New CLEAVE is Totally CRACKED!! AoE MS? Arms Warrior | WoW Shadowlands Alpha [1st Pass] FinalBossTV



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Bay’s 1-man-podcast’esque, update first impressions talking head summary for the Arms “smooth brain dps” Warrior. World of Warcraft: Shadowlands – Alpha. Tested on 5/22/2020
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32 thoughts on “New CLEAVE is Totally CRACKED!! AoE MS? Arms Warrior | WoW Shadowlands Alpha [1st Pass] FinalBossTV”

  1. The last melee class that did not have a button to shit on DoT based classes, now got baseline Ignore Pain. Arena was so fun already for Shadow Priest/Aff Lock against melee right? Fuck you Blizzard.

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  2. I've always liked Arms best of the warrior specs because of the hard hits with two-handed weapons. I think this looks like a solid set of changes, but I'm no expert on the class.

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  3. Am I the only one who absolutely loathe Deep WOONDS? It's so uninteractive, it's just a dot that happens when you press buttons. BOORING!
    Bloodbath was fun, back in the ICC days. It was an ability that made them bleed! Cool! Now they just bleed, and it happens whether you like it or not. I feel the Arms fantasy has faded. What has it become now? Before it was a stone cold tactician who waited for the right moment to strike with a giatnt weapon and overwhelming force, not it's a guy with a giant weapon who hit hardish but they bleed a lot afterwards…..ok. So 30%+ of our dmg is basically invisible and has nothing to do with us. Great.
    When a sword on the size of Armageddon descends on you, you don't worry about the wound it will cause and that you will bleed, you worry about being hit by it because it will utterly crush you!
    Imo, Arms should be a crit spec. While I do not like specs that rely on RNG/crit, I feel it would fit arms warriors. BIG mortal strikes! BIG executes! Not this noodle stuff we have now where literally 30% or more of our dmg is behind the scenes! (that's the numbers I get from Deep Wounds, at least.)

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  4. That Cleave change is.. Interesting.. Seems like an "all in" AoE talent, set apart from Warbreaker.

    By "all in" I mean, you have to invest in Whirlwind AND Cleave.. Which, I can see why it'd make the AoE rotation boring, but.. Is Frost DK with Frostscythe any less boring for AoE?

    Other options, you're less all in, Warbreaker you have the AoE Colossus Smash, you don't have to be "all-in" with Whirlwind, you can Sweeping Strikes, Slam, Whatever.
    Cleave is a dead button if you aren't hitting those three targets with Whirlwind. And, when the AoE is diminished to the point of one or two targets, you can go back to whatever is best for that.

    (You can tell I'm not an arms warrior)

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  5. I'm not big on Arms warrior, too slow for my taste, though I will try it out, see how changes feel.

    But, I will say, though.. If these changes bring build variety, then it's surely a good thing.

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  6. I haven't watched the live testing, but is there a build that looks viable around the venthyr ability? For Fury or Arms, if you took sudden death and Massacre that would allow you to use Condemn more often?

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  7. its funny to me that in a expansion that is focused about unpruning and bringing the class back they dont give warrior defensive stance back as a baseline ability

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  8. THE TALLENT SYSTEM IS STILL BAD !!! WE NEED OVERALL A GAMEPLAY LIKE IN CATA OR MOP TALLENTS+ROTATIONS AND DONT MAKE GLOBAL COOLDOWNS IN PLS BRING A FILLER LIKE HEROICSTRIKE OR HARMSTRING OFF THE GCD ATM I DONT WANNA PLAY SHADOWLANDS ITS NOT GOOD TO BE HONEST!! AND LEGION WAS BAD ASWELL AS DRAENOR AND BFA IS ALSO REALY BAD!

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