came here out of curiosity to see what they did to Arthas….sad.
I laughed so hard at this. I am not apologizing. As soon as Anduin said, "Arthas?" it was laugh freakin city.
World of warcraft started from Arthas, ended with Arthas. Just like the first phase of marvel movies.
They retconned Arthas Menetihil’s ending at the end of Wrath in the service of propping up the worst villain of all time.
Blizzard traded “I see only darkness for me” for “Hi kids, my name’s Mr. Nipples!
The crime wasn't that Sylvanas got the monologue, but that they didn't prepare for it in the right way. She represents the entire people abused and ruined by his choice… but they didn't lay the groundwork to explain that nearly enough. Jaina found her closure in BFA, Uther found his closure last patch… but because of the catastrophe of Sylvanas's arc, we don't feel like she needed that closure, when the OG Sylv would have.
This is so dumb. This is not doing Arthas's story justice. This is just pissing on the grave of his story.
Not a single word from jaina and uther???
This is Arthas !
I don't even wanna play WoTLK Classic anymore knowing that the story eventually leads to this garbage.
Horrible
Lmfao.
Blizz is just not the same Blizz and they just do not have the magic they once had. That pretty much sums up what we have just seen. Rest in Peace Blizzard. Microsoft paid a lot of money for an empty shell:P
Lmao it's literally "Kill the past." No thanks.
You're corporate leeches who built nothing; your only relevance is stringing out the corpse of what talented people built around Arthas. Piss on the past all you like, you'll never drag it down to your level and you'll never be anything without it.
"I will never trust her" trust me… oh okay lets do her plan then. FUCKING terrible story telling