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Depends on how you define: grinding. I like that say… __ amount of honor will buy a mythic+3 gear, and it scales up to say… +10, and that's the cap. Past that you have to get your conquest gear. So it depends if its like the pearls from waterworld, then yeah. The grind is going to be dick. But if its a scalable grind and over the course of time you could gear either +10 mythics, or Bg's. Then I think it'll be good.
The fact that you have to pve to pvp is the most bizarre thing.
So it is set in stone? Will us PVPers be FORCED to do pve to gear up?
This game is a fucking joke. Nerfing enhancement when its already bottom of the barrel with no defensives, and the whole pvp gear debacle.
HATE pve period. BFA ruined pvp. It's such a disaster that I barely want to play the game anymore and blizzard doesn't listen. I don't know what to do. I am on the brink of giving the game up completely and as someone who has played since 2006 that is a hard thing to say.
Why can’t they just make the gear the exact same for pvp and pve? If you like to pvp you can get max item lvl from pvping. If you like pve you can get max item lvl from pveing. It’s not that difficult to figure out.
PvP and PvE should be completely separate.
If you don’t want to pve for pvp gear you may as well give up MMOs now, because that is every MMO at this point and WoW has BEEN taking ideas from other MMOs. Adapt or get over it
Feel like PVP is just a thing to do for "fun" now and they want to focus players on the game content but after running the same dungeons over and over its boring to me. They should have a specific gear rating for PVP gear that allows to to hit on players more effectively and PVE should have the same on NPC's.
Beep. Boop. Bop. Why. Do. You. Talk. Like. A. Robot. Every. Word. Sounds. Like. You. Just. Finished. A. Sentence.
Other than that very informative video, just hard to follow at times
After so many failed expansions and watching the development for about a month now i can only come to one conclusion: They still don't get it!
I already bought shadowlands but i'm thinking of not even playing it tbh. They will NEVER learn!
Hey guys! For my self i can only say im definetly NOT going to do PvE so i can enjoy PvP, BFA was waaaay enoughf for me in that matter. I seriously cannot understand the… cant say it with an other word IMBECILE decision by Blizzard end to make it like this. Seriously…. i have to farm M+ to gear up again?! So i can do PVP? Blizz learned nothing from the WORST expension ever made? I think its time for me to stop this nonsens. The decisions Blizzard made in the last fhew years i cannot support anymore. If Blizz dont change atlest this im not going to buy this nor any other expansions… LET US do proper gearing with PvP FOR PVP and not ofc with double time consuming like if we would do it with PvE. I was hopeing after Blizz made a pvp trinket set bonus so raiders and M+ dont have the upper hand in PVP , Blizz will bring back normal PvP gearing. It seems Blizz are off track again exspecialy since BFA in this matter… well now that i think of it actualy Blizz are off track with almost everything nowdays. I wish you good luck guys in SL! You will need it ^^
i like do pvp content to gear pvp, like old times with vendor !
i hate wow pve, i only play for arena…
they just need to bring back the old vendors
I want to get pvp gear from pvp. And that’s that. I don’t wanna raid to preform in pvp. That’s just me tho, I liked the old system.
So they fucked the gearing and kept it the same as bfa.. well, haha. I was actually levelling but fuck this lol. Why would I do pve to get pvp gear lol. Always have to ruin the game ffs
No, I hate being FORCED to Pve just to Pvp. I do LIKE to do PvE, but not forced to do so and do not like the fact that PVE gear is BETTER for PvP than actual PvP gear… Ass backwards shit right there. Bring back resilience in my opinion. That way, Mythic Raiders aren't pwning Gladiator PvP'ers just because their PvE gear is better for pvp than actual pvp gear. PvP'ers with PvP gear demolish straight PvE'rs like it should be. And give us more stats options on the pvp gear so we do not have to go raid we can buy what we need from a PvP vendor. This is what I want – I may be alone in this but oh well. I liked the resilience system.
Hate doing PVE to get high enough gear level to do good in rated! I didn’t mind having 2 sets of gear in my bag back in the day. They should have pvp gear and pve gear separate. I don’t mind managing the different stats for pve or pvp situations.
Wtf, pve ist the most boring shit in the Game. Why i am forced to play Pve, when i dont want to…
The state of PVP TLDR: its fucked stay away
Ok hear me out…. What IF….you had to do PVP to get PVP gear so you could PVP?
Everywhere i look (forums, youtube videos, guild, etc) everyone hates PVE for PVP gear sistem, yet some claim that the majority of people want it this way, where is that majority? and how do they know what they want if i can't find them in forums or in youtube, reddit, etc? From what iv'e seen most of us hate to be forced to PVE for PVP, i love PVE don't get me wrong but i don't see the point in forcing it on players that donsen't enjoy it.
Hello where are you guys you haven’t posted anything in days 🤔🤔
Last season I got my decent gear just 2 weeks before end so I hope for some good changes in bfa I get frustrated by gearing process and I quit a few times 😂😂
Bring back BGS, doing mythics to gear for PVP is just stupid….
pvpers screwed over again 3rd expansion in a row. why can't they treat both pvp/pve as separate games within wow .so PvP can have fair gearing systems in the name of balance
Its a simple… JUST BRING RESILIENCE BACK!!! and all be fine
Earn low ilvl items from BGs that scale up to mythic raid ilvl as soon as you engage in pvp combat gg.
Given that I came back to play PvP and not PvE, no I do not want to gear in PvE and that may be what bars me from subbing to the game again.
RIP BG's
NO i dont want to PVE for gear to do PVP especially on alt characters like wouldnt it be fun to be able to gear your alts entirely through pvp instead of grinding through repetitive M+ for the millionth time.
Having to PVE for PVP gear is the reason I quit
Let the PvE players HAVE TO play PvP in order to be competitive in Raids?
oh for fucks sake, I already was glad that we got pvp specific gear and now that change is basically worthless because you get way faster geared up through pve…that reminds me of the time before legion when they praised their new feature of "changing your spec super quickly without having to go to the class-teacher"….yeah, sure you could change your spec with one click but then you had to farm gear for it for weeks…