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World of Warcraft Dragonflight patch 10.1.5 Fractures in Time is just around the corner and with it the mega dungeon Dawn of the Infinites, time rifts and a series of new quests from Chromie that send players back to important events in Azeroth’s history to maintain the “True Timeline”. These quests involve Arthas, Rexxar, Jaina and more, but there is huge controversy surrounding one in particular with regards to Alexstrasza and events in Warcraft 2. There is datamining that suggests Traders Tender might soon make it onto the cash shop, and lots of new transmog to look at in the PTR. Join us for the Weekly Reset, Taliesin and Evitel’s Wondrous Wisdomshow.
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Blizzard Adjusting and Removing Concerning Chromie Quests From Patch 10.1.5 PTR
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-adjusting-and-removing-concerning-chromie-quests-from-patch-10-1-5-ptr-333521
New Witch Hunter Hats on the Dragonflight Patch 10.1.5 PTR
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-witch-hunter-hats-on-the-dragonflight-patch-10-1-5-ptr-333535
New Deerstalker Caps on the Patch 10.1.5 PTR
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-deerstalker-caps-on-the-patch-10-1-5-ptr-333486
Reins of the Quantum Courser Drops from Patch 10.1.5 Megadungeon – Awards Mounts from the Past
https://www.wowhead.com/news/reins-of-the-quantum-courser-drops-from-patch-10-1-5-megadungeon-awards-mounts-333495
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12:53 Chromie’s Bad Quest
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They could have changed the alexsreaza quest was to help her escape instead of helping keep her there. I don’t want to be forced to be a part of aiding is SA
The same rationale as Alextrasza quest can be used for all of the others where we have to preserve a dark timeline. Blizz should be consistent. Keep them all or remove them all.
Very good points about the Chromie quest!
Ummm what's so wrong with selling tenders? I don't see any issues in a cosmetic product to be sold. It's a company and every company earns money by selling stuff. Grow up.
For the S.A. quest, I understand the removal. It's not because who makes the quest, it's about the, unfortunately very high probability someone who plays the game suffered through such a thing. There is no need for that. War and murder are fine. It's a war and murder game after all.
I'm still in shock that Chromie is a male dragon that choose a female gnome humanoid form. No issues with being female, but GNOME!!!!
Remove the quest. Those shitheels can f off. Also, if you wanted to see actual angry people regarding the tendies, look no further than the Wowhead comments. (It's apparently my fault that Blizzard is a profit seeking company).
I still would have rathered they done the quest and done it right, rather than cave and remove it. MOST of the people complaining about the quest have not read the book and don't understand the story anyway. Alexstrasza with her prime consorts in captivity having their eggs stolen, is debatable whether that's even SA- The nitty gritty is never explained in the book, it's entirely people filling in the blanks however they choose. Also nobody seems to care about any of the male dragons who suffered the same fate.. The whole thing was just a pile of dullards with no context getting angry.
The quest should have been handled better and more tastefully, but it should not be removed that Lore has been around for years and everybody knows what happened to Alex it is sad, but it is part of what makes her so strong and make sure our hero at the light, and it is her story
enough
Well it's just a story, it's not real, it never happens, doesn't mean anything, it's just fiction, give the user to opt out or skip the story if they really don't want to, so easy
Minor lore hiccup, Alexstrasza's consort for the Dragonmaw was Tyranastrasz, not Korialstrasz. Korialstrasz is Krasus and he sends Rhonin to try and save the Life-Binder during Day of the Dragon. Just being a nerd here. >.>
9:52 What?? Season 2 of Sherlock was great too!
meh. tbh its more of a work around for people to use gold to buy tenders since we will just convert to bnet balance and buy over cap. and thtas 100% fine
Here’s the thing. You can absolutely make a quest line or dialog option that deals with the fact that Alexstrasza was bred against her will. You don’t need to go back in time for that. In fact, I would argue that it should be mentioned, because I was not aware of this piece of context. But having the player actively prevent Alexstrasza from escaping sexual assault is just bad.
I hadn’t heard of the quest where you have to assassinate Amber Kearnen but it sounds really cringe as well. I’ve never quite understood the appeal of making sure bad things happen as the player. If there was an understandable reason for it, it could be narratively satisfying, but the reasons given were almost always just some boring cop-out like “you can’t interfere with the timeways” and it will be chaos if we allow the Infinite Dragonflight to do that. And in general, WoW just doesn’t have the emotional heft to deal with something like killing a beloved character for the greater good, I’m sorry.
Like if we’re doing really historically significant stuff with beloved characters like Thrall then I see the appeal. But I didn’t even like the Opening of the Dark Portal. It didn’t make me feel connected to Medivh. Most of these quests just feel like they’re there to make the player feel important.
17:21 “Being made to feel uncomfortable by being party to uncomfortable events for what someone else assures us is a greater good is a valid topic to explore” I don’t even think I agree with that… I think having to be assured that what you’re doing is for the greater good without really understanding why is just bad storytelling.
For the Alex timeline quest, I am sorry I exist but sick of you lot getting annoyed with a silly joke. People use jokes to deal with messed up things and I feel it is fine. Yes it is not the way you cope, but Chromie goes awkward bad to forced silly back to bad, which makss sense. I read the lines as she is forcing the joke to lighten the mood due to how messed up it is.
Yes they did a very poor job by the sounds of it in all, especially the stupid loudness of Alex grinding her teeth which uncuts the fact she actually angry. Alex is a character that is never angry or violent but at that moment is close to attacking you.
Why did noone get their panties in a bunch when during Legion rogues had to go to opposing faction areas to do assassinations. Is just a game.
The only thing I disagree with Tali & his remarks concerning The Chromie Quest is that a lot of the same people would have been in the same uproar, regardless of the company/entity that wrote the quest.
"Would I be able to see it if I did?" Marvelous.
Honestly until this video I didnt even know there was an Alexstrazsa Video. But seeing the comments it seems there was a bad wording involved. Honestly, I think with the context of the orginal story it would have been easy to do a 'ensure she exscapes' version. When the disk falls to the ground in the books theoretically he shouldnt have had to search for it so long. it would be cool to have a moment where we hold the disk and have to run away from an eye of kilrog or something. Making us feel good about saving the dragon queen and those that know the lore know we saved her from much more horrors like seeing her children being killed in front of her ( and as the lifebinder that was the main reason she didnt run away to begin with)
In the background looks like a very powerful fancy custom PC, where the only component is just Jaina.
I guess the cooling must be pretty good then.
I think it's important to know that the people playing the game may have themselves experienced SA, but they likely haven't experienced getting assassinated or turning into the lich king.
game sucks anyways
FF14/GW2 is pretty fun. Hope this is the last WoW xpack.
15:30 Wasnt it Tyranastrasz and not Korialstrasz?
The prospect of a child Jaina suggests a question I've never really thought about: in the WoW lore, does a character choose their class or are they born into it? Does a mage start out as a child with an affinity for magic? Do druids come from kids who suddenly start shape-shifting in school? Or do they pick their class like they would a profession?
Look at you making a valid point.
So let's wait a while for that quest to be added I guess. I mean I'm not that into lore and if they don't show me stories in the game, I'll never know about them. (have not played stuff before wow either so.)
I seriously cannot believe they actually added that quest in lmfao… like blizzard has been doing the absolute MOST to avoid any topics like this since the lawsuits have come out, and then… they just add this in??? all willy nilly??? like they don't even treat it seriously, they just have chromie joke about it!! like i cant state how much of a shock it is that they even CONSIDERED it as a questline for players to take part in, then they WROTE IT UP like that, then they put the quest into the PTR, then they put the ptr out!!
and the fact that people are even mad at this being deleted from the game tells me that either people have completely forgotten about those god forsaken lawsuits, or they just want to own the libs or whatever. or third option, they're very very into dragon SA. or all three!
the quest with Amber is absolutely stupid and she is literally holding the missive which exposes everything when the player assasinates her. the Alexstrasza quest i'm not even gonna talk about. blizzard loves tormenting the female characters in this game for some reason. and honestly? i'm rooting for the infinite dragonflight.
The argument makes no sense. So playing a quest where SA happens is bad because it's made by Blizzard where real SA happened, and the case is still ongoing, but somehow you're fine with playing games from said company and monetarily supporting them? If it really is such a big deal, then how come everyone complaining about it keep playing wow where real people got assaulted?
Also among the allegations there was people who said Bobby threatened to murder someone. A woman at Activision-Blizzard was also sexually harassed so much that she took her own life, so they are complicit in murder.
Also in regards to the Alexstraza quest, in adatom to what you mentioned in the video, doesn't the fact that WoW has a rating of PEGI 12 anything to do with it being removed? now granted I don't think there are a lot of 12 year olds playing the game in 2023 but might have to do with legal and licensee stuff.
Tali 'aging' but somehow always looking more like a damn snack than before? Definitely a dragon barber's shopping his visage form over time, or a bronze dragon rearranging his own timeline so his looks just keep getting better!
They need to increase the tendies limit to allow us to get more items.
Why am i tearing up to invincible story again?
The Alexstraza quest was the perfect chance to remind players how bad the bad guys can be….sad the overly sensitive people complained about good lore
My problem with the SA quest is, how many people playing have been a victim of war crimes or genocide vs how many have been victims of SA. You are opening wounds for people in a casual game and triggering the trauma on their day off. People arguing to torment real life people so they can have a quest about a woman being *@ped are just sick.
I want them to go through all the lore in the entire WoW universe and get the story sorted out. Clear A to Z of what happened and when, have as much dark stuff as they want and after it's organized put it into the game as an optional Lore mode that you can level characters with or get some cool rewards from. I hate having to watch videos to figure out character backstories or learn about events that happened in the past but are removed from the game yet are still important to the story they are telling now.
I don't get it why there is a problem about buying tenders. Let the people buy it or just don't do it. You can get all the things ingame.
I'm still of the opinion that Nozzy can't see his future because HE has blinded himself because he HAS to become Murozond
Yet you engage and support the Bill Cosby of video game companies.
I really hope we still get a quest with Lo’gosh
You can already buy transmogs in the store , why not just allow tendies to be bought as well as they are mostly used to buy transmogs. In fact, this will make Blizzard more money as now these particular transmogs are more RNG – dependent on when Blizz decides to put the fashion you are interested in getting. Maybe it comes in a few months, maybe longer.
For the consumer though, these denominations (100,150,200…1000) are inherently manipulative. They are designed to lower the barrier to buying. You dont want to spend $15 for that transmog? Here, buy this $4.99 tendies that gives you enough for buying from the trading post and with a little remaining. Furthermore, unlike the $15 one time buy, this denomination follows for the next trading post item you want. Now you need a few more, here is a $7.99 – 500 tendies pack.
Consumer Life Time Value suddenly changes with smaller denominations and longer lifecycle of spend. thereby increasing the value of each subscriber.
How about now? Bli$$ard needs a lot of time to show their face again:).
Trash people are OK with messed up stuff as long as that stuff isn't happening to them. All the comments about the S.A. are definitely those people. They will cry snowflakes and Woke all day till they are the victims of these things which, unfortunately, is unlikely because they are often the perpetrators.
why tf was i unsubbed?????? i woud never do that manually.