I agree with all the vids this week so far. But your down play of boomies is gross. They are deff on same level as fire mage. Off healz,cyclone, spread pressure (convoke can drop a whole team) roots ect ect. I play rshammy, and i dont like seeing either.
Cdews team was watching boomie so hard that the mage scored a kill. thats how much pressure a boomie brings. I think aff lock can go up to A as well. And i think a well played MM can also content with A tier.
Mages and boomies should deff sit atop thou. And spriest not far behind.
Forum babies made MM hunter feel wack now. Compared to like a Fire Mage they had comparable burst, but MM doesn't have the control of FM and nowhere near the defensive capability aside from a high CD turtle
Putting boomie before Shadow sure ain't being bias towards boomie. Boomie is great for sure, but better than Shadow? Not many would agree with that.
Fire being only S Tier is obvious as it's so much better than anything else (like sub was in start of SL). Kinda like in healers Holy Pala is only S tier.
Triune ward needs to go. Their damage is insane but triune Ward transforms fire mage from a glass cannon to an unkillable god class that simultaneously has the best caster survivability, best cc/control AND the highest burst. It’s stupid AF.
Nerf every caster so meelees can zug zug freely 🙂 If any melee has uptime on you you die in 2 seconds, their burst windows are ~ 20 seconds . The state of melee has brought the state of casters, when you are unable to cast of course instant casts will be meta. You are crying about a class that literally everything it does is purgable, there are 5 thousand ways to stop it by using 1 defensive. While being one of the hardest classes in the game. Mage is a strong class yes. Buffing other classes is the correct way to solve this, we want classes to feel strong. This is how you bring mist of pandaria back, not by nerfing anything that feels good.
Personally I can't stand playing a fire mage, leveled mine up and geared it a bit but arenas just feel awful on it.. I was always the target of the zug-zug melee cleaves that left me unable to cast anything and were just dpsing me for like 70% of combust's potential non stop, basically one shotting all 3 shields every time I used blazing barrier. Combustion is also the easiest spell in game to counter with half the classes being able to just instantly dispel it and then you are useless until it pops back up. Definitely the hardest spec I've ever played and yeah I'm not a glad so respect to people that make it work, it's a completely different game than being a melee monkey.
Honestly the only thing keep SHadow priests from being top TR is the fact that 1 interupt is basically a FULL cc without DR. And pretty much the same thing happens with warlocks i suppose. Interupt hurts them WAYYY too much. While it's not the case for mage.. even if u interupt arcane or fire or frost, he can do something else. For those classes its just Shadow and nothing else.
How is mage damage guaranteed? Just silence/cc or steal that shit? And after that, the sustained damage outside of combustion is not that good.. destruction warlocks eat them after combustion. / and you are talking about predictable damage. fier mages literly starts to burn during combustion. Nice vid but I don't agree
Hey Supatease, great job casting as always. Been playing hunter since Vanilla (only class I play really). Watching the jungle team just get shut down by the other team just constantly killing the hunters pet. Then watching the hunter have to turtle to get a rez on his pet just made me cry. Do you think changing pet rez from 2 sec to 4 sec was correct?
I was hoping for mm to make it this expac but they havent really recovered. It seems blizzard just didnt want a more telegraphed version of where fire mage is currently.
I watched this awesome video and was wondering can you make a video on which classes and specs do you believe will have the biggest benefits from gaining the ability to use 2 legendaries in PVP? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81bd3gTl5DY
frost is only c tier when comparing it to fire. if you compare it to all other specs in the game its A tier simply because it can play RMX. Affliction should be C tier. MM is better. better dmg. actual kill potential. cant be interrupted. better defensively because of feign legendary.
How would y'all feel about class bans for the tourny like they do In owl? Just a question idk if I'm for it against but just think about it for a second ik this means teams would be based around multicasting but then we can push for tourny realm ques
Funny how god comp is literally god comp now lol … Honestly I'm cool with this with maybe some minor tweaks just kinda want to buff everything else lol
Your content rocks! I appreciate all that you do.
Heal tier inc?!
When does the arena finish?
Nerf MM more pls
I agree with all the vids this week so far. But your down play of boomies is gross. They are deff on same level as fire mage. Off healz,cyclone, spread pressure (convoke can drop a whole team) roots ect ect. I play rshammy, and i dont like seeing either.
Cdews team was watching boomie so hard that the mage scored a kill. thats how much pressure a boomie brings. I think aff lock can go up to A as well. And i think a well played MM can also content with A tier.
Mages and boomies should deff sit atop thou. And spriest not far behind.
Your commentary is insane
The feral destro team did win two games against OTK though, not that it changes much
Forum babies made MM hunter feel wack now. Compared to like a Fire Mage they had comparable burst, but MM doesn't have the control of FM and nowhere near the defensive capability aside from a high CD turtle
Ugh. Hate YT lately. An ad. Every. Two. Minutes. Great video though
God morning, good afternoon, and good evening. It makes us all happy to hear it cause we know we get another Supa vid
Great analysis bro. Love your content 🙂
"I like consistency" " convoke will pulls off more Kills " 🙂
Putting boomie before Shadow sure ain't being bias towards boomie. Boomie is great for sure, but better than Shadow? Not many would agree with that.
Fire being only S Tier is obvious as it's so much better than anything else (like sub was in start of SL). Kinda like in healers Holy Pala is only S tier.
Man i felt bad for Nozom on his Destro. Bolts do literally nothing for the effort it take to get one off lol.
Nerf nerf nerf
very insightful, thanks supa!
awesome job at everything you do. AWESOME
So basically just play broken fire mage
Both melee and caster lists has been spot on for what ive been "whining" about. Guess I didnt need to "stfu and git gud" since it was 100% correct 😀
Still they need to be careful with the fire nerf! Some classes has almost the same burst with lots of sustained damage as well!
Triune ward needs to go. Their damage is insane but triune Ward transforms fire mage from a glass cannon to an unkillable god class that simultaneously has the best caster survivability, best cc/control AND the highest burst. It’s stupid AF.
Id love a RBG list like this
Nerf every caster so meelees can zug zug freely 🙂
If any melee has uptime on you you die in 2 seconds, their burst windows are ~ 20 seconds .
The state of melee has brought the state of casters, when you are unable to cast of course instant casts will be meta.
You are crying about a class that literally everything it does is purgable, there are 5 thousand ways to stop it by using 1 defensive. While being one of the hardest classes in the game.
Mage is a strong class yes. Buffing other classes is the correct way to solve this, we want classes to feel strong.
This is how you bring mist of pandaria back, not by nerfing anything that feels good.
Nerf Demon Hunters!
Personally I can't stand playing a fire mage, leveled mine up and geared it a bit but arenas just feel awful on it.. I was always the target of the zug-zug melee cleaves that left me unable to cast anything and were just dpsing me for like 70% of combust's potential non stop, basically one shotting all 3 shields every time I used blazing barrier. Combustion is also the easiest spell in game to counter with half the classes being able to just instantly dispel it and then you are useless until it pops back up. Definitely the hardest spec I've ever played and yeah I'm not a glad so respect to people that make it work, it's a completely different game than being a melee monkey.
i think if fire mages just couldnt reset the cd on combust, it would be more balanced. like every 1-1,5min combust is too much.
Honestly the only thing keep SHadow priests from being top TR is the fact that 1 interupt is basically a FULL cc without DR.
And pretty much the same thing happens with warlocks i suppose.
Interupt hurts them WAYYY too much.
While it's not the case for mage.. even if u interupt arcane or fire or frost, he can do something else.
For those classes its just Shadow and nothing else.
Do u have a talent build for boomy ?
How is mage damage guaranteed? Just silence/cc or steal that shit? And after that, the sustained damage outside of combustion is not that good.. destruction warlocks eat them after combustion.
/ and you are talking about predictable damage. fier mages literly starts to burn during combustion. Nice vid but I don't agree
Okay but after that inevitable fire mage and holy paladin nerf, afflock and shadowplay is going to be so good :')
Hey Supatease, great job casting as always. Been playing hunter since Vanilla (only class I play really). Watching the jungle team just get shut down by the other team just constantly killing the hunters pet. Then watching the hunter have to turtle to get a rez on his pet just made me cry. Do you think changing pet rez from 2 sec to 4 sec was correct?
great job, quick question though….dont you think the game needs pure dps specs being strong, especially ones without any type of real healing
Fire Mage
Can't wait for the healer tier list where he explains that I should have rolled hpal instead of rsham :'^
I was hoping for mm to make it this expac but they havent really recovered. It seems blizzard just didnt want a more telegraphed version of where fire mage is currently.
I watched this awesome video and was wondering can you make a video on which classes and specs do you believe will have the biggest benefits from gaining the ability to use 2 legendaries in PVP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81bd3gTl5DY
frost is only c tier when comparing it to fire. if you compare it to all other specs in the game its A tier simply because it can play RMX. Affliction should be C tier. MM is better. better dmg. actual kill potential. cant be interrupted. better defensively because of feign legendary.
Prediction for Healer Vid: S+: Holy Pally, S: Ret Paladin, A: Shaman, B: Disc, C: None, D: Druid, Holy Priest, Monk
Fuck. Fire. Mages.
That is all. ❤️
How would y'all feel about class bans for the tourny like they do In owl? Just a question idk if I'm for it against but just think about it for a second ik this means teams would be based around multicasting but then we can push for tourny realm ques
BIG AIMED SHOT
4K Crit
Funny how god comp is literally god comp now lol … Honestly I'm cool with this with maybe some minor tweaks just kinda want to buff everything else lol
Sad…Just sad
S is for shadow???????
Best commentator by far
Pretty much agree 100% with this list.