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No it is not. Stop deluding yourself.
There are lots of great things about classic WoW. Personally I think its atmosphere, pacing, levelling experience and casual friendly difficulty level are its strengths. But it is also very lacking in several areas. For example the spells and rotations have improved a lot over the years compared to how super basic and boring it is in classic. Another significant improvement is how every spec of every class is actually viable in the end-game in retail compared to classic where a lot of them are practically dead.
But classic WoW's biggest problem for me and why its charm always fades fast once I've reached level 60 is its lacks of both quantity and diversity in its end-game content. There is for example very little to collect. In retail on the other hand there is an abundance of transmog appearances, mounts, pets and toys. Professions are also largely irrelevant with only a few uses at best in classic WoW. In retail you can pick any or all of the professions and make the entire game about that if you wish. You can craft relevant gear and consumables for current content pve, pvp, and professions, or you can craft old gear for transmog purposes, or pets and toys, or all of the above. Because there is so little to collect, and so little to do with professions, there is also very little end-game content in the ways of farming in classic.
In retail you can be a raider, an arena player, mythic+, or if none of that competitive stuff appeals to you then you can be a collector of achievements, mounts, pets, transmogs or toys. Or all the things. Or you can do nothing but professions, or be a farmer and sell all those things that the collectors want to buy. Some people even play pet battles or battlegrounds. As good as classic WoW is in some ways, and as flawed as retail is in some, I think the latter is vastly superior all in all.
Retail is all about following the story to end game, and then grinding yourself into the ground trying to get gear upgrades so you can continue grinding. Classic is all about making your own adventure. Ten people can level in the same zone and all have different stories to tell about what they did in that zone. That's the type of replayability that is lacking in current content.
for your information classic wow is just a conservative museum infact retail wow is the real wow when it comes to development. classic wow atmosphere maybe better but its the community that is rancid thanks to right wing parse culture.
Saying "X is better than Y" is being dishonest objectively. You might enjoy X more than Y.
I think both have their own good and bad sides, I love leveling both fast – and slow; focus on solo gameplay; and doing end game content (to a lesser extent nowadays).
I play both (or rather, all 3 – SoD as well) depending on my mood, and I love that we have the options as they are all good; and bad, in their own ways. ^^
I don’t understand this thing on the Internet when somebody expresses an opinion and other folks get upset. Like, you have a preference for Classic, which is great. Meanwhile, other folks come in and say that’s just an opinion. Well… obviously.
Is this the year 2019 again??? Are we still making these kind of videos where it's clear as day just how different both versions of the game are from each other? Classic has been done time and time and time and time and time again and people have actually begun to move away from that version of the game. They dipped as soon as BC and Wrath came out and the last big hurrah for vanilla was when the hardcore version was released and ahmpy led his guild to world first Naxx. Retail is much better than classic for one reason only: you don't have to slow walk until level 40, then slow ride until level 60. That's it. If there were no other reasons for retail being better than classic, this one reason makes it infinitely better on its own. Now I haven't even watched the vid, and I don't plan on it. I've heard this argument for many years now and you're not saying anything new. We get it, the world felt bigger, the stories more grounded, the open world filled with players, etc etc. But the world is still big in retail, even bigger. The stories are so much better than they've been in years. And theres genuinely a ton of people playing and grouping up right now. Classic meant a lot to some people and it had a great comeback a feww years ago. But people really have moved on and you saw servers dead the second BC classic came out.
Its not. How many dead versions of classic do you need lol
I have a 20 lock and a 54 hunter if ya ever want to group up!
i loved original vanila,but i cant play it anymore,it just feels to old,in both gameplay,mecanics,challenge,lack of general QoL stuff,class design,and thats coming from someone who doesnt pvp so im sure that crowd would complain a lot about vanila now,and i dont play alts
Ill one up you: Turtle WoW is the best WoW experience you can possibly have.
TurtleWoW has completely changed the way I view the Classic Era. When Blizzard decided to take Vanilla in the exact direction of BL, WotLK, etc. just as it had happened 20 years ago, I was deeply disappointed. I, and everyone else, knew that meant Classic was fleeting and was only around as a monetary decision and not one from a place of love or creativity. Classic is still there and Season of Discovery is super cool but I think the thing that people are starting to crave is more Classic as opposed to just having Classic as it was for all eternity. A really good example of this is OSRS; they add new content to that game and always have, it was never assumed that they were going to just patch the game as they did historically. They came out the gate with desire to add new, Old-School style, content to the game. Sometimes its a hit, sometimes a miss (they have everything voted on which is 10/10 for transparency but causes some dev issues lol) but its always new and fresh! That's the direction for WoW, imo, and im so happy that the private server community has decided to lead the charge there with projects like TurtleWoW and Epoch.
A yes, the reheated microwave steak for X times .
rn I see the biggest problem with retail is how hard it is to get into WoW as a new player. there's so much content and it's confusing. The thing about old WoW is it forces the player to interact with other players in the world to accomplish quests and what not. This is how an mmorpg should be. If you want to play by yourself, there's plenty of better options than wow. The leveling experience makes you more invested/emotionally attached in any character you make. And as you mentioned, no flying makes the world feel immersive.
We've been over this a thousand times already. Different versions of the game offer different types of experience for different tastes. There's pros and cons to each of them and people will value each of these points differently. Like if you want deeper character customization there's nothing for you in classic since talent trees are literally dead with only 1 decent option that everyone ends up using even without looking at guides because everything is so shallow. But if you want a more meaningful journey and adventure you can't find that in retail cuz the content is super fast paced arcade style and forgettable.
not better man waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better!
I think classic is great but right now, retail challenges me more to be a better player and for that reason alone, ill be biased on retail. M plus is quite hard this season, raid too and i like it that way. Rotations are alive, not just 4 buttons
As someone that has been playing ever since 2004, i can tell you right now, that your subjective opinion is objectively wrong.
Vanilla WoW was for me the best time ever in wow and in any videogame by far. And i can tell with confident Vanilla WoW was the best game ever… in 2005….
What i mean by that is, that in 2024, things have changed. And unless you have a time machine, playing classic wow is not at all the same as it was in 2005.
One of the things that made the game so great back then was the mystery, the exploration. We had to figure out the game as we went, and we fell in love with it because of that.
Even if you have never played the pre-cata quests at all, if you do play it today, your experience won't be even close to that of what we had in 2004. Why? First of all, back then, noone knew anything, so the way to find out answers was to ask IN THE GAME to other players if they knew, if they had found the answer, etc… You couldn't just go into the internet and find the answer in 10 seconds.. The guides for the game were barely starting to be written, while today, you can go to wowhead and type 3 words and get the answer, and a list of comments giving you tips to get it faster, easier, and the exact coordinates where to stand. And if you still don't get it, you can see a video of exactly how to, in youtube… we live in a post-information era…
But even if say, you go in and avoid going into wowhead, and don't install any addons, specialy addons such as questy, which imo is a stupid addon that totaly defeats the purpouse of playing classic… you still can't have the same experience because then the community mindset has changed… most people nowadays don't care to try and play like back then to have fun.. most classic players are sweaty hardcore players that only care about minmaxing to beat 20 year old raids that my 8 year old nephew can clear. And the game is a social game where you gonna need to group with people for lots of quests and of course dungeons etc.
Now all of what i said and more is for someone that has never played the game. For those of us that did.. there's nothing new at all… The reazon i don't touch classic is because i get bored 10 minutes in.. i know everything so i play it braindead… i don't read the quests, i dont have to think where to put my next talent, i know where to go, i know where will i go after i finish my current quest and where will i go after that. There's no fun in doing the same thing you did so many times 20 years back, just that now is way easier… that's why peole had to come up with ideas such as hardcore classic to have at least some challenge…
And don't get me wrong, i am not saying you shouldn't have fun with classic or that your opinion of it is totaly wrong… i mean if you are having fun with it GOOD! I did too nearly 20 years ago 🙂
But the problem comes when you try to compare it to retail. Because, for starters, you can't even compare both realy.
Retail has way more content, while also have issues. Sure the leveling content right now is confusing for new players, but for the rest of us, it works fine. But besides that, end content, specialy in this expansion is great! The raids are freaking good, the solo content is the best end game solo content that has ever been, the leveling campaign with all the cinematics is so damn good, and if you want you can level your character through other ways then just the campaign after you have already done the campaign at least once!
And yet, i am not gonna tell you that Retail is better then Classic because maybe FOR YOU is not. But if i try and be objective, in 2024, i think retail is a better game, with its qol features, with its gameplay, with its graphic improvements etc etc. Retail is a better game for 2024 and yet that doesnt mean classic is bad either.
It's a complex matter, but maybe i can give a helpful example of what i mean if i use a diferent game then WoW:
I love Super Mario Bros 3, but today, i don't feel id play it over Mario Odyssey, or even Mario 64.
for you. not for the people who play retail apparently. keep enjoying your nostalgia. ill play what i want.
it not at all
Season of discovery is pretty fun for me. Compared to regular classic wow it added a lot of good features.
ive never heard this take before bro😂😂😂
I like wow vanilla, classic and retail, they're all good for different reasons. The simplicity of classic, items being viable past their raid tier and straight forward progression. While retail has many paths for pvp and pve progression, a changing meta and more difficult content(not always a good thing.)
id love to try it but no monks means i have no vehicle to engage the game in a fun way to me
Retail is better than classic (Said no person with a brain ever)