The Final Raid of War Within… I'm Actually Very Excited



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Like with Dragonflight, some silly goofs on Blizzard’s end MAY have spoiled 11.2’s raid – so let’s dig into what happened and what it means.
The fall of K’aresh: https://youtu.be/gyCLY33cEQs

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32 thoughts on “The Final Raid of War Within… I'm Actually Very Excited”

  1. Theory: Xal'atath, or at least her current host, is the final boss for this raid. Alleria sacrifices herself to try and kill her, but instead of a permanent defeat, Xal's true void self just takes on Alleria's corpse as her new form and uses it to begin the Void invasion of Azeroth.

    "At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming."

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  2. Argus being a patch was such an incredible disappointment. It deserved to be an expansion. Wild how we defeated the burning legion in one expansion considering how they r THE wow threat. Kuresh however would make a great patch zone. Its mostly destroyed etc.

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  3. I'm thinking either way the Ethereals will be involved either in War Within, Midnight, and potentially even Last Titan. Leaning the most on it being Midnight but absolutely down for K'aresh in War Within too!

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  4. Wow pve is terrible most of the player base just does low m+ keys and lfr those doing the heroic raids do them to sell runs for gold I tell everyone i can dont play retail wow for the pve its bad.

    if wow didnt have the good pvp it has i would not be playing it there are other mmos with better pve then wow.

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  5. If this is the Karesh theory, I'm a bit disappointed – I was hoping that'd be the capstone of Midnight, that a portal to Karesh would be opened at the Sunwell and we'd spend the last patch on Karesh like we did Argus

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  6. Ditto on hoping they change the naming practices. MoP would've been a fantastic story experience if they hadn't announced Garrosh as the final raid boss before the expansion even launched. It turned all the mystery and at the time unprecedented possibility into a mild game of spot the foreshadowing. Ditto here; I'd like to be surprised when they announce the final patch, and get to spend the expansion speculating on what it could be up until that point, instead of "all this stuff supports that datamining from a year ago".

    Leaks kinda ruin the speculation fun in the game. And a lot of the time it turns what should have been fun story into what feels like a much longer cycle between story beats because we already know or strongly suspect months ahead of when we're supposed to where things are going. It's like being told the general outline of a story while it's still being written, but we still have to wait for it to finish being written before we can see the next thing – meaning we're in a perpetual cycle of seeing the half-finished story while we're playing through the finished story of stuff we already knew about a patch cycle ago.

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  8. It would make sense IF they wanted to make Ethereals playable to do it in the void expansion by making those from fallen worlds aid us in trying to prevent it from happening again. If that's not the case I can't see it happening ever which is kinda sad, but understandable given they're just voidy bandages.

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  9. Do I believe we're going to K'aresh for a raid this expansion? Not for a second. Do I think we're getting an Ethereal heavy void raid as the end of the expansion? That I absolutely believe. Are we going to K'aresh in this Saga? Of course we are. Probably in Midnight. You think we have a giant Naaru ship we aren't gonna fuck with? You think we're going to another planet in an expansion called the war *within*?

    Nah. The Emerald Dream stuff had way more info about when it would be in the expansions patch cycle and showed icons for things we would actually see, not just trinkets. K'aresh is probably the last patch of Midnight

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  10. I'm sorry. I tried to get through this. But I couldn't. II didn't expect I'd reach apathy with WoW, but I have. I don't care anymore. They ruined too much, and I don't care at all about their cosmic world jumping shenanigans. Best of luck with it.

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  11. Bellular, I had a question as I went to sleep last night. Does covering WoW and its future/lore/details ruin it for you as a player at all?

    Part of the fun for me is not looking at patch notes, or anything really, ever. I just let the game excite me and surprise me as I used to feel as 13 year old playing Vanilla way back when.

    I was wondering if the magic has disappeared for you by covering it full time?

    Thanks for your reply – if indeed, you do.

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  12. Zones, characters, story, none of it matters to grow WoW. People dont come back for lore or zones that they were intrested in in the past, and they will most definetly wont attract new players.

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  13. I mean it sort of makes sense open a gateway to Kareesh and let through the void forces their into our world.
    I am wondering if Goblin setup might just be a mega dungeon since they do them every xpack now.
    I think a really cool plot point would be that old gods and their blood is the way dimensius can take physical form on Azeroth.

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  14. I think that the last raid will definitely be the big crystal in Hallowfall, Beledar. I don't think it makes sense to create such an impressive structure to just have it as a questing prop for the leveling part.

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  15. Since the ethereals are going to be more involved in the plot, I would like Ve'nari to return. And frankly, I hope there aren't just three raids. They make less and less content and yet the price of expansions keeps going up.

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