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Maybe LOA are the equivilant to Wild Gods, from the LIFE lands….
"As the Archon perishes, all life in the zone is wiped out!".
Why is Voljin lol
That's what throws me off. The wild gods are of life not death so why do they return to Ardenweild between life cycles and how was Ursoc able to permanently die in Ardenwield if entities can only truly die in their natural realm? Then again what are the wild gods natural realm? On the cosmo chart it lists wild gods under life but they were created on Azeroth by a titan from the realm of order Freya using nature magic. As for what are the Loa, the wowpedia page states Loa is just a name givin by trolls to any being they worship such as different wild gods and other spirits of power.
So the old gods are still alive since we just killed their manifestations on azeroth and not their true form in their true place of origin.
If the Winter Queen "loathes" the loa, why did she take them in to nurture them? Vol'jin, Hireek, Shadra, and the other one I forget.
P.S. The other was Ashamane.
Hmmmm, I think that the Loa are just like Wild Gods (maybe another "political party" or something). Wild Gods are also creatures of life that are just using Ardenweald for rebirth (I don't know why) and it's entirely possible for a Wild God to be a former mortal (Ysera is treated like a Wild God in the Shadowlands and she used to be a mortal). Now, why Wild Gods and Loa don't go back to the Gardens of Life (confirmed name of the plane of life) to be reborn? I don't know. Maybe it's a result of some sort of a deal that life made with death ages ago, maybe even the First Ones also "ordered" Gardens?
We didnt kill Hakkar in the Shadowlands. We slip through a little portal that was close to some atalai troll temples
The first ones are the titans, thats why the ancient staue reacted to us and us alone because of the heart of azeroth, the jailer is one of the eternal ones and this "titan++" is just a way of saying that his army + anima makes him stronger than one titan. (which is totally possible, i mean we beat nearly the entire pantheon in one raid…they arent unbeatable)
Take a look at argus's weapon, the preorder transmog and the design of oribos, maybe its not build by argus but at least there is a connection. Nothing makes sense if i ask myself what broke the arbiter, not the sword nor xavius. I dont even think it was a soul at all! In one interview they said that if a titan dies he goes back to his realm, so in that case it cant be argus. BUT – I think it was argus, but not his soul or his body. It was the fact that ARgus died. If the titans are the first ones, then argus was supposed to control the shadowlands, but after sargerus trapped him, they had to make a substitution for him, the arbiter is that substitution. But after argus died, this connection got lost and the arbiter literally SHUT DOWN. There are no void – first ones, no light – first ones, no life – first ones….
Maybe some ideas to make this story not so complicated as all the theorys do.
•Elune (uncontrolable) is the sister of the Winter Queen (calm) like some sort of metapher for nature
•The Jailer got thrown in the maw because they needed a powersource or some kind of receiver (the ball in the arbiters chest) he was betrayed.
•All of the nzoth and illgenoth new whispers never fitted perfectly for battle for azeroth, just look at them now, it will blow your mind. For example – The cunning ones and 6 masters but only serving one????? Brokers???
Bwonsamdi looks like a troll and has the jamaican accent just like the darkspear
Accolon : Bwonsamdi is not a troll
Bwonsamdi is one of the very OG trolls.
OK The Loa may be a "dream"/ feeling / idea. come to life. It noted that some have no shape. They draw power from worship. and they are real hard to kill. The one that are dead are push up to the power or fake. Even when a Loa tries to kill them self. They still are alive. They are also very active to hand out power and punishment.
maybe they are rather neutral, a matter of reign ? and winter queen won't like them cuz they are half life half death ? or maybe most loa are seen as "sargeras" of the titans ?
Okay, if Hakkar is going to return, because he didn't die in in his plane, then why Rezan needed to store his essence in Vol'jin in the maw instead of just dying in the maw to be reborn in his plane?
First, I do think that Hakkar is not in the Shadowlands when we kill him. I think in the dungeon when we go through doorways we're going in and out of other realms. But still there is something about the Winterqueen and the Loa that is weird. I think there's a bigger question to be poked in this topic: If the Loa operate outside the Ardenweald's cycle and against the behest of the Winterqueen, WHY?
If the Loa are not natural to the Shadowlands nor have they always belonged to the Wild God cycle then I question why the Winterqueen merely has a passive distain? Why does the shadowlands not treat them like invaders? Maybe they actually are part of the shadowlands and the problem the Winterqueen has is a private issue and not a cosmic one (thus debunking the theory).
But back to the theory The quote "The light has made a pact with the enemy of all." may not be applicable directly but what if their not the only ones. If they are from another realm they would have made a deal. I would have to propose that the Winterqueen or someone more powerful then her (The Jailer, or the First Ones) would have had to set up this relationship with the Loa and Ardenweald. If the Jailer originally used the Loa as agents that would explain Mueh'zala's loyalty and the Winterqueens resentment.
It feels like the loa and the dragon aspects are similar, just of different origins. The dragon aspects were crafted, modified, "ordered" by the Titans of Order to fit a more suitable role for their ends; the loa are born, die, and reborn by Life and its Titans.
@Accolonn Vol'jin is going to take over for Bwonsamdi, it seems that the Loa need an anchor in the Shadowlands (afterlife)i The troll race is older than the NE race so that might explain some of the customs and traditions as well as pre-history.
The shadowlands isn’t a realm of death, it’s a realm of life (an unnatural extension to life instead of true death). Also I don’t think Steve’s comment necessarily suggests there is a realm for each cosmic force
What if Bwomsamdi is trolling us and he was actually a troll?
Aren't the Loas and Wild Gods related?
are the loa the back door?
I think it's quite possible Mueh'zala was the first Loa if we go into it from the perspective that he was the first powerful spirit recognized by Proto-Trolls, but if we go with the classification of a Wild God which many Loa have always been considered to be(with few exceptions), probably not, as Loa has always been treated as a vague term by Trolls, given to exceptionally powerful beings, or at least how it has been handled in the past. Which makes it pretty strange as to why the beings of Ardenweald even differentiate between Wild God and Loa, and even further to treat Loa with disdain compared to Wild Gods.
The issue with Hakkar dying in De Other Side is definitely an odd one, as the instance does seem to give the impression that we're travelling through portals to other locations, some elsewhere in the Shadowlands and some back on Azeroth, but the Zul'gurub shown to us in the instance is rather… Stylized, looking more like some sort of Afterlife spin on the city.
The dev quote of creatures returning to the realm in which they're associated with just doesn't seem right to be and bugs me greatly, I get it, that demons return to the Twisting Nether, beings of light return to the light, void to the void, etc.. But if that is the case, why do creatures of life, go to the Shadowlands upon death?
This whole thing is just a mind fuck. Ardenweald seems like a realm of life, Bastion a Realm of Order, Ravendreath a realm of Disorder, and Maldraxxus a realm of death. Then you have Light and The void missing, yet Zovaal is extremely interested in the light, and some were speculating that he and The Arbiter were one in the same originally, xalatath (may be misspelling that) mentions the whole “we view the denizens of light as brothers & sisters who have lost their way “ meaning they are essentially one in the same, if you’re seeing where I’m going with this.
This whole situation just smells of sus bro. Extremely suspicious. Shits about to get while though, I can feel it in my bones…though that may just be my extreme arthritis acting up kekW.
Oh, I think you're wrong. Bwon'samdi is a troll. Of the internet variety. 😛
Trust me. We can spot our own.
Bwonsambdi could be part of a precursor race that look like trolls but are not trolls. Bwonsambdi and Voljin are going to be good loa friends since both were former mortals. I really wonder if Voljin will retain his troll form as a Loa or a T-Rex form like Rezan. I think Muehzala liked Bwonsambdi to the point that he was willing to spare his life despite his defiance for protecting the troll souls from entering the Maw when the machine of death broke.
Perhaps Bwomsandi is trolling by saying he's not a troll?
I done care if they are friend or foe, my troll (first ever character I created) Zakabu, will always be loyal to the loa. Especially Bwonsamdi.
I haven't had time to watch all your videos, so I don't know if you touch on this or not, but in one video you suggested that the voidlords were responsible for tearing the Maw apart. In De other Side, we see a similar effect at the dealer boss is the Ardenweld section. You have Ve'nari hiding out in the Maw, knowing she's not welcome there, yet completely comfortable being there, unlike many other souls. I wonder if it wasn't some of the Brokers that made the Maw that way.
Well are they FRIENDS or ENEMIES ??? atleast that needed answer
The winter queen is not a good example, she seens to like anybody and looking down to everyone.
Interesting… in the same logic, Ursoc was a Wild God that was killed twice, once in the mortal world, then in the "dream of life".
If he was either a mortal being or a creature of life, shouldn't he also have died his final death when he was killed in one of these dimensions?