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So how do you decide to change mains? I play fire mage but I am so frustrated with the spec’s performance, I am leaning more and more on changing to arcane mage! War within mains and alts is a complicated story and trust me, I love my fire mage to death but man it’s hard seeing all these arcane mages pumping! I guess it’s time to discuss war within choosing a main again or at least, lay down my arguments here 🙂
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Fun > Meta. No matter the game.
Arcane was Buffed? And what was the -10% on Barrage and Blast? lol
I play more chars and I give a sh* about meta, as long you not play in world first oder MDI is it okay. And its nothing more frustraiting then pick a meta specc and not perform 😂 so my overall think ist Fun, if this is good i look at our raid if they need one of them if yes i take them if not i take what i want. Then a player who has fun is a better player then one without. 😅 the only other thing why i would change main is when my raid not go on because my performance is to bad 😂
Well, I switched to Destruction, I’ve been maining demonology for several expansions, because of all the movement needed and the cc/bumps/pools from mobs. It was just too punishing for demonology now that we need to cast a lot compared to previous expansions. I miss all my demonic cores procs.
Here's still waiting for fire to be returned to its glory days bahahaahh
A decade ago, i was a meta chaser too, and it burnt me out so much I nearly quit gaming completely. I play this game to have fun now, and that often means playing a subpar class and spec.
I get that a lot of people find doing fat deeps and chasing the meta fun, and that is also fine.
At the end of the day, this is a game. Why would you play a game in a way you dont find fun? Just try to keep in mind that fun is subjective.
Hell, I levelled a Gnome using only pet battles once. Was it slow? Yes. Sure was a fun change of pace, though.
I recently swapped to Arcane and I’ve been having an absolute blast (excuse the pun).
It’s flashy, fun and feels really good when you perform your rotation correctly, adding depth to your game.
I’ve always been a Frost mate at heart but playing Arcane feels so refreshing to me right now.
Always love the channel guys, keep up the good work.
I have been Arcane since the start of WOTLK, raided and PVP ALL the way through, never have I been this excited for a tier set as I am for me and my army of mirror images to dominate with the T-12. Having Arcane Power make my spells cheaper instead of more expensive, WHAT? This phase of classic is going to be BONKERS. Once your gear score hits 9850, the amount of mana and spell power I have now allows the rotation to FINALLY flex like it did in The Frozen Throne, I'm about to FFFFF these meters up!
For people who DO NOT KNOW, throughout Cataclysm, our spell power number, and total mana pool will grow, to a point on a bell curve where it SPARKS to life like you never seen. I am in Infernos dropping 50k single target on bosses right now.
When spell power numbers can only max out at 7k, and the most haste and mastery you can have while hit capped is gimped at the START of the expansion, FIRE COMPLETELY DOMINATES the bell curve there. What you are about to see is Arcane mages SKYROCKETING. Spell power for the average mage is getting near 10k, while capped, mastery is going over 20% now with this gear, Firelands level gear also gets mages to 130k mana pools. At that point Arcane Mages RISE past everyone else, every time. The thing is the rotation takes ALOT more thinking during the fight than fire, works COMPLETELY differently, and the T-12 set is good for them too, so I don't see TOO many mages making the change. The mana float phase of the rotation is NOT easy for everyone.
I don't agree with your input on the Meta, im playing meta most of the time (playing assassin now) and atm im pushing +15 on all keys, only Grim left. However you say that the meta classes gets hate? its the other way around, if you play meta and your good at it everyone lovs you, everyone will invite you, especially if them their self are not a meta spec. However if you play lets say a bm hunter in m+ then you quickly see how bad they treat you, you get no invites and if you do for some miracle reason its only lower keys. This is why I mostly look for ratings no matter what class you are before I invite, I played 15 with suve hunter, destro lock, ww monk and even arms warrior and they where completed. People should truly be able to play what they like and perform but sadly Blizz cannot balance the classes to save their life, if one spec is good, they nerf it, instead of buffing the other specs or classes, if something works well for example frost dk now, or Fire mage in DF or Survival hunter in end if shadowlands, they will get nerfed to hell.
I was in the same boat, started this exp with fire mage, quickly realized in delves 8 that I was struggling and changed to sunfury arcane and it was better, then they did the buff to spellslinger so changed to that and it was even more fun, so my best advice is firstly play what class you want, but don't be afraid of testing the other specs (if you have it) that is performing better to see if you like it.
Still playing fire in M+, just with my friends. In raids its imposible to play fire, no matter how good could i be. It so freaking frustrating because we were being buffed slightly patch after patch until we found the sweet spot where you are not meta, but you aren't trash. Then the nerf hammer happened…
BTW i keep saying that the obsession of devs to make lit fuse work is because they putted so much work and time in that part of the tree that if it isn't used or thrown to the garbage somebody is going to be fired.
ive literally had this same choice recenently LMAO, arcane is better, but fire is just so much more real to play lol
Changing from Mage to Mage isn’t exactly a big change, but play what you like!
Post nerf I’m still out performing our flavor of the month arcane mage player as a fire mage,
Marcellian has got the right idea.
Flavor of the monthers imo often don’t have the muscle memory to perform in the content they’re trying to be meta for
I love having to re-grind all my Crit gear for Haste gear. Re-grinding Valor Stones is so much fun. Re-creating all my gear is so much fun.
Ive been a mage main since i started in cata. Blizzard has absolutely no idea what to do with mage anymore. we get several reworks each expansion now because they cant figure out what to do. Fire is back to pre legion level power where its just bad. The frost talent tree is just bad and suffers from insane proc bloat. Arcane lost pretty all their burst and shifted it into aoe. I really dont like what theyve done to all 3 specs
pretty sure the 11% arcane buff never went live
i am so glad i am not maining mage anymore, this class is getting tuned into rdm tiers from week to week for ages, it's a great alt class vut never ever again will main it.
My fun is to play the best dps spec and do the end content as m+ or mythic raid. However, poor balance and uncertainty of nerfs & cost/time required to gear up another main makes me really sad. Ex. I switch from arcane mage to ele. shaman. It took me hours to grind the gear to the same level, but ele. was nerfed again even before I can have fun.
I recently swapped from playing evoker(all 3 specs in various content) back to my monk mainly because my group wouldn't cooperate with evoker healing. I don't regret it.
Frost is king
If there’s a group telling me to play X spec because the one I play is just mid tier … I would rather bye bye them.
U are making alot of drama , just play frost which is way easier than arcane and ir does almost the same dmg . Or just go play any another class
Change main when in solo content, like mithic plus, u cant find no one who group you because u are not the meta dps.
This game need a huge fix about that.
Here’s little me who can’t even pick a main 😅
Fire has been insane for seasons. They don't know how to make fire single target good without making it the hands down best spec for everything in the game.
Fire was bottom at the start of the expansion, got buffs and rocketed to the top and then got nerfed back down. This just makes sense from Blizzards perspective.
Let fire rot for a season. It's fine.
Arcane wasn't buffed into the anniversary patch. What are you talking about? hmm. Frost is ahead of both.
Pls nerf prot pala, ty
Fire main, switch to frost and hated it so I am also at the shrine praying for a buff.
How did you get your details addon to look like that? Bars look cool!
The random changes are made to keep you sub going on
As a long time Fire main this is nothing new. Every expansion people pop over to Arcane when it is 'meta'. I beat them as fire because i know and love the spec. Then when arcane gets nerfed they all leave and i just laugh at them
OMG – only 2 minutes in but as someone trying to main fire mage since launch, this is SO my season so far.
I play dracthyr shadow priest cause the silhouette
The pain of this really is the second they change the entire playstyle of a main spec and just make it no fun at all. With current iteration of frost mage, I'd rather do subpar DPS on arcane or fire than play frost at all, on what used to be the most fun I've had in the game in years.
The most important factor, like you said, is just enjoying it, so I'm in the process of packing up my Frost and figuring out what to do now, and nothing is sticking like it used to.
Time to chase meta in the meantime…
lovely video, thanks for uploading!
Completely satisfied with my mistweaver main. The only thing I'd like is essence font back. Other than that I can't complain. Still fun!
I will be always a Resto shaman main, even with stressful spiky damage nowadays. By now feeling the diva popularity among the building teams in every content 😆.