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In the Grimmoire of The Shadowlands, there’s a tale about the 2 forces of origin. In the Chronicles there’s a similar story about how the cosmological forces came to be.
Are the books talking about the same thing? And what does it mean for the creation of World of Warcraft’s sleeping titan Azeroth?
Is there something we’ve missed or is Azeroth’s secret explained in the books?
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Love that we have speculation videos back agian, been enjoying all your new speculation videos so far, have missed them 🙂
so something interesting and I just thought about it at the point of the video when you said about sargeras's sword. we don't know how titans reproduce. could it be a mingling of titanic energy that produces a new titan or something else entirely
I feel that Azeroth/reality is the 7th because of being a mixture/middle point of the 6 others colliding. Kinda making her the sigma of the sigmas xD
I think your earlier video was probably correct or at least should be. We never really saw the realm of death. What we saw was a restructuring after it was taken over. I think the real "Death" gods were weakened and imprisoned in thorghast and that is who the jailer was really watching over. Now that the jailer is defeated he/she or they will escape and we will have another force on the playing field. I think what we see in game is a team up from light, life and order. Because at no time in all of wow has anything from the void made its way to reality really (not to mention void only seems to make life in its path but thats a different idea), Fel/Chaos has no known deity at all the just use the energy to empower and corrupt and shadowlands showed us deaths influence over Azeroth is questionable at best.
Great theory! I offer another one in return: Our 7th force is Azeroth. She is the center of our universe as seen in both titan and brokers cosmological charts. But I think Zooval as warning us of a different enemy. In the begining there were two forces, the one that created the 6, aka Azeroth / Reality, and the other that was expeled /pushed back from our Universe. The true enemy is the force outside of the 6 or 7. And it isn't the void. It's something far worse.
Don’t forget The Primus – the named First One. The one we see in SLs might be a fractal of him/her/it working within the pattern and I still think we’ll meet that character again.
The sword of Sargeras is piercing N’Zoth, I’m sure of it.
This is fun!
After everything that's happened, Azeroth has aspects and beings and has been touched, directly or indirectly, by all of the cosmic elements, so it makes sense that they would all influence her.
I really like the idea of Sargaras being in love with Azeroth. We already know he's a kinky boy who will experiment with different cosmic forces. Then he saw her face, and he was a believer. He couldn't help but stick his sword in. Innuendo aside, If he recognized the cosmic powers were in balance within her, It could explain why conquest of Azeroth was so important to the Legion.
I know we factory reset the jailer and all but I don't think he's done quite yet.
Nice, another great lore video. 🙂
I always found it funny that Demons are in the Chaos section of the cosmic diagram. Heres why. If the Titans were made to combat Chaos, that may mean the Demons were insanely unorganized and well…. Chaotic. Wouldnt The corruption of Sargeras be in a sense, Order brought to Chaos? They formed an army. War ships. Etc. they had plans of attack. They had invasions on strategic locations. Is this not Order? An extreme form of it, sure. Kind of how the Naaru become void. Order becomes chaos. And chaos, order.
I still think that the 7th force is simply "Reality"/Existence. A dreaming Azeroth allows for existence. The 6 (and lesser forces) bring about Reality and Reality contain and reinforce the 6.
Think of human reproduction. 2 forces become 1. They divide and subdivide and specialize and connect. This combination grows ever complex until IT becomes a being. BUT not just a being. A being with a perspective, an intelligence and an imagination (Reality). Azeroth sleeps (containment by the 6) and in that sleep has a perspective. That perspective is just our Reality.
And the nomenclature of Titan is used for Azeroth because they have no bigger word.
I think Elaine whispers because she is a void lord. The dark spacey stars around her face in the Tyrande cutscene with the winter queen looks AWFULLY voidy. The void gems on the void elf heritage armor looks literally identical.
Edit: Uhhhh, Y'sera died and went where? The SLs… Deathwing? Must have gone to the twisting nether or we destroyed his soul and all…
GALAKROND?????????????
TORGHAST?????????
In WOtLK the Jailer/Arthas was trying to resurrect Galakrond from his bones in Dragonblight. Was this to help him break free of the chains in torghast? Is Galakrond what caused so much destruction in Korthia and corrupted the original Arbiter, the Jailer?
Perhaps Azeroth couldn't be tamed because Azeroth is the 7th Force or the Spirt inside the planet to be one. Ether a First One or the 7th Force. May be more reasonable to to Aim why every Cosmological Force wants it in there Will or Destruction. Own the 7th Force or Kill it and everything can fall in a plan. As for Denathrius I don't believe he's a chaos lord of sorts. His Origin Story was Established by the Oracle of Zereth Mortis. As Denathrius Winter Queen and the rest was created from there to being the Eternal ones of there Repective Realms to carry on the Design the First one wanted from the Cycles. But Denathrius was the Unique one that looked far beyond the Void beyond the Cosmos and chooses to do and serve something else…. I'm more then sure he will come back just not sure whom he's bringing with him.
The 5 torches could be the dragon flights
Hey Accolonn, I love watch your theories for a long time, and I'd love to see what you think about Elune. Moon waifu always seemed not match to any of the Pantheons, but she was associated with every cosmic power. Her healing light is just a silver version of the Holy Light, the Night Warrior strongly resembles the powers of the Void. She can even give her follower vision of the future. Elune literally created Naru, (light/void creation) as is believed by the wisest mage of azeroth and the greatest prophet of light in the entire cosmos. Winter Queen and Eonar are too close to Elune to be a coincidence. It looks like Elune placed her pawns into the two most powerful organizations in the universe. Her relationship with Malorne may have given her access to the Life powers. She is the only known God who has control over Fell by healing Satyr. Gul dan use Temple of elune to create gate for Burning Legion, coincidence? She is inseparably connected with Azeroth aka. the center of the universe and she can even control the freaking Moon. Why does such a powerful unit do almost nothing, or does she have some bigger plan? Maybe you would do some Bellural-like analysis, As you tell maybe she was create by mix all Six powers. I love hearing your amaizing theories abut this mysterious character.
Wasnt the fight against nzoth in an alternate timeline of azeroth when the black empire won or an alternate dimension or something. What if nzoth isnt actually dead.
Am I the only one who plays the old Acco intro before I watch a new video?
What if Azeroth has already been corrupted by the old gods, and we are protecting her for the void lords.
Theory comes from your videos raising a good point. Everyone we stop is attempting to destroy Azeroth (except the old gods).
Also the video that said the shadow Priest weapon, never disagreed with what we were doing.
Meaning Azeroth is the gateway for the voidlords re-entry and we are unaware agents for the void as well.
What if, must be earned by sacrifice is the seed that the winter queen gave Tyranda. Since those souls willingly sacrificed themselves to enrich the seed. Maybe the seed is one of those ardenweald trees.
What if all this is just how first ones make babies? Azeroth and all the complicated cosmology is just two first ones getting it on.
Could the first 2 forces be reallity and dream? And as such the "7th" force be the dream itself? We constantly see that "reallity" is made of those 6 forces, but if the dream is outside reallity, makes sense that all other forces are not related to it in any way. So can Azeroth be the Dream Titan?…And the Emerald Dream be just a fragment of that force…and if the dreamer awakens, can reallity and dream bind or melt or create something that is not a dream and not reallity?! Never thought of this myself untill now, but im sure you can find enough proofs of this to make a speculation video bout it 😉 and we cant die because Azeroth is dreaming us, that is why we do not go the shadowlands! Azeroth's power is outside reality! Damn this is making lots of sense the more i think about it. So did the other forces create the dream or did the dream create the forces? in the end the real question is…does reality create the dream or does the dream create our reality! And She Wants To AWAKEN!
Accolonn i had a question, what if Elune is The titan soul in Azeroth since the titans look at her as a upstart titan/goddess an the leader of Ardenweald looks at her as a sister an forced ysera into Ardenweald… can force or place people into the shadowlands an stand up against the titans an the night elves pray to her an the land it could be on in the same
A rather big headcannon, but what if the titans and the brokers both were wrong? Void is the original second power. That would be in line with the brokers and the titans description of two original powers, but they didn't understand, that it could be parallel universes in the beginning. The void is constantly trying to breach our universe, but is outside, that is why the void lords can't manifest. Still, they are able to get small seeds of their power, be it old gods or the shadow/void magic. Because of this presence in our universe, both the brokers and the titans mistakenly think, that it is part of the universe, hence the six powers. The first ones intended for 5 powers and Azeroth is the regulator of the 5 and maybe be the power source behing keeping the void outside, but since it has been corrupted by the void and the void has always been present to a certain degree in the universe, Azeroth might be able to wield the void herself to a certain degree, thus making the brokers think it is the fractal of the 6, not 5. Because of this adaptation, Azeroth became stronger then everything the titans have ever seen, similar to your theory about why Sargeras became much stronger when he consumed/joind the fel. It woud also explain the beings of Azeroth being capabe of joining any cosmological force, but still be tied to Azeroth. My theory goes a little bit further though. The ocean of light, the titans describe is the predecessor of Azeroth. A being/power, which concentrated all of the 5 powers within itself, but it was overloaded by it and exploded. The first ones then learned from this mistake and decided to make Azeroth as a being that regulates and has acess to all of these powers, but it is not desiged to host the whole powers, merely direct them and if needed be, command them to work in unison. However, because it was corrupted by the void, Zovaal was afraid that the void might actually use her to unite the forces to grant access to the void, instead of keeping it out. That would explain why he wanted to kill her, as she not only could dominate the universe, but could have been corrupted/controlled by the void to prevent the jailer from reshaping the universe. Zovall wanted to become the next Azeroth, that is why he had to kill her, so he could replace her void free.
Azathoth
It's strange with the void when you say they are not trustworthy, because I feel like they've been telling the truth and the future all along. I feel like they are such an immortal force that they simply do not need to lie to get their ways.
I have a theory about azeroth as well… I remember hearing the phrase regarding the 7th fractal. "The 7th seeks to consume the 6" what if azeroth is the embodiment of destruction, her awakening will usher the destruction of all… the world of azeroth is her prison, created by the first ones as heralds of the cosmological forces to keep her dreaming, to keep her asleep. The forces empower her prison and keep it running. Life and death are the engine powering the seals. Order and chaos form the prison. Light and shadow consume and rebirth the universe that was destroyed at her imprisonment. Like all other forces, killing her would only return her to the cycle undoing all that kept her contained. Corrupting the void to break the prison, luring sargeras to stab her, and zoval attempt to take her soul all in a bid to kill her would only serve to free death and destruction of the universe.
I know MCU woke garbage and all, but when I watched The Eternals (yeah, I was curious how garbage it actually was and, if you discount the woke parts, it wasn't that bad) the plot of the movie sounded insanely familiar to me.
That was when I realized, wait a minute, isn't that the same plot of WoW? I mean, Azeroth (as a planet) is definitely going to shatter whenever our titan awakes. Soo… from a mortal perspective, whatever is going on is probably not gonna end well unless we kinda stop it. But that is going to lead to another Jailer moment, isn't it? :/
The WILD speculation of this channel makes me think of an Alex Jones style conspiracy theorist of azeroth.
Just take everything he just said and imagine it in Alex Jones' voice.
I love it for all the wrong reasons.
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If beings of the six forces return to their original force at death. Us returning to Azeroth when we die and not going to the shadowlands ir already foreshadowing that Azeroth could be the seven force or close related to it.
"her song will end" could also be applied to the Arbiter, she is the Voice of the pattern
"She seeks that which must be earned by sacrifice." that would be crazy if that was talking about Azeroth wanted anima…and you get that through death..its the gold standard of currency in Shadowlands…She got her anima…Zovaal's anima. :O
I think this new threat is tied to the devourers. They are the one thing in all the shadowlands that didn't seem to fit in. I dm'd u this a while back too. I believe the devourers are WAY older than we know and given that they seem to open portals from the in-between, what if that is where this 7th power is imprisoned? Loved the video though 🤘 CJ said hi
Why the forces need to fight each other, why this system even exists? Why it is necessary to the primal forces of the universe win ground over one another? Nothing of this makes any sense to me TBH.
WE HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON WITHIN THE FIRST SECOND JUST FOR “SUUUUUUP”
what about an'she ?
Hi! Two things:
-why did elune make night elves immortals? To fight against azeroth's immortal army of chosen ones (us)…
-sargeras's sword hits azeroth near a titan facility… Maybe he aim to destroy something inside the chamber that keeps azeroth asleep. And that's why she is gonna wake up soon.
Elune and Azeroths relationship always fascinated me.
If Elune is a sister identical to the winter queen, then she's too powerful imo.
We know Elune is unreliable with her empowerment to her followers, so what if it isn't her own power she's empowering people with?
Azeroth being the seventh would make sense if Elune is tapping into her power, but can only do so for short periods of time before being overwhelmed by it.
One should really question the presence of Rygelon in Sepulcher and his monologue esp." Through death comes order", maybe he was sent by the pantheon after sargeras revealed his secrets to Illidan and the Pantheon? Maybe the vision sargeras saw that drove him to madness was shown by Zovaal through the dreadlords? And lastly remeber "Death comes for the soul of your world" suggests Azeroth's soul is what Zovaal was after to dominate the 5 other forces. Also I think Azeroth is the fabric and the unified field connecting the other 6 forces and it most definitely is the 7th Force, imo we're the aberration. Also remember the Murazond encounter from End time "Aman'thul what I've seen….". Hope dragonflight brings in some clarity.
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Omg I’ve missed you. Wtf.
I’d really like to hear you speculate on actual life. What we are. Why were here. So on. Forces so on. Lot of parallels to real life, sometimes I just really wonder what we are and what the hell is going on.
The different kinds of devourers are key, they have a leader….
Always interesting, but i doubt there is such a long term, interwined and coherent story arc at Blizzard.
I think they was just a bunch of creative but confused dabblers that are mostly gone now.
I wouldn't expect too much.