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Illidan might have been a bit too rash when he decided to destroy Xe’ra and shun the Light and now it might all be coming back full circle. In legion it seemed like the day was saved, the titans came in imprisoned the bad guy Sargeras and Illidan remained to make sure he was imprisoned – the day was saved, the bad guys gone. However so much has changed, in the last titan, the pantheon is coming back to Azeroth as it was confirmed very likely as villains leaving only Illidan in charge of Sargeras.
There are hints Azeroth is a massive titan prison as you can see from the logos, Sargeras might not be who we think he is and he might have been fighting fire with fire just like Illidan which might be exactly what connects them. Furthermore as the Light will be the good guys in Midnight, it is possible that Xe’ra predicted that the defeat of Sargeras with fel magic is meaningless in the long term and that is why she wanted to convert Illidan to the Light and he might be coming back to this realization now as well. So what will be going on with Illidan?
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Illidan: this is not even my final form
the concept of "Good" and "Evil" is a point of view, the light isn't good and fel isn't evil. same with Void and life and death and all the other things.
Illidan killing Xe’ra was part of the plan.
Please please PLEASE… Don't give Blizzard any rtarded ideas about "Sargeras was actually the good guy the whole time, just like the Jailor.".
WHY THEY DO MY MAN ILLIDAN LIKE THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! HE'S BADASS WITHOUT THE LIGHT, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I hope they dont make a redemption arc for sargeras. Dude killed trillions of people. Its like forgiving sylvannas times a billion.
This story has just become shittier and shittier with every expansion
Frankly all this cosmic shit makes me less interested in playing.
what sword?
ANYONE freaking out in this section should sit back and breathe a moment. This is all just speculation and we’re still recovering from PTSD after BfA and SL. Metzen is back. Microsoft is letting Blizz do what they want. Bobby is gone (in 3 days from now). Things are turning around, but don’t let go of your defensive walls. Let things cook.
UH, if he comes back Light, he got forced.
This would be great
So first they butchered Sylvannas story line all the way from BFA to SL, then they did Garrosh dirty with a shitty cut scene. Now they want to ruin Illidan too? Ffs leave the man alone, his story was perfect the way it was left.
He finds his way to the light and says "im in charge of this light now"
it will be horrible, if illidan is turned to the light form his whole "my destiny is my own thing" when he lashed out at the naaru would be retcon'd to hell
5:20 Total and complete lie…… we do "NOT" know that Primus ever had any contact with nor any deals with Aman'thul at all. What we have many many many hints and insinuations about is that Primus had contact with and a deal with Odyn. Odyn is not Aman'thul. Odyn does not talk to Aman'thul. Aman'thul does not talk to Odyn. Odyn did not help to save Aman'thul. Odyn did not ask about Aman'thul when we saved him and came back. Odyn did not help to defend Azeroth from N'Zoth. Odyn did not help defend Azeroth from primal incarnate old god dragons. Odyn did not help or make any contact with any titan keepers when the scourge and Lich King were doing their thing in Northrend during wrath, nothing. It is very clear to us now that Odyn is not in charge and is not favored or even considered relevant by any Titan anymore.
I'm not buying any ridiculous statement about Sargeras being a good guy, ever. But the entire purpose of him in the Metzen lore originally was for him to be evil…..but evil with a real threat he was fighting. It's just that the real threat he was fighting in that original lore was the void. Prior to any replacement writer Danuser jailer feces. If Metzen wanted to come back and keep him as evil with a real threat and if he wants to make it slightly more complicated than only void….. fine, I could see some consistent options. One such option is that maybe we learn cosmic team Life is evil and they were trying to destroy many thousands of planets all over the great dark beyond; and the only reason evil cosmic team Life had not succeeded in stealing Azeroth was because of void interference, and later Titan interference with the void and life both. Therefore, the same evil developing in Sargeras would remain…….but he could equally well pursue his evil by theorizing that cosmic team Life infesting so many thousands of worlds inevitably gave fuel for Void to go consume and grow……given that we learned in wrath of the lich king that void are "Necrophotic symbiotes" which is a euphemism for "death energy parasites". As such, Sargeras' evil plan would have included going around with his burning legion to burn and wipe out life all over the great dark beyond, and selecting a few of such lifeforms to bind as new demons in his burning legion, which would not give necrophotic fuel to void when they die. It is still evil, but leaves open room for new villains and new understandings of the conspiracy Metzen mentioned at blizzcon.
One further development which is possible……. is literally that perhaps Elune was from evil cosmic team Life and she had already done deals to add Light magic to her Nature magic, and then later to add Arcane magic to her Nature and Light magic repertoire. And while Elune was in opposition to Sargeras when he used Fel magic against her life planets…….that doesn't necessarily mean that she is always in opposition to Fel magic itself, so long as Sargeras is not using it against her. As such, if Elune had already increased her magic repertoire from Nature to Nature/Light/Arcane/Shadow …….. she could be making deals with the "true" Disorder cosmic team (not Sargeras, as he didn't start from there) to add Fel magic to her own expertise. It may very well be that Elune was imprisoned in those golden rings beneath the surface of Azeroth and that Eonar "bound" her in such a prison, thus explaining the Life-Binder title.
I've heard the word "might" a whopping SIX times before we're even a minute into the video.
Lightforged Demon Hunter…. or make healing a Spec for DH, still the only one with 2 specs, right??
if the prison of the elemental dragons looks the ssme as the logo for the worldsoul expansion does this mean that the soul imprisoned in azaroth is the first dragon? maybe even some sort of titan dragon? and if ilidan now has light powers does this mean we might get lightforged demonhunters?
Meanwhile in Ardenweild:
Malfurion sleeping once again
I highly doubt the plot will be "Xe'ra was right when she tried to violate Illidan's bodily autonomy, and he was wrong to resist"
so basically, Illidan is like Magneto. one expansion, he's bad. next expansion, he's good. next, he's bad, next he's good.
Lol everytime you guys cry for undead Paladins remember Holy Illidan lolololol you all deserve it
What if Demon Hunters can now have 3 Specs. Fel, Light, Void?
Demon Hunter, Blade of Light, Void Seekers
Imagine the World Soul being a balance of all the Cosmological forces, in one, to maintain balance. A balance of all of the forces is perfect.
They just pissing on us players without the courtesy calling it rain. The entire storywriting departement should be fired. Its no news what kind of backward thinking fat blue rainbow colored deulu potatoes are in charge of the story
the light is evil
the order is flawed
aszhara freeing sargeras and meet up with illidan is for sure
I have a strong feeling we will fight the light not join with it
As much as Sargeras is 100% USDA prime intellectual property for Blizzard, I really want his story to just be over. He was originally just supposed to be a very simple BBEG. He's just a dude who wandered the universe for so long that he saw life as an inherent flaw. He was insane, but his motivations were straightforward. I would not like it if we learned that Sargeras' was motivated to kill Azeroth for reasons that didn't have to do with the typical Burning Crusade stuff. Because if Azeroth is way more important than all that, then wtf was he doing all this time? You'd think that invading and stabbing the planet might've been a higher priority in the ten thousand years since we popped up on his radar. Heck, if he knows something about Azeroth's prison that is so incredibly important to him, you'd think that Sargeras and The Boys would've been on our doorstep long before the well of eternity even blew up.
I'd say best case scenario with this storyline is that Sargeras maybe stabbed the planet as a last-ditch attempt to break the seal on the prison that the pantheon threw him into (which is Azeroth, I guess). Still, feels a little convoluted if you ask me.
I felt a great disturbance in cyberspace…as if millions of edgelords cried out in angst, and suddenly sulked. I always found Illidan overrated, and him rejecting the Light by killing that Naaru was cringe, though I'm uncertain he was Champion of the Light material.
so doron unfortunatly you have something wrong in this video, the vision velen has of Anduin leading the army of light verses the void wasnt actually first in legion it was first saw in the book wolfheart i believe its when there is a meeting of the alliance leaders velen has his vision of anduin leading an army of light. the problem is this is great but it breaks the lore they added to game as if you played horde and did the allied race orcs you see in that story that the lightis acutally being used for evil to mind controll orcs such as hellscream which means there is an alterative timeline outthere somewhere where draenor has been taken over by a cult of light followers led by the drainei woman which means surely there has to be a battle with the light to appear also i think they made a massive cop out with shadowlands they had a chance to retell the storys and reshape the alliance so on but instead they made anduin even more emo and havent split them up at all
Xe'ra should have known that giving Illiden that choice at that point, was going to go poorly. Specifically trying to tell him the light would "heal him" … Bargains for power was always something he would say no to. He is a proponent of Free Will, he was never going to accept that "gift". She should have known that, and unless her dying to him in that moment was somehow critical for the future, giving him that bargain at that moment, so he could reject it… would somehow insure things proceed correctly.
No. Illidan did the right thing by freeing himself when that light construct tried to force their will upon him. To alter him without his consent. He is a very interesting character, who many have tried to use, and he bested them in the long game. If he is showing up with the light, there is no telling what has occurred in our absence.
I'm just wonderig who the heck that second female titan is supposed to be in that art towards the start. Azeroth? Really the only possibility I suppose
Illidan Light transformation? Nah please stop.
I cannot remember where, but, BUT, "…as Sargaras fell through Azeroth, she opened one eye and they saw each other, and he knew her, and she knew him." Dang I wish I could find it.😊
I don't really believe that Illidan with his "own path" mindset would turn to Light, where Xe'ra, its avatar in a sense, tried to force him into servitude. He would remember that + the reaction of Turalyon would also add to the cons of joining the Light.
Sure he got the fel magic from Sargeras, but Sargeras seems to not dominate, enslave, control or however you want to call it his pawns. It is mostly through manipulation or thirst of power (like Warcraft 3 Illidan). But, I do agree to the devil comparison to a certain degree. It gives me Lucifer vibes, that Sargeras saw the injustice (or the problem, whatever) and, same as Lucifer with his revolution, got owned. If we agree to the reorigination of Sargeras, if it is even possible, because why wouldn't they use it in the boss fight against Argus, then I think we are going to see some last words from Sargeras that may shake Illidan's and our worldview.
But I see a problem here. I assume that the Titans have to be present for the reorigination to happen and to keep Sargeras there in the first place, not that they can cast a spell and then can leave. The issue I have is that since Sargeras was said to be stronger than the whole pantheon, all of them should only be focusing on containing him. If there is really reorigination going on, then who can "leave their post" or is there another Titan they found in the meantime that can focus on that? I believe it would also take another Titan (so now 2 new titans) to keep Sargeras from revealing anything to Illidan.
But for Illidan, I would love him to become an elemental agent, Druid of the Flame to be exact, but different from our current understanding of them. As you mentioned, Azeroth seems to be of an elemental nature. Furthermore, Illidan struggled to be a "normal" druid. He was trained in the mysteries of the druid arts, but he wasn't suited to be a "normal" druid, so this may be the perfect oportunity him.
To sum it up, if Sargeras runs his mouth and Illidan believes him, Illidan may reconsider his life, but also see the problem with his original druid training, causing him to embrace his inner (or possibly Azeroth's) calling, to become the one and only champion of Azeroth.
Well, Illidan has always been an idiot.
Knowing Illidan, doesn't it seem much more on brand for him to "embrace" the Void instead of the Light to fight the Void?